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A MEETING TO ORDER.THE MEETING WAS POSTED ACCORDING TO THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT.
THIS IS THE BOARD OPERATION PROCEDURE COMMITTEE MEETING ION IN LANG INDEPENDENT ADMINISTRATION.
SECOND FLOOR CONFERENCE ROOM 4 22, UH, SOUTH CENTER AVENUE, DALLAS 75.
I HEARD THE 17 AT AT 5:30 PM YES, WE MOVE.
AND, UM, DO I NEED TO READ THE GOAL HISTORY, GOALS OR DO EVERYONE, UM, FOR THE MEETING GOALS? GOAL ONE, AND THIS IS GONNA BE AN INTERACTION MEETING.
WE'LL PROVIDE WORLD CLASS TEACHING AND LEARNING EXPERIENCE WHEREBY EACH STUDENT GROWS AND DEVELOP AT LEAST ONE GRADE LEVEL EVERY ACADEMIC YEAR.
GOAL TWO IS WE'LL PROVIDE SAFE AND SECURE LEARNING ENVIRONMENT WHEREBY ALL STUDENTS AND STAFF ARE PHYSICALLY AND EMOTIONALLY SAFE.
GOAL THREE WILL, WE WILL MAINTAIN PHYSICAL INTEGRITY WHILE BEING, WHILE BEING EX EXPRESSIONAL EXCEPTIONAL STEWARDS OF TAXPAYERS DOLLARS FOR GOAL FOUR.
WE WILL ESTABLISH CONFIDENCE AND INTEGRITY WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY THROUGH PARTNERSHIP WHERE WE, WHERE WE DEVELOP A CULTURE AND TRUST THROUGH ACTION.
OKAY, THIS IS A CALL MEETING TO ORDER.
I'LL DO THE ROAD CALL MS. HAMILTON OR PRESIDENT PRESENT.
PERRERA, DO WE HAVE ANY CITIZENS COMMENT? NOT MY KNOWLEDGE.
POLICY REVIEW, WHAT WE WILL COVER, UH, WITH POLICY REVIEW AND OPERATING PROCEDURES REVIEW, WE DO HAVE CLOSED SESSION IF NEEDED.
I HAVE NOT GOTTEN ANY INDICATION FOR CLOSED SESSION, BUT IN CASE WE DO HAVE THAT WHEN WE GET TO EMPLOYMENT OR THE SUPERINTENDENT'S EVALUATION, WE ARE ABLE TO GO INTO CLOSED SESSION TO DISCUSS THAT.
UM, IF THERE WAS GOING TO BE CLOSED SESSION, IS THAT REQUIRED TO BE ON THE, UM, AGENDA BEFORE AND NOT ADDED AFTER? NO, IT COULD BE ANYWHERE IN CLOSED BECAUSE IT'S AN OPTION.
SO A CLOSED SESSION CAN BE COM UM, ADDED AT ANY POINT DURING A MEETING IT CAN BE ADDED.
CLOSED SESSION CAN BE AT THE BEGINNING, BUT THERE COULD BE A REASON.
WE CAN GO IN CLOSED SESSION TWICE BECAUSE IT'S LISTED DON'T HAVE TO BE LISTED TWICE.
SO SAY FOR INSTANCE, WE GOING INTO CLOSED SESSION RIGHT AFTER THE PRESIDENT OR THE CHAIR DO THE ROLL CALL.
THERE MAY BE AN IMMEDIATELY NEED TO GO IN A CLOSED SESSION.
WE CAN DO THAT UNDER THE SAME OPEN, UH, MEETINGS ACT AND OPEN MEETINGS ACT AND CLOSED MEETINGS ACT ARE THE SAME.
AND ACTUALLY, YOU ALL, WHAT I DID, UM, I I DID BRING MY COPY.
I WASN'T GONNA GO OVER ALL OF THAT.
THIS RIGHT HERE, THIS IS THE NEW ONE THAT JUST CAME OUT FROM TEA.
I DON'T THINK MS. WOODFIELD YOU WAS ON THE BOARD.
MATTER OF FACT, I DON'T EVEN KNOW MR. STEVENSON, IF YOU WERE ON THE BOARD AT THE TIME THAT THE STATE OFFERED THIS, IT WAS LAST YEAR.
I TOOK THE, THE, UH, LATEST ONE ONLINE TASK.
THAT'S TOTALLY DIFFERENT THAN THIS.
THIS IS THE OPEN MEETING MEETINGS ACT ALONG WITH THE ELECTION CODE.
IT WAS ACTUAL A FULL THREE DAY WORKSHOP OKAY.
AND, UM, SO, AND THEN AT THE END, SAY FOR INSTANCE, WE GO THROUGH THE WHOLE MEETING FOR PRESIDENT, GO THROUGH THE WHOLE MEETING, AND AT THE END OF THE MEETING IT IS SOMETHING HAPPENED.
OKAY? THERE WAS A PERSONNEL ISSUE OR SOMETHING CAME UP.
WE HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY OF LOCAL CONTROL TO MOVE THAT EXECUTIVE SESSION ANYWHERE DURING THE MEETING.
WE CAN STOP IN THE MIDDLE OF A MEETING, GO THE EXECUTIVE SESSION.
IT ONLY HAS TO BE POSTED ONCE.
SO ITEMS IN EXECUTIVE SESSION, DON'T THEY HAVE TO BE LISTED ON THE AGENDA? THEY ARE.
I HAVE NOT WENT IN XAVI THE SESSION AND THEY WASN'T LISTED.
WELL, FER, I'M INTERJECTED ON, ON THIS QUESTION.
EVERYTHING WILL NOT BE LISTED LIKE IS A ITEM A, B, OR C FOR, SAY WE COME INTO A BOARD MEETING ONE NIGHT.
DR PER PUTS SOMEBODY ON LEAVE TODAY AT 3:00 PM THAT'S NOT GONNA BE ON YOUR AGENDA.
THAT'S, BUT SHE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT SUBJECT MATTER BECAUSE UNDER CLOSED SESSION
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WE READ THESE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODES IN UNDER PERSONNEL REAL ESTATE, YOU KNOW, LEGAL COUNSEL FROM THE ATTORNEY.LONG AS THAT'S PRINTED ON THE AGENDA, YOU CAN TALK ABOUT THINGS UNDER THAT.
IT DOES NOT HAVE TO, EVERYTHING DOES NOT HAVE TO BE LISTED BECAUSE THAT COVER BUT COVERS US BROADLY AS A BOARD TO DISCUSS.
SO THERE'S SOMETHING IN THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT THAT SAYS IF THERE'S A TERMINATION, IT CAN BE COVERED IN, UH, CLOSED SESSION.
THANK, I'M GLAD IT ON PERSONNEL.
I NEED, WHERE CAN I FIND THAT IN HERE? YOU WANNA LOOK THERE WHILE WE GOING? PERSONNEL THING IS UNDER 5 5 1 0.076.
AND IT'LL BE IN THIS BOOK TOO.
AND THESE ARE LISTED ON WHAT EXACTLY DOES YOU WAIT A MINUTE, MR. STEVE.
NOW THIS IS NOT A WORKSHOP OF EDUCATION.
THIS IS A WORKSHOP OF OUR, IF YOU SAY SOMETHING, THIS FACT, BUT WE, I'M ASKING FOR, WELL LET ME JUST SHARE THIS.
CAN WE BRING TO THE BOARD TO HOLD A MEETING? AND WE HAVE, IT HAS TO BE THE MAJORITY VOTE OF THE BOARD TO HAVE A WORKSHOP MEETING FOR CLARITY IF WE DON'T GET IT THROUGH THIS.
BECAUSE ACTUALLY SOME OF YOUR QUESTIONS YOU ASKED AND YOU KNOW, I BROUGHT THIS BOOK AND I SIT THERE ON MY OWN COMPUTER, ALL OF THIS AND PRINTED ALL OF THESE POLICIES OUT.
IT MAY BE COVERED IN ALL OF THIS.
AND IF IT'S NOT, THEN YOU WOULD TAKE NOTES AND WE WILL PUT IT IN THERE BECAUSE WE WANT THE QUESTIONS ASKED.
WE REALLY TO BE PROBLEMATIC OR ANYTHING.
BUT I READ THAT VERY CAREFULLY AND IT SPECIFIES EXACTLY WHICH ITEMS CAN BE COVERED IN SESSION.
ANYTHING ABOUT TERMIN? THAT'S A PERSONALITY.
JUST CAUSE PERSONNEL DON'T MEAN IT CAN BE AN OKAY.
BUT IT'S ALL, HOLD ON, LET ME READ THE INTRODUCTION.
YOU KNOW WHAT, YOU GOT A POINT.
YOU KNOW WHO NEED TO ADDRESS THAT.
IT'S WHO WE PAY TO ADDRESS THAT ISSUE.
SO WE NEED TO SOMEWHERE IN THIS BEFORE THIS IS OVER, WRITE THAT DOWN BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE A WALKOUT WHEN WE WALK OUT MM-HMM.
AND THAT IS WHERE THE ATTORNEY WILL COME BACK AND DEFINE ALL OF THE CODES THAT TAKES US IN EXECUTIVE SESSIONS.
WELL, IF HE TELLS ME SOMETHING THAT AIN'T ON THE PAGE, THAT DOESN'T, THEN IF HE TELLS YOU SOMETHING THAT'S NOT ON THE PAGE, DO WHAT I'M GONNA DO AT THE END OF ALL OF THIS SESSION, IF EVEN INCLUDING ME.
WE GOING TO THE STATE ETHICS BOARD.
IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN DONE WHEN IT COME TO ME.
AND THAT'S WHAT I'M FIXING TO START DOING BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY WAY FOR THE STUFF FOR CLARITY AND UNDERSTANDING.
BUT WE CAN'T CLARIFY ANYTHING THAT'S IN LAW UNLESS THE PERSON ASKING THE QUESTIONS HAVE READ THE LAW AND THEN CHALLENGED THE LAW.
YOU CAN'T CHALLENGE US BECAUSE WE DON'T MAKE THE LAW.
WE ONLY ABIDE BY JUST LIKE YOU, WE ARE EQUAL TO YOU ON THIS BOARD, BOARD, SECRETARY, VICE, AND PRESIDENT.
AIN'T NO BIG EYES AND LITTLE YOUS HERE.
AND I'M A I'M GONNA GET AN ANSWER FOR YOU.
OKAY, SO LET ME READ THIS PART HERE.
I WANT, I WANNA DO AN INTRODUCTIONS, LET THE RECORD SHOW THAT, UM, TRUSTEES CAME IN AT 5 35.
UH, TRUSTEE CLUE CAME IN AT 5 35 AND WE HAVE ALREADY DID THE OPEN AND IT WAS SOME REALLY GOOD QUESTIONS ASKED ABOUT THE OPEN MEETINGS ASKED.
WE GONNA, WE WE MAY COVER IT IN THESE WORKSHOPS.
MAY NOT TAKE, UH, WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO DO IT ALL NIGHT.
SLOW DOWN IF I NEED TO SLOW DOWN.
BUT I HOPE TO COVER EVERY QUESTIONS.
HOPE WE WILL BE ABLE TO GET THROUGH THIS IN THIS ONE MEETING.
AND THERE MAY BE OTHER MEETINGS THAT WOULD, UH, THAT WOULD OR SHOULD TAKE PLACE FOR COMPLETION.
UM, WHO WOULD LIKE TO BE THE PERSONAL, UH, PERSON TO KEEP US ON TRACK WITH OUR POLICY AND UNDERSTANDING? ANY VOLUNTEERS TO KEEP US ON TRACK? THIS YOU GOING, YOU'RE GONNA KEEP US ON TRACK WITH ACCORDING GOT YOU.
MS. WHITFIELD HAS AGREED TO DO THAT.
OUR GOALS IS TO COVER EACH PAGE UNLESS THIS COMMITTEE DECIDES OTHER DECIDES OTHER THAN THERE ARE NO NEEDS TO BE SO DETAILED.
SO WITH SOMEBODY, I'M A DETAILED PERSON.
SOMEBODY THAT JUST FEEL LIKE WE DON'T NEED TO BE REAL DETAILED.
I, I'LL, I'LL, I'LL TAKE THAT BACK.
I FEEL LIKE, FIRST OF ALL, BUT HOLD ON.
I'M ONLY READING THE, THE, THE, I'M ONLY READING THE OPEN DEAL
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TO THIS MEETING.AND THEN IF YOU HAVE CONCERN, THIS IS JUST MY, MY SHEET TO MAKE SURE I COVER EVERYTHING THAT I WANTED TO COVER IN THE INTRODUCTION FOR ME BEING THE CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE.
PLEASE FEEL FREE TO MAKE ANY SUGGESTIONS THAT COMMITTEE MEMBERS MAY FEEL THAT IS IMPORTANT FOR THE BOARD TO UNDERSTAND THE PURPOSE OF OUR MEETING.
OUR GOAL IS TO COMPLETE THE POSTED AGENDA, BOARD OPERATING PROCEDURES.
THE, THE PURPOSE OF THE COMMITTEE IS TO REVIEW AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE BOARD IN AN OPEN SESSION OF REGULAR BOARD MEETING.
SO THE NEXT BOARD MEETING, AFTER WE COMPLETE THIS, ALL OF IT WILL BE BROUGHT TO THE ENTIRE BOARD WITH THE PUBLIC.
AND IF THERE'S ANY MORE DISCUSSION, THERE WILL BE DISCUSSION.
AND A VOTE WILL BE CALLED ON THIS MEETING IS A OPEN MEETINGS.
UH, IT'S COVERED UNDER THE OPEN MEETING ACT.
SO ANYBODY FROM THE COMMUNITY CAN SHOW UP.
EVERY MEMBER UH, SHOULD ALSO HELP OTHER BOARD MEMBERS TO UNDERSTAND HOW TO DEFINE LOCAL POLICY VERSUS LEGAL POLICY.
NOW I PUT THAT THERE BECAUSE IF SOMEBODY ASKS ME THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN LOCAL POLICY AND LEGAL POLICY, I'M GONNA REFER THEM TO OUR ATTORNEY.
THE OUTCOME IS FOR EACH BOARD MEMBER AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS, WE'LL HAVE CLARITY OF GOVERNANCE AND OPERATING PROCEDURES AS OUTLINED AND BOARD POLICY.
ANY CHANGES OR UPDATE SHOULD BE CLEARLY DEFINED TO EVERY BOARD MEMBER.
SO THEY WILL BE ABLE TO RESEARCH INDIVIDUALLY, DEFINE AND ANSWER AND THE PURPOSE OF THEIR DECISION SO THEY CAN COINCIDE WITH THEIR VOTE AT THE SCHOOL BOARD MEETING AS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL.
NOW WHAT I JUST READ, IS THERE ANY QUESTION BEFORE WE MOVE TO THE NEXT THING YOU COULD TO CLARIFY? THIS IS SOMETHING YOU TYPED UP.
HMM? IS THAT SOMETHING YOU TYPED UP? YES.
I TYPED THIS UP FOR ME SO I CAN MAKE SURE THAT I, I I START OFF TRYING TO BE ON TRACK TO WHILE WE IN THE MEETING.
DID YOU PROOFREAD FOR TYPO? HUH? DID YOU PROOFREAD FOR TYPO? DID I, DID YOU, DID YOU HEAR TYPO
CAN WE STAY FOCUSED? THANK YOU.
ALL RIGHT, SO NOW YOU ALL I WANNA ASK EVERYONE, THIS IS A WORKING, UH, POLICY MEETING FOR OPERATING.
DO EVERYBODY HAVE IT IN FRONT OF HIM? LOOK AT THE BOTTOM.
IT SHOULD SAY AUGUST 29TH, 2019.
NOW WHEN MR. JONES COME, HE HAS ANOTHER ONE THAT HE WILL PROPOSE.
BUT I'M GONNA LET HIM TO PROPOSE THAT TO ME CUZ I HADN'T READ.
I ONLY, I'M ONLY ADDRESSING WHAT I DONE READ AND WHAT I HAVE GIVEN EVERYBODY ELSE IN A TIMELY MANNER.
SO LET'S LOOK AT THE FIRST ONE.
SO MISS MS. MOORE, I'M NOT GONNA READ THIS WHOLE POLICY APP, BUT WHOEVER WANNA READ IT CAN READ IT.
SO YOU SAID TY HAS, HE'S PROBABLY WHAT DID A, A MARKUP OR SOMETHING IN TY HAS HE'LL PRESENT 2017.
NO, HE'S, HIS DEAL CAME FROM 2017.
HE SAID THE ONE HE HAD IS LIKE ADOPTED SEPTEMBER 25TH, 2017.
THE ONE THAT WE ARE WORKING ON NOW AS A BOARD, AS THE NEW BOARD MEMBERS IS AUGUST, 2019, 2019.
AND SO, MARION, THIS THE 20 19 1 PROBABLY WAS THE PA PART OF THE PAST ADMINISTRATION.
AND 2019, THE PAST ADMINISTRATION WE HAVEN DID ONE WITH THE NEW ADMINISTRATION.
THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
SO SHE YOU'RE PROBABLY MORE FAMILIAR WITH THE TIMING AND ALL OF THAT.
THEY WENT OVER IT WHEN I FIRST GOT ON BOARD.
BUT WE HAVE TO ACT ON THE 2017.
NO, YOU SAID WE HAVE TO ACT ON 2017.
TELL ME IF I DO SOMETHING WRONG, I SAY SOMETHING WRONG CAUSE I'M TALKING FAST.
NOW ARE WE GONNA READ THIS TO OURSELVES OR SOMEBODY WANNA READ IT OUT LOUD? OKAY.
UH, JUST A COUPLE QUICK QUESTIONS IF I MAY.
NOW YOU SAID WE, WE YOU WANT TO GO THROUGH THE WHOLE DAY AND YOU SAID YOU'D ENTERTAIN, UH, OPINIONS TO THE CONTRARY.
YOU DON'T WANNA GO THROUGH THE WHOLE THING? I WOULD PREFER THAT, YOU KNOW, WE ALL HAD TIME TO REVIEW IT.
THAT WE JUST BRING UP THE SECTIONS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO GET INTO.
DO YOU HAVE 'EM MARKED? CAUSE I HAVE, I HAVE STU LET ME TELL YOU SEE HOW THE MARK MATCHES UP ON YOUR PAGE.
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YOU YOU WANNA READ THIS ALL 30? NO, THAT'S, WELL IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ALREADY READ BEFORE WE GOT HERE TODAY.ARE WE GONNA GO AHEAD AND JUST MOVE FORWARD? THANK YOU.
YEAH, LET'S GO AHEAD AND ADDRESS CONCERNS THAT MR. CAUSE WE MAY NOT FINISH TONIGHT, RIGHT? WE MAY HAVE TO COME BACK.
SO DO YOU WANT SOMEBODY WANNA READ IT OR Y'ALL WANNA READ IT SILENT OR DO YOU HAVE ANY CORRECTIONS ON ON PAGE ONE? I HAVE A COUPLE OF HIGHLIGHTS ON PAGE ONE, BUT I'LL LET EVERYBODY ELSE GO FIRST.
CAUSE AIN'T NOBODY SEEN MY HIGHLIGHTS AND MONAY JUST TOOK A COPY IN MY HIGHLIGHT.
SHE DIDN'T EVEN KNOW HIM ON PAGE ONE.
IT IS JUST THIS, THIS PAGE TWO PAGE.
YOU GOT A PROBLEM WITH PAGE ONE THOUGH? NO, NO.
I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I WAS ON WELL THERE SHOULD BE A PROBLEM WITH PAGE ONE OTHER THAN THE 2019.
IT'S 2022 WHEN IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE UPDATED WHEN YOU GO THROUGH HERE.
THAT'S EVERY BUT IT'LL GET UPDATED WHEN YS WHAT? SO THAT'S OUR, THEY WON'T BE UPDATE UNTIL TIME.
IT WON'T BE UPDATED UNTIL BOARD APPROVED.
WE ONLY GOING, IT MAY NOT EVEN BE THE NEXT BOARD MEETING.
BECAUSE IT DEPENDS ON WHAT WE ALL GET THROUGH TONIGHT.
AND MS, WE'RE HERE GONNA KEEP US IN ORDER.
AND BY GOT CONCERNS WITH TWO BEFORE I SAY MINES.
OKAY, ON THE THIRD LINE IT SAYS NOT ALL POLICY, NOT ALL DISTRICT POLICY AND PROCEDURES ARE INCLUDED.
WE'LL GO THROUGH THAT AND FIND OUT BECAUSE IT ISN'T, SO I WANT EVERYBODY TO KEEP THAT IN MIND.
THIS IS NOT EVEN ALL ABOUT POLICY AND PROCEDURES.
THE NEXT THING THAT I HAVE IS UM, UM, MAYBE THAT WAS MY NOTES BECAUSE IT WAS HAVING TO DO WITH STATE LAW ADMINISTRATIVE RULES.
I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN STATE LAW ADMINISTRATIVE RULES OR BOARD ADOPTED POLICY.
BECAUSE THE BOARD CAN ONLY ADOPT A POLICY, LEGAL AND LOCAL THAT IN LINES WITH STATE AND ADMINISTRATIVE LAW.
THE ADMINISTRATIVE LAW IS WHO THAT WHAT TASB ADMINISTRATIVE.
IS THE STATE BOARD OF EDUCATION, ARE YOU ASKING TO ASK? I WOULD KNOW OR ARE YOU ASKING TO CLARIFY? DID ANYBODY KNOW WHAT THE UH, STATE LAW AND HOW THE STATE LAW IS MADE AND ADMINISTRATIVE LAW THAT LEAVE THE BOARD POLICY? I'M ASKING CUZ I'M WONDERING, DO YOU KNOW? YES I DO.
THE REASON I'M ASKING CUZ IF WE MOVE THIS ALONG, LIKE WE'RE TEACHING A CLASS MM-HMM.
IT'S, AND IF WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH JUST PRESENTING THE INFORMATION GOTCHA.
BUT I DON'T WANT REASON WHY I COVERED THIS PAGE.
SO IF EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND IT, I'M OKAY.
YOU CAN JUST ANSWER WHATEVER YOU FEEL LIKE YOU CAN AND IF NOT, AND OTHER WE GONNA GET THE ATTORNEY TO GIVE IT TO US.
SO FOR CLARIFICATION ON PAGE ONE, MS. MORRIS.
AND THAT SAME, I'M SORRY, YEAH.
WE CAN GO ON TO PAGE THREE NOW.
YOU ALL BEFORE WE MOVE TO PAGE THREE.
DO ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS ABOUT PAGE TWO? OTHER THAN, YEAH, I THOUGHT I ASKED THAT, BUT MAYBE ONE.
THE PURPOSE IS VOTER CONDUCT AND STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURES.
NOW WE HAVE AN IMMENSE BODY OF LAW BETWEEN STATUTES, POLICIES, BOTH LEGAL AND LOCAL AND ADMINISTRATIVE LAW.
FROM ADMINISTRATIVE LAW AGENCIES.
WHY DO WE NEED THIS CHANCE? WE RECOMMENDED THAT WE HAVE BOARD OPERATING PROCEDURES IN OUR DISTRICT.
I'M SURE Y'ALL PROBABLY HAVE ATTENDED A CLASS WHERE THEY ALWAYS ASK HOW MANY DISTRICTS HAVE BOARD OPERATING PROCEDURES.
THIS CAME, THEY REALLY STARTED PUSHING THIS PROBABLY MAYBE 10 YEARS AGO.
AND THEY REALLY RECOMMEND THAT BECAUSE EVERY, LIKE WE SAY, THIS IS JUST A SNIPPET OF POLICY AND STUFF THAT'S OUT THERE.
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SO THIS IS JUST TO BRING, HONE IN ON IMPORTANT STUFF THAT'S USED A LOT WITHIN WORK, YOUR WORKING BOARD TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY HAS SEEN IT IN ONE PLACE.AND THAT IT IS SOMETHING THAT, THIS IS WHAT WE KIND ABIDE BY AS A BOARD.
AND SO THIS IS LIKE REALLY THE SHORT VERSION OF IT.
SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVE BOARD OPERATING PROCEDURES AND IT'S HIGHLY RECOMMENDED BY TASKING AND THE REASON FOR THE LOCAL BOARD OPERATING PROCEDURES FOR, UM, FOR THE DISTRICT TO, UM, DEVELOP THEIR OWN IN CONJUNCTION WHAT, YOU KNOW, WITH COMPLEMENTING OF THE, EXCUSE ME, ME, BUT MY BARRIER I'M, GO AHEAD.
BUT, UM, IT'S BECAUSE DISTRICTS ARE DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT SIZES OR, AND THE WAY CERTAIN THINGS, CERTAIN THE, MY UNDERSTANDING AS FAR AS THE OPERATION, THE SIZE AND WHAT, WHAT FITS ONE DO NOT FIT ALL.
SO IT'S MORE OF A COMMUNI ANOTHER WAY OF COMMUNICATING.
OF COMMUNICATING AND BEING ABLE TO, UM, ADHERE TO THE GUIDELINES OF THE LAW, BUT MORE ON A LOCAL LEVEL AS IT FITS THAT DISTRICT VERSUS ANOTHER ONE.
BECAUSE WHAT I, MY UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE ATTORNEY SAID IS BECAUSE SOME ARE, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT SIZES, THEY MAY NOT HAVE EIGHT BOARD MEMBERS.
THEY MAY HAVE AND YOU GOT BOARD MEMBERS THAT'S BEEN THERE FOR AGES OR WHAT HAVE YOU.
BUT ALSO TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE MOVING A LONG AND IF AND IF THERE'S ANY ISSUES OR CONCERNS.
WHAT YOU JUST DESCRIBED IS LOCAL POLICY.
SO MY POINT IS WHY THE REDUNDANCY NOW THE PRESIDENT JUST SAID IT'S CAUSE IT'S A CONDENSED VERSION.
CONDENSE EASIER TO READ VERSION.
AND THERE'S SOME ARGUMENT, BUT, BUT I DISAGREE.
YOUR DISAGREEMENT IS WELL TAKEN.
I WANTED TO PICK IT BACK OFF THE BOARD PRESIDENT BECAUSE SHE BROKE IT DOWN BETTER THAN I WILL BREAK IT DOWN.
CUZ I WOULD SAY IT IS A SHORT VERSION OF GOVERNANCE CUZ THAT'S ALL WE GOT CONTROL OF.
SO EVERY, AND THIS IS ONLY A SUMMARY, A SHORT SUMMARY OF GOVERNANCE.
SO MR. STEVENSON, THAT WHAT WOULD, IN LIEU OF THE LOCAL, WHAT WOULD YOU SUGGEST YOU, YOU DISAGREE WITH? WELL, MS. MORRIS JUST POINTED OUT SOMETHING VERY IMPORTANT.
THE LOCAL POLICY PRETTY MUCH COINCIDES ALONG WITH LEGAL, NOT EVERYTHING, BUT MOST OF IT.
BUT THE ONLY ONE THAT'S REALLY QUITE RELEVANT TO US IS THE GOVERNANCE SECTION.
NO, IT, IT'S REALLY YES IT IS, SIR.
THIS IS NOT EVEN ALL OF IT, ALL OF THIS THAT I PULLED AND I PRINTED OFF, I HAD TO PRINT OFF ALL OF IT WHEN I WENT TO TRIAL.
BUT THIS IS WHAT I PRINTED OFF JUST FOR THIS MEETING.
IT TAKES A LOT FOR A BOARD MEMBER TO UNDERSTAND AND KNOW GOVERNANCE BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE MIX UP BEGIN.
IT'S A BIG MIX UP BETWEEN A BOARD RESPONSIBILITY AND A SUPERINTENDENT'S RESPONSIBILITY.
IT'S THIS BIG FOR THE GOVERNMENT AND IT IS THIS BIG FOR THE DISTRICT.
IF YOU WANNA LOOK AT THE ACTUAL LAW.
SO SECTION B ONLINE POLICY IS, IS THAT, THAT'S WHAT SPEAKS TO LOCAL GOVERNANCE, RIGHT? I'M SORRY? IS THAT WHAT YOU ALL ARE TALKING ABOUT? THE LOCAL GOVERNANCE? IF I'M LOOKING AT, UH, ONLINE POLICY, SECTION B, HOLD ON, LET ME, LET ME, UH, LET ME, ACTUALLY I PRINTED IT OUT.
SO, BUT WHEN WE GO ON, I GET IT.
I, I'LL I'LL GET IT ACTUALLY PRINTED IT MORE.
SO HERE, THIS IS ONLINE POLICY.
YOU SEE WHERE BEING IT'S IT'S ONLINE POLICY.
LO THE BASIC DISTRICT FOUNDATIONS IS COVERED WITH US BECAUSE THAT'S BEFORE LOCAL GOVERNANCE.
BUT WHEN YOU CLICK ON LOCAL GOVERNANCE, YOU SEE HOW BIG IT IS.
SEE HOW BIG, ALL OF THAT'S LOCAL GOVERNANCE AND EACH ONE OF THEM GOT A DETAIL TO IT.
THIS IS LOCAL GOVERNANCE AND IT DOESN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT INTERFERING OR GETTING OR ANY DISTRICT EMPLOYEE THAT IS NOT HIRED BY THE SUPERINTENDENT.
THE ONLY THING THAT'S HELD BY THE BOARD GOVERNMENT.
HUH? HOW DO WE GET INTO TALKING SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE, BECAUSE IT'S RIGHT HERE.
I'M, I'M FINN TO I'M FINN TO TELL YOU BECAUSE UNDER BOARD GOVERNANCE, BJ, IT STRICTLY TALKS ABOUT THE SUPERINTENDENT QUALIFICATIONS AND DUTIES.
SUPERINTENDENT'S, RECRUITMENTS AND APPOINTMENTS, SUPERINTENDENT'S CONTRACT, ALL OF THIS DOWN HERE FALLS ON THE GOVERNANCE.
I JUST WANTED, THAT'S THE ONLY REASON WHY I WAS BRINGING IT UP.
BECAUSE A LOT OF INDIVIDUALS DON'T KNOW WHAT TO ALL ENCOMPASS THE GOVERNANCE.
THAT'S NOT REALLY THE EVERYDAY STUFF THAT WE DO.
I IT ALL REALLY, ACTUALLY IT IS, BUT IT WOULD TAKE US FOREVER
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TO, THAT'S THE REASON WHY I REQUESTED THE WORKSHOP.COMMUNICATION 1 0 1, WE NEED TO HAVE A WORKSHOP TO DISCUSS THESE CONCERNS, QUESTIONS, AND DETAILS.
BUT HOLD ON, MS. WINFIELD, YOU ARE RIGHT.
BUT IN ORDER TO ADDRESS A BOARD MEMBER QUESTIONS AND CONCERN THEY WOULD HAVE, THE INDIVIDUAL BOARD MEMBER WILL HAVE TO READ THIS, SEND IT IN BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE A WORKSHOP, WHOEVER PRESENT THE WORKSHOP, IT CANNOT BE US.
IT NEEDS TO BE SOMEONE OUTSIDE OF US.
BUT IN ORDER FOR THEM TO COME TO US AND ANSWER OUR QUESTIONS, WE GOTTA GIVE THEM THE QUESTIONS THAT WE HAVE ALREADY REVIEWED AND WE HAD DIDN'T UNDERSTAND.
WE JUST CAN'T HOLD A WORKSHOP.
NOW, I'M TELLING YOU FROM OLD, OLD SCHOOL.
BUT I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE STATING.
BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, NOT TO WHAT YOU'RE STATING, THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING WHEN IT COMES TO A WORKSHOP.
WE DON'T HAVE THE EMAIL AND AS AN OPTION, BUT THERE ARE POINTS THAT WE DO ADDRESS AS IT RELATES TO A WORKSHOP AND HAVING IT LAID OUT.
BUT WE'RE NOT SPEAKING OF WORKSHOPS RIGHT NOW.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE, UH, POLICY.
SO IF WE COULD STAY FOCUS AND WE WERE, I WAS ONLY REPEATING WHAT YOU HAD SAID EARLIER ABOUT THE WORKSHOPS BECAUSE THERE WOULD BE NO WAY I I I DON'T KNOW IF I COULD SUPPORT THAT.
ARE WE THROUGH WITH TWO? WE DO.
ANYBODY GOT ANYTHING ELSE WITH TWO? LET'S MOVE ON WITH THREE.
NOW I DON'T WANNA CHALLENGE ANYBODY ABILITY TO SAY, BUT WE REALLY GOTTA GIVE INPUT ON THIS BECAUSE AS A BOARD MEMBER, WE WANNA READ IT.
MS. RIVERFIELD, YOU WANNA READ THAT? YEAH.
I WILL PROMOTE THE BEST INTEREST OF THE STUDENT, STAFF AND DISTRICT AS A WHOLE.
I WILL BE FAIR, JUST AND IMPARTIAL IN ALL MY DECISIONS AND ACTIONS.
WHERE YOU READING THAT? THE TOP ONE? AT THE TOP ONE.
I MEAN THE BOARD PRESIDENT, PART BOARD, BOARD MEMBER ETHICS.
I WAS JUST LOOKING AT THE FIRST SENTENCE.
I WILL ASK MY DECISION ON INFORMATION AND DATA.
I WILL RESPECT THE MAJORITY DECISION AS THE DECISION OF THE BOARD.
I WILL ENCOURAGE EXPRESSION OF DIFFERENT OPINIONS AND LISTEN.
LISTEN WITH AN OPEN MIND AND TO OTHER IDEAS.
I WILL GIVE OTHER THE RESPECT I WISH FOR MYSELF.
I WILL CONSISTENTLY UPHOLD ALL APPLICABLE LAWS, RULES, POLICIES, AND GOVERNANCE PROCEDURES.
I WILL KEEP MATTERS CONFIDENTIAL AS REQUIRED BY LAW.
I WILL FOCUS MY ATTENTION ON FULFILLING THE BOARD'S RESPONSIBILITY OF GOAL SETTING, POLICY MAKING AND AND THE EVALUATION.
I WILL AVOID PERSONAL INVOLVEMENT IN ACTIVITIES THE BOARD HAS DELEGATED TO THE SUPERINTENDENT.
AND WAS THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS ONE? WELL, I DON'T KNOW.
THAT'S WHY I WAS GONNA ASK EVERYBODY.
ANYBODY WANNA CHANGE THAT? CAUSE WE CAN CHANGE IT.
I DON'T THINK IT NEEDS TO BE CHANGED.
I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE, UM, THERE NEEDS TO BE UM, SOMETHING TO ACCOMMODATE WHAT'S HERE AS IT RELATES TO WHEN THESE POLICIES WELL, I'M GOTTEN TO THAT HARD YET.
OKAY, BECAUSE THIS RIGHT HERE IS US SAYING AS A BOARD, DO WE AGREE THAT WE WILL PROMOTE THE BEST INTEREST OF THE STUDENTS STAFF? NO, I THINK THIS, THIS STATES THIS IS PERFECT.
SO ANYBODY ELSE WANNA CHANGE? ANY, ANY STATEMENTS THERE? YEAH.
IT'S WE NEED TO TAKE TOO MANY BREAK.
SO I REMEMBER WHEN I GOT HOME.
AND BY NEED, UH, I WILL WANNA CHANGE ANYTHING.
SO, YOU KNOW, NOT TO GET, BUT WHEN I FIRST READ THIS PAGE, BOTH OF THEM MM-HMM.
IT WAS LIKE SOME KIND OF, UH, MIDDLE SCHOOL TEACHER'S CLASS ROSE ETIQUETTE.
SO DO YOU THINK WE DON'T NEED IT? PLEASE? NO, WE DON'T BEAR WITH ME WITH, NO, I DON'T.
WE'RE A GOVERNING BODY AND WE CAN POLICE OURSELVES.
WE RESPECT THE CONDUCT AND HOW WE SHOULD ACT.
WE DON'T NEED ANYBODY WITH I WILL, I'LL DO THIS.
IT'S INSULTING TO YOU MR. STEVENS.
BUT REMEMBER WE ARE MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE BODY AND SO WELL TAKEN.
THAT, UH, MR. STEVENS POSITION ON THIS PORTION.
NOW WE ASK ANYBODY ELSE HAVE A POSITION ON THIS PORTION, BUT FOR CLARITY, CAUSE WE CAN'T, WE NOT SAYING NOTHING
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IN THIS MEETING, BUT FOR CLEAR MR. STEVENSON, YOU'RE SAYING THAT TO DO AWAY WITH THE BOARD MEMBER ETHICS OR YOU TALKING ABOUT THIS WHOLE PAGE ALTOGETHER? YES.WHY? OH, BECAUSE IT'S BECAUSE WE SHOULD KNOW THAT.
AND SO ARE THERE ANY OTHER DISTRICTS THAT BOARD, WE'RE A GOVERNING BODY AND WE CAN RULE OURSELVES.
WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE ANYBODY MAKE UP RULES FOR US.
BUT THIS DOESN'T, UM, THIS DOESN'T STATE ANYONE RULE OVER US.
THIS IS JUST STATING THIS IS MORE LIKE A THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT IT IS, IN MY OPINION.
CAN YOU POINT WHERE POINT OUT TO WHERE YOU SEE WHERE IT, YOU FEEL LIKE SOMEBODY'S RULING OVER US? OH, IT DOES.
SO TAKING A OATH TO YOURSELF, TO ME THIS IS LIKE A, LIKE A REMINDER OATH RESPONSIBILITY OR WHAT HAVE YOU.
AND, AND BUSINESSES HAVE THIS, THEY HAVE THEIR ETHICS AND BOARDS AND YOU JUST, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE A REMINDER OR REFERENCE.
WELL, BUT LET'S, UH, LET'S AGREE TO DISAGREE MORE.
IF I CAN POINT OUT ONE THING IN HERE MM-HMM.
JUST FOR A COUPLE OF MINUTES, I HAD A CONVERSATION THIS PAST FRIDAY WITH A COMMUNITY MEMBER ABOUT A SITUATION THAT ONLY EIGHT OR SO OF US SHOULD HAVE KNOWN ABOUT.
AND I FOUND IT EXTREMELY DISRESPECTFUL IN THAT THAT INDIVIDUAL WAS HAVING THAT CONVERSATION WITH ME.
AND I'M HAVING TO SAY, WAIT A MINUTE, THAT WAS A, THAT WAS, THAT WAS A PRETTY MUCH PRIVATE CONVERSATION.
I MEAN, AND THAT'S, I STATED MY OPINION.
AND IF YOU DISAGREE, WE'LL AGREE TO DISAGREE.
THAT'S, THAT'S WHO IT'S UM, WE CAN MOVE ON.
UH, AND SINCE YOU HAVE SAID THAT YOU ALL, I THINK FOR US TO HOLD OURSELF ACCOUNTABLE WITH ETHICS AND STAND TALL IS I'M A MILITARY PERSON TOO.
AND BY GOD, YOU GONNA FOLLOW THEM RULES.
AND I'M GONNA TELL YOU THAT I SIT ON THE BOARD WITH A, A BOARD MEMBER THAT'S STILL SITTING ON THE BOARD AND AIN'T TALKING ABOUT ME.
THAT WAS SANCTIONED BY THE BOARD.
NOT SANCTIONED, BUT CENSORED BY THE BOARD BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT THAT BOARD MEMBER WENT OUT AND SAID SOMETHING THAT'S A PUBLIC EMBARRASSMENT THAT DIDN'T EVEN NEED TO TAKE PLACE.
BUT GUESS WHAT? EACH MEMBER DIDN'T DO WHAT THIS SAY.
BECAUSE NUMBER ONE, IF MR. LEWISS IS SITTING HERE SAYING THAT HE TALKED TO SOMEBODY OUT IN THE COMMUNITY THAT REPEATED TO HIM WHAT SOMEBODY SAID, I'M GONNA TELL YOU ALL I, I SAID IT BEFORE.
I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL ALL GOT ME, BUT IF I CATCH THAT I'M FILING ON THE BOARD, I'M NOT LYING, I'M FILING.
BECAUSE AT ONE POINT IT'S GOTTA STOP.
WE HAVE WELL THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHY WE GOT THESE GUIDELINES.
NOW, MR. STEVENS, YOU TALKED TO ME TODAY AND I HAD TO CLARIFY SOMETHING.
I SAID LOCAL CONTROL IS OUT CONTROL.
I DIDN'T SAY LOCAL POLICY WAS OUTTA CONTROL.
I SAID LOCAL CONTROL BOARD MEMBERS WAS OUT OF CONTROL.
WELL, I STICK BY MY AND THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T UNDER CONTROL LOCALLY THEN LETTING GREG HAVE CONTROL.
IT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT I'M SAYING AND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
BECAUSE LOCAL CONTROL IS GOVERNED BY LEGAL, LOCAL AND LEGAL.
YOU CAN'T DO A LOCAL WITHOUT A LEGAL, WE NOT WE GONNA GET INTO THAT.
CAUSE THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT.
NOW, BOARD MEMBERS, LOCAL CONTROL, IF BOARD MEMBERS DOING STUFF THAT THEY KNOW THAT'S ILLEGAL IS WRONG AND PASS MOTIONS AND BOTH YES AND NO ON STUFF THAT SHOULD NOT ARE IN FEAR IN DISTRICT POLICY AND THEY KNOW THEY SHOULDN'T BECAUSE THE LAW TELLS YOU YOU CAN'T DO IT.
ANY INFORMATION MR. I JUST WANTED, I JUST WANTED TO BE CLEAR.
OKAY, SO IF WE HAVE NO OTHER PROBLEM, WHAT I WILL, LET'S GO TO THE RULES OF THE ORDER OF THE BOARD WHO WANNA READ THAT? UM, I'M GONNA HAVE TO REFERENCE BACK TO IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS WITH THE WHAT? OH, YOU STILL GOT SOME QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS? WHAT I WILL, BECAUSE WE CAN GO THROUGH HERE AND READ THE ENTIRE THING, IS, IS THAT THE PLAN TO GO THROUGH HENRY TO I JUST NEED TO CLARIFY.
IF WE ARE, THEN THAT'S ALL I NEED TO UNDERSTAND AND RIGHT, I READ THAT.
THAT'S WHY I DID THE INTRODUCTION.
SO I WOULDN'T FORGET THAT PART.
THAT'S, WE NEED TO COVER EVERYTHING IN THIS BECAUSE IF SOMEBODY COME BACK AND SAID THEY DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M GONNA SAY, YOU'RE
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NOT TELLING THE TRUTH.CAUSE I KNOW IN MY COMMITTEE POLICY PROCEDURES, WE COVERED EVERYTHING.
SO SOMEBODY DIDN'T HEAR CAROL MORRIS MOUTH THAT WAY.
THEY REALLY HAD THEIR EARS FIRST.
HOW ABOUT NO, YOU HEY, YOU READ IT.
YOU WANT ME TO READ THIS ONE? OKAY.
BOARD RULES OF ORDER OF THE BOARD MEETINGS.
BOARD MEMBERS SHALL ENSURE THAT THEIR BEHAVIORS, UH, CONTRIBUTE TO THE EFFECTIVE OPERATION AND BOARD GOVERNANCE SHALL TREAT EACH OTHER.
THE SUPERINTENDENT, THE STAFF AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS RESPECTFULLY SHALL ENSURE THAT ALL DELIBERATIONS DIRECTLY RELATED TO AN ITEM LISTED ON THE AGENDA FOR THE MEETINGS SHALL FIRST SEEK RECOGNITION FROM THE BOARD PRESIDENT IF THEY WISH TO COMMENT ON A TOPIC BEING DISCUSSED.
SHALL NOT DOMINATE DISCUSSIONS.
SHALL NOT CONDUCT PRIVATE DISCUSSIONS DURING MEETINGS.
SHALL REFRAIN FROM DIRECTING DEROGATORY REMARKS AT OTHER PERSONS SHALL ADDRESS THE BOARD PRESIDENT, NOT OTHER BOARD MEMBERS.
ALL REMARKS AND DISAGREEMENTS WITH OTHER BOARD MEMBERS SHALL LISTEN TO COMMENTS AND MAY ASK CLARIFYING QUESTIONS DURING CITIZEN'S COMMENTS.
IF THE QUESTION CALLED TO END A DEBATE AND I MONA PUT IN HERE FOR US AND I WANTED TO ASK Y'ALL SINCE I WAS THERE, IF YOU ALL WILL LOOK AT THIS SHEET AND WHILE YOU LOOKING AT IT, LET US KNOW IF YOU WANT US TO ELIMINATE THIS AND PUT IT ON OUR DIETS BECAUSE WE WILL BEGIN AND CONSTANTLY, THIS RIGHT HERE IS A PART OF ROBERT'S RULES AND WE WILL ACT ACCORDINGLY TO ROBERT'S RULES.
YOU KNOW, WE DON'T MAKE THAT LAW, BUT EVERY COMMITTEE WILL DO THAT.
SO IS IS IN FACT ADOPTED BE ROBERT'S RULES VERBATIM OR WE JUST UH, USE THAT AS A REFERENCE? NO, ROBERT'S RULE IN AN ELECTED POSITION THAT'S GOVERNED BY A BODY THAT'S LEGISLATED HAS TO ACT UNDER ROBERT'S RULES.
SO WE DON'T HAVE A CHOICE IN THE MATTER.
AND SO, UH, AND IT SPEAKS TO EVERYTHING ABOUT WHAT I JUST READ.
UH, IF WE'RE IN A DEBATE AND I SAID IN A DEBATE WITH A QUESTION, THE QUESTION IS CALLED EVERYBODY STOP TALKING.
TO TABLE AN AGENDA ITEM, WE REQUIRE MAJORITY VOTE ANY QUESTION.
AND THAT'S IN THIS RIGHT HERE.
IF YOU ALL TAKE A QUICK LOOK, IF YOU NEED, UH, WE CAN GET THIS LAMINATED FOR EVERYBODY TO HAVE IT.
THE ONE THAT THE PLACE MAT IS THERE.
I PUT THERE BACK, I PUT THAT THERE BACK IN EARLY 2000.
SO IT NEEDS TO BE UPDATED BECAUSE ROBERT'S RULES HAS BEEN UPDATED.
IS THAT OKAY FOR HER TO DO THIS? TO UPDATE IT? ELIMINATE TO LEMONADE? NO, JUST ELIMINATE SHE DON'T UPDATE NOTHING.
THIS WOULD STRICTLY ONE MIGHT BE UPDATED.
THIS IS THE, THAT IS THE UPDATED, OKAY.
DID YOU BRING, BRING YOUR BOOK? THE BOOK IS STICK.
THIS IS THE, THAT'S THE SUMMARY BUT IT'S STICKER THAN THAT.
BUT THIS IS JUST A QUICK WORD.
WE OKAY WITH THAT? WE CAN MOVE ON? YES, PLEASE.
ANY QUESTIONS? HEARING ONE, TWICE, THREE TIMES WE MOVING ON NUMBER FOUR.
OKAY, NOW GUESS WHERE WE ARE, YOU ALL, WE'RE ON PAGE FOUR AND NOW WE GONNA TALK ABOUT LOCAL POLICY.
AND THE ONLY REASON WHY I PRINTED OUT SOME OF THESE BECAUSE THEY'RE REFERENCED IN LOCAL, I'M A LEGAL PERSON.
SO REALLY I JUST LOOKED AT THE LOCAL CODE AND WENT TO LEGAL AND READ WHAT LEGAL SAID AND MAKE SURE IT COINCIDE.
DID EVERYBODY ELSE DO THAT OR DID ANYBODY KNOW TO DO THAT? WELL, WE DON'T HAVE, WE GOTTA GO THROUGH EACH ONE OF 'EM AGAIN.
NO, NO, THIS BECAUSE I JUST DON'T WANT NOBODY BECAUSE THIS IS IMPORTANT CUZ THIS IS WHAT WE GOTTA DO IS GOVERNING ON THAT DIAS.
AND IF YOU ALL STRICTLY READ LOCAL AND IT SAYS ON A REGULAR MEETING, SOMEBODY COULD THINK THAT THE BOARD PRESIDENT OR WHOEVER THE BOARD PRESIDENT IS IN POST THEIR GENDER.
RIGHT? BECAUSE THEY NEVER LOOKED AT LEGAL, RIGHT? HUH? SOMETIMES THE AGENDAS ARE NOT POSTED.
WELL, LET ME SHARE SOMETHING WITH YOU.
CAN I ASK YOU THIS MS. WHITFIELD, THE NEXT TIME YOU SEE AN AGENDA
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DOES NOT POSTED RIGHT, AND YOU KNOW IT'S NOT POSTED RIGHT BEFORE WE HAVE THAT MEETING, IT COULD BE CORRECTED.WE SHOULD NEVER EVER WAIT WHEN WE IDENTIFY THAT.
OKAY? AND I HAVE, I'VE SPOKE, I SPEAK UP AND I HAVE SPOKEN UP, BUT OKAY, IT'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SPEAKING OUT AND SPEAKING UP AND THEN IT BEING IGNORED.
OKAY? SO IT'S TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.
BUT I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND I, BUT BECAUSE WHAT I'M, WHAT WHAT I'M SAYING IS IF YOU DO HAVE A POLICY THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, IT'S A DIFFERENT OF HUMAN ERROR AND IT'S A DIFFERENCE OF INDIVIDUALS.
SOMETHING WE DEALING WITH ELECTRONICS, WE'VE BEEN SCAMMED AND EVERYTHING IN THIS DISTRICT.
BUT IT IS NO INTENT TO POST AN AGENDA BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT? IT WOULDN'T TAKE YOU TO SEE IT AND CATCH IT.
IT'S BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ARE AWARE, EVERY LAST ONE OF OUR BOARD MEETINGS, THERE IS SOMEONE FROM THE COMMISSIONER'S OFFICE IN AUSTIN WATCHES OUR MEETING AND WE HAVE THE US JUSTICE DEPARTMENT WATCHING OUR MEETINGS AND WE HAVE THE FBI WATCHING OUR MEETINGS BECAUSE OF BEHAVIORS OF PAST BOARD MEMBERS.
OKAY? SO THEREFORE IF YOU SEE A, A MEETING AND SAY FOR INSTANCE, YOU ARE BRINGING THAT UP IN THIS MEETING AND WE SAY IT OUT THERE IN THE PUBLIC MEETING, YOU WILL HAVE TO ACTUALLY PULL THOSE MEETINGS BECAUSE IF SOMEONE CALLED US ON IT AND IT IS FILED WITH THE ETHICS COMMITTEE IN AUSTIN, REMEMBER I SAID IF I CATCH SOMETHING, I'M AUTOMATICALLY FILE.
WHAT DO YOU MEAN I DON'T HAVE NO FRIENDS THAT I WOULDN'T FILE ON? WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY FILE FILING WITH THE ETHICS COMMITTEE OF IMPRO IMPROPER BEHAVIORS OR JUST LIKE WHAT MS. WOODFIELD SAID, POST AN AGENDA THAT'S INCORRECT.
NORMALLY DID, YOU KNOW IT'S INCORRECT CAUSE IT'S A DIFFERENCE THEN AN ACCIDENT AND SOMETHING NORMALLY POSTED INCORRECT AND THEY GOING BACK AND CHANGING STUFF.
BUT YOU CAN CHANGE IT AFTER THE FACT, BUT IT HAS TO BE ACKNOWLEDGED AND NO, IT HASN'T BEEN.
BUT NO, WE, UM, THAT IS LIKE I STATED BEFORE, UM, I'M, I'M, I'M LEARNING AND I'M LEARNING, BUT THANK YOU.
OKAY, SO MR. UH, JONES ARRIVED AT THE MEETING AT WHAT TIME? 13.
SO MR. JONES, WE ARE ON PAGE FOUR GOING THROUGH THE LOCAL POLICY OF THE OPERATING PROCEDURE DATED AUGUST 29TH, 2019.
OKAY? AND IT'S UP THERE ON THE BOARD.
SO THIS IS THE CHANGES THAT, OH, AND MS. WHITFIELD IS THE TIMEKEEPER.
WELL, YOU THE, YOU THE ONE, YOU THE ONE THAT KEEP US ON KEEP PULL OUT THE TIMEKEEPER.
DO ANYBODY WANT TO, BECAUSE IF NOBODY HAVE READ THIS, AND I'M, I'M, AND I'M GONNA BE HONEST, I'M STRICTLY TALKING TO THE NEW BOARD MEMBER.
I I HAVE FOR THE RECORD, I'VE READ IT.
UH, I THINK I HAD PROBABLY NOT THE LAST ONE PAGE.
I DON'T WELL, PAGE NUMBER 12, I DIDN'T READ, BUT I HAVE READ THROUGH THIS AND THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME I'VE ACTUALLY, UH, LOOKED AT IT.
I'VE LOOKED AT THIS A NUMBER OF TIMES BEFORE EVEN BEING ON THE BOARD.
SO YOU HAVE ANY CONCERNS? I MEAN, I HAVE QUESTIONS AS WE GO, BUT I DON'T PER SE HAVE ANYTHING WITH THIS PARTICULAR PAGE HERE.
BUT I WOULD ASK IF THERE IS SOMETHING ALWAYS REMEMBER LOCAL IS TIED TO LEGAL AND LEGAL WOULD BE A LEGAL QUESTION IF YOU WOULD.
I'M THE BOARD PRESIDENT, YOU ALL, I WANTED TO ALSO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT I'M BOARD PRESIDENT, PROBABLY NOW I'M A WORKING BOARD PRESIDENT AS OF THIS MEETING.
BUT, SO IF YOU HAVE ANY CONCERNS ABOUT WHAT IS COVERED IN THIS MEETING, WOULD YOU PLEASE SEND THEM TO ME? I WILL, I WILL GET 'EM TO, OH, YOU CAN SEND 'EM TO ME AND CC THE BOARD PRESIDENT.
BUT I WILL GET 'EM TO THE BOARD PRESIDENT AND THE BOARD PRESIDENT, AS THE POLICY SAYS, WOULD GET US A LEGAL OPINION ON IT.
SO FOR BUT FOR CLARITY, MS. MS. MOORE AND MS. UH, HAMILTON, WHEN WE HAVE QUESTIONS MM-HMM.
BUT AM I COPYING YOU, TY AND MS. MOORE OR AM I JUST, OR WHOEVER? NO, MY PROTOCOL IS TO SEND YOUR QUESTIONS TO MYSELF AND CC SUPERINTENDENT.
BUT THE ONLY REASON WHY I SAID THIS MEETING BECAUSE I'M THE SECRETARY AND ON TOP
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OF BEING THE SECRETARY, I'M THE CHAIR OF THIS.AND IF, IF YOU ARE ADDRESSING ANYTHING RELATING TO WHAT WE ARE COVERING HERE MM-HMM.
OKAY? CC THE BOARD PRESIDENT AND ALWAYS CC THE, UH, COPY THE SUPERINTENDENT ON IT.
AND THAT'S THE ONLY BOARD MEMBERS.
I'M NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO STRAIGHT A HOME THE MEETING AND I GO BACK AND PLAY NURSE.
SO YEAH, WE THIS WEEKEND, BUT WHAT I, YOU GOT WHAT? WE HAD INJURY THIS WEEKEND.
NOT TO ME I'M FIELD BUT FOUR COPIES.
WE ALL GOT ONE CUZ YOU SENT IT TO MONA AND SHE PRINTED ONE OUT FOR US.
THE REASON WHY, AND WE SAW IT, REASON WHY I DIDN'T ADDRESS IT BECAUSE I SAID IT MUST HAVE BEEN SOMETHING IN THERE YOU WANTED TO ADDRESS.
BUT IF YOU GOTTA LEAVE, YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO ADDRESS IT.
IT'S BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE COVER, I ADDRESS IT NOW.
CAUSE IS FORMAT NOT REALLY THE CONTENT.
SO IF YOU GUYS LOOK AT THIS DOCUMENT, UH, I PLACED, I DID THIS FOR I THINK THREE DISTRICTS BACK IN 1718.
OKAY, LET ME, LET ME SAY SOMETHING.
OKAY? UH, VICE PRESIDENT, WE ARE NOWHERE CLOSE TO EVEN ADOPTING THE POLICY.
LET'S TALK ABOUT, CAUSE WE GONNA HAVE A, HAVE TO HAVE ANOTHER MEETING.
WE NOT GONNA BE HERE ALL NIGHT.
BUT IF YOU CAN'T STAY AT THIS ONE, THEN BE WHEN THE BOARD VOTE TO INCLUSIVE AND IF THE BOARD CHOOSE THE GO, WHAT'S THE FORMAT OF 2017? IT'S THE BOARD CHOICE.
SO I WOULD MAKE SURE AS THE CHAIR, THAT THE BOARD AND I HADN'T EVEN LOOKED AT IT, BUT IF YOU HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH IT, IT PROBABLY LOOKS GOOD.
SO I'M GONNA DO A QUICK OVERVIEW AND THEN WE CAN KIND NO, WE CANNOT DO THAT.
UH, WE HAVE A, UH, AGENDA AND I READ OUR PROCEDURES TO START OFF WITH THIS.
WE HAVE A FLOW THAT WE'RE GOING IN, RIGHT? AND ONCE WE REACH A PAGE THAT, UM, REFERENCES TO ANY CHANGES OR REQUESTS OR, UM, THAT YOU HAVE SUGGESTED AND YOU ADDRESS.
ALL RIGHT? SO THE INFORMATION HERE IS NOT REALLY A SUGGESTION THAT RELATES TO CHANGING OPERATING PROCEDURE.
DOES THIS, I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
THE STRUCTURE OF IT, RIGHT? WELL, SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT YOU, THIS DOCUMENT DON'T NECESSARILY LOOK AT THE CONTENT OF BUT MORE SO OF THE STRUCTURE RIGHT DOWN.
THAT'S WHAT I, THAT'S WHAT I GOT WHEN YOU SAID THAT.
AND I, THAT'S THE REASON WHY I SAID IF IT WAS LIKE THAT AND YOU HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH IT, IT PROBABLY LOOKS REALLY GOOD.
SO, AND ONE OF THE THINGS YOU GUYS GONNA GO THROUGH, THIS WAS AN EXERCISE THAT I GAVE TO THOSE PARTICULAR BOARDS.
AND UNDER EACH ONE OF THE FOUR SECTIONS, IT GIVES THEM A LIST OF ITEMS TO KIND OF PICK FROM THAT THEY WOULD WANT, THEY WANT TO INCLUDE IN THOSE RESPECTIVE AREAS.
SO TRUSTEE, LIKE A LIST AND THEN THEY PICKED FROM THIS LIST, I THEN THEM INTO THEIR POLICIES, THEN INCLUDED THAT INTO THAT GRADE PROCEDURES.
SO I, I'LL LEAVE THIS FOR YOU GUYS AS WELL.
I, I I HAVE A SENT TO YOU, SO NO, NO I GOT OUR ROLE IN ORDER LIKE THAT.
BUT I GOT IT FROM THE, HOW THE STATE WAS DOING IT, WHICH IS THEN WHAT, UM, WAS ADOPTED BY THE STATE.
CUZ IT'S A LIST WHEN WE HADN'T EVEN GOTTEN TO THAT PART YET.
BUT THAT'S THE REASON WHY I SAID WE CAN DEFINITELY, CUZ I HAVEN'T SEEN YOURS, BUT I HAVE ONE IN IN MY BOOKS THAT I MADE UP.
I THOUGHT WE WAS GOING OVER THIS IN DETAILS.
I WAS ASKING ARE WE MAKING SUGGESTIONS? NO.
WE ON WE ON DEVELOPING BOARD MEETING AGENDAS.
WHERE IT SAYS, UH, BOARD MEMBER MAY REQUEST AND WRITING.
UM, IF TWO BOARD MEMBERS MAKE A TERM, TELL ME WHAT, TELL ME WHICH ONE YOU ON THREE.
CAUSE YOU SAYS THE BOARD MEMBER MAY STRESS IN WRITING AND YOU SUBMIT IT TO THE SUPERINTENDENT BY 4:00 PM SIX DAYS.
AND THEN IT SAYS IF TWO BOARD MEMBERS,
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THEN THE PRESIDENT MAY NOT LEAVE IT ALL.SO WHAT IS IT? IS IT THAT THINGS ONE IS A TIME REQUIREMENT THAT YOU HAVE TO SUBMIT YOUR REQUEST AND THEN THE OTHER ONE JUST SAYS THAT TWO PEOPLE HAVE TO SUBMIT THE REQUEST AND IT MUST BE PLACED ON THE AGENDA.
SO ONE IS A DEADLINE FOR TIME FOR PLA REQUESTING SOMETHING TO BE ON THE AGENDA.
THEN THREE IS TELLING ME THAT TWO BOARD MEMBERS HAVE TO REQUEST THE WAY WRITTEN.
REALLY IT'S UM, I'LL READ TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.
SO ONE LINE TELLS YOU TO GET IT THERE SIX DAYS, SIX CALENDAR DAYS IN ADVANCE AND THEN IT TELLS YOU THE TWO BOARD MEMBERS.
REAL POINT IS NUMBER THREE THAT I PREFER.
IT'S NOT, NOT LIKE WE HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF BOARD MEMBERS REQUESTING THINGS THAT A BOARD MEMBER MAY REQUEST TO BE PLACED ON AGENDA INSTEAD OF REQUIRING TWO.
THIS IS UNDER, I THINK THIS IT'S ON THE LEGAL, I'M TRYING TO FIND LEGAL CAUSE I PULLED IT.
IF YOU PULL A BE LEGAL UHHUH LEGAL WE MADE, UH, YES.
THIS, YEAH, ALL OF THIS, THE REQUIREMENTS HERE IS UNDER LEGAL AND I'M TRYING TO FIND IT CUZ I DID PRINT IT OFF.
CAN REQUEST FOR SOMETHING BE PLACED ON THE AGENDA? IT'S JUST, IT HAS TO BE SECOND BY SOMEBODY ELSE.
AND I'M, I'M ASSURE SOMETHING WITH YOU.
THIS WAS THE ONLY ENFORCED WHEN I CAME ON THE BOARD IN 2019 AND IT CAME UP IN MY TRIAL.
SO I'M GLAD IT'S THERE AND THAT'S ALL I'M GONNA SAY ABOUT IT.
WHY, WHY YOU GLAD IT'S THERE? WELL, I'M GLAD THAT IT'S THERE.
IT IS BECAUSE IT MAKES IT RIGHT FOR EVERYBODY TO UNDERSTAND HOW ITEMS GET PLACED ON THEIR AGENDA.
BECAUSE I GOT A LETTER FROM AN ATTORNEY THAT WAS NOT HIRED BY THE BOARD AND I DON'T KNOW HOW FOUR BOARD MEMBERS AGREED TO PAY THIS ATTORNEY AND TOLD ME I COULDN'T PUT NOTHING ON THE AGENDA.
SO I HAD TO REFER TO LEGAL AND I HAD TO ARGUE THAT IN COURT BOARD MEETING.
SO YOU YOU'RE SAYING THAT IF IT'S ILLEGAL, IF IT CAME FROM THE STATUTE, THEN IT CAN BE CHANGED FOR A POLICY OR DECISION.
YOU SAID WHAT? WHY YOU SAID IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.
CAUSE THEY DO LOOK LIKE NUMBER TWO DO LOOK LIKE AS LONG AS IT'S DONE BY A BOARD MEMBER WITHIN SIX CALENDAR DAYS PRIOR TO A REGULAR BOARD MEETING, THEN IT WILL, IT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED FOR THE NEXT BOARD MEETING THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN.
YES, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE.
AND THEN, UM, BUT IF TWO REQUESTED AND THANK YOU MA'AM.
OKAY, SO, SO LOOK, LOOK AT THE ORDER IT'S GOING IN.
HOLD ON, LOOK AT THE ORDER IT'S GOING IN CLARIFICATION.
YEAH, LOOK AT THE ORDER IT'S GOING IN.
PROPOSE AGENDA IS DRAFT A INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT ADMINISTRATOR AND PRESENT, UH, AND PRESENT TO THE BOARD PRESENTED, I'M SORRY, PRESENTED TO THE BOARD, UH, PRESIDENT FOR FINALIZATION.
NOW, UH, THERE ARE SOME CHANGES IN THAT AND I'M GONNA TELL YOU ALL WHAT THE CHANGES ARE, BUT LET ME READ IT IN ORDER.
THE WAY IT GOES, THE WAY THIS IS WRITTEN, I'M WITH RESPECT.
I'M GONNA SAY THIS, WE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO DEEPLY GO INTO THIS LIKE THIS BECAUSE IF EVERYONE HAD READ THIS AND THEN LOOKED AT LOCAL AND LEGAL TO HOW THE AGENDAS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE DONE, THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO BE VERY CLEAR IF THERE WAS ANY CHANGES TO BE MADE TO THIS, LET READ CLARIFICATION OF WHAT'S ON HERE.
NOT THAT IT HAD BEEN READ, IT'S THE CLARIFICATION AND THAT'S WHAT HE'S ASKING FOR.
NO, BUT IF IT HAD BEEN READ, ALL BOARD MEMBERS WOULD KNOW THAT IT HAS BEEN A CHANGE.
AND I'M GONNA TELL YOU ALL WHAT THE CHANGE IS.
I'M GONNA TELL YOU WHAT THE CHANGE IS, BUT I WANT YOU DEFER, SEE THE, SEE THE ORDER'S.
BUT I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT YOU UNDERSTAND THE ORDER.
THAT'S BECAUSE YOU ALL SAYING TWO IS CONTRADICTED TO THREE WELL'S TOTALLY WRITTEN.
IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT SAYING IT'S CONTRADICTING, IT'S STATING THAT IT'S IT'S POORLY WRITTEN VERIFICATION.
OKAY? IF IT'S POORLY WRITTEN, DO YOU HAVE A RIGHT WAY TO WRITE IT? I WOULD WRITE RECOMMENDATION, PULL IT DIRECTLY FROM POLICY.
SO HOW IT'S WRITTEN HERE, YOU CHANGE WHATEVER'S WRITTEN HERE AND PULL FROM POLICY, WHICH IS AGENDA IS NOT NUMBERED.
YOU MEAN FROM LEGAL OR YOU YOU MEAN FROM LOCAL? OKAY.
CAN YOU READ FROM LEGAL? WELL LEGAL DOES NOT SPEAK TO THIS PERSPECTIVE OR WORD.
SO IT SAYS THE DEADLINE FOR I TO THE SUPERINTENDENT, INCLUDING ON THE AGENDA THE SIXTH DAY BEFORE REGULAR MEETINGS AND THE SIXTH CALENDAR THE DAY BEFORE SPECIAL MEETINGS AND CONSULTATION BOARD PRESIDENT, SUPERINTENDENT SHALL PREPARE, IDENTIFY OUR BOARD MEETINGS.
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TWO BOARD MEMBERS MAY REQUEST IN WRITING THAT A SUBJECT BE INCLUDED ON THE AGENDA FOR A MEETING.THE SUPERINTENDENT SHALL INCLUDE THE PRELIMINARY AGENDA MEETING ALL OF MEETING ALL TOPICS THAT HAVE BEEN TIMELY SUBMITTED BY TWO BOARD MEMBERS.
REQUESTS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN TIMELY SUBMITTED TO THE SUPERINTENDENT SHALL BE PRESENTED TO THE BOARD PRESIDENT FOR CONSIDERATION ON THE NEXT AVAILABLE AGENDA.
UH, IF YOU, YOU'RE TAKING IT DIRECTLY FROM LOCAL, THAT WOULD REMOVE ANY ISSUES UNLESS WE WANT TO CHANGE THAT LOCAL POLICY, WHICH WOULD BE SOMETHING UNDER THE POLICY.
AND THAT, THAT IS PRECISELY THE POINT I WAS TRYING TO MAKE.
UH, RATHER THAN REQUIRE TWO BOARD MEMBERS.
IT'S NOT LIKE WE HAVE A BIG PROBLEM WITH PEOPLE TRYING TO SHOV TRYING TO SHOVE ALL KIND OF STUFF ON THE AGENDA.
I WOULD PREFER ONE TRUSTEE WHO HAD A CONVENTION ABOUT SOMETHING WHAT'S ON LEGAL.
UH, LEGAL DOESN'T SPEAK TO SPEAK AT TIMES.
AND THAT BRINGS ANOTHER QUESTION UP.
SO IF LEGAL SPECIFIES SOMETHING, THAT MEANS IT CAN BE CHANGED IN POLICY AND OPERATING PROCEDURES? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? CORRECT.
IF LEAH SAYS THAT, I DON'T KNOW.
SO YOU ALL, LET ME TELL YOU WHAT I REFER TO WHEN THIS IS TO ME.
THIS IS THE SCHOOL LAW BULLETIN.
SO TO ME THIS IS LEGAL MINES MAY SAY 2020, BUT I GOT THE UPDATE.
I HAD TO READ THIS BACK AND FORTH WHEN I, I REPRESENTED MYSELF.
ARE YOU GONNA REFERENCE THE TWO? UH, TWO AND THREE? YES.
SO TWO, YOU WANT ME TO GO AHEAD AND DO IT NOW, PLEASE.
ANY BOARD MEMBER, ANY MEMBER OF THE BOARD MAY REQUEST IN WRITING THAT A SUBJECT BE INCLUDED ON THE AGENDA.
A SUBJECT BE INCLUDED ON THE AGENDA.
SUCH REQUEST MUST BE SUBMITTED TO THE SUPERINTENDENT NO LATER THAN 4:00 PM THAT'S TALKING STRICTLY TO THE SUPERINTENDENT'S POSITION, RIGHT? SIX CALENDAR DAYS PRIOR TO THE DATE OF A REGULAR BOARD MEETING ITEMS SUBMITTED BY BOARD MEMBERS AFTER THE DEADLINE SHOULD BE CONSIDERED AT THE NEXT BOARD MEETING.
SO IF SIX DAYS BEFORE THE CALENDAR DAY, NO LATER THAN 4:00 PM IF YOU HAVEN'T GOTTEN IT TO THE SUPERINTENDENT, THEN IT GOES ON NEXT, IT GOES ON THE NEXT AGENDA.
IF TWO MEMBERS MAKE A TIMELY WRITTEN REQUEST FOR PUTTING AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA, THEN THE BOARD PRESIDENT MAY NOT FALL, FAIL, FALL TO INCLUDE THE ITEM WITHOUT A CONSENT OF THE REQUESTING BOARD MEMBER.
THAT'S THE FIRST HALF OF THAT.
AND THE SECOND HALF IS TRUSTEES RECEIVING AGENDAS OF A REGULAR MEETING ALONG WITH ALL SUPPORTING DOCUMENTATION AND SUPPORT THREE CALENDAR DAYS PRIOR TO THE MEETING DATE IN ELECTRONIC FORM.
YOU ALL THAT IS NOT CONTRADICTING ITSELF.
THAT CLARIFIES WHAT I ASKED, BUT LET'S KEEP IT MOVING.
YEAH, I BELIEVE THAT LAST THING STARTS WITH TRUSTEES.
THAT'S A FORMATTING ISSUE THAT SHOULD NOT BE UNDER BULLET THREE, BUT IT SHOULD BE A STANDALONE.
CAUSE WHEN LOOK AT POLICY, IT HAS NOTICE THE MEMBERS AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH HERE IT SAYS MEMBERS OF THE BOARD SHALL NOTICE AND MEANS AT LEAST SEND TWO HOURS PRIOR TO THE SCHEDULED TIME OF MEETING AND AT LEAST ONE HOUR PRIOR TO THE TIME OF THE EMERGENCY.
NUMBER FOUR CAN BE JUST STAND WHERE DO, WHERE DO YOU SAY NUMBER STARTING WITH TRUSTEES RECEIVE.
SO THAT'LL BE NUMBER FOUR AT THE STANDALONE IF YOU GUYS WANNA MAKE IT BEFORE.
MAYBE THAT RUN ON MADE IT LOOK LIKE IT WAS, I WOULD LIKE TO REFERENCE TO NUMBER FOUR.
BECAUSE I SENT AN EMAIL REQUESTING ITEMS BEFORE MEETING, SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS, AND I WAS REPEATEDLY EMAILED BACK TO REFERENCE TO POLICY, UM, OR I THAT IT DID NOT HAVE TO BE PROVIDED OR IT WOULD BE PROVIDED DURING THE MEETING.
BUT, AND I STRESS AGAIN THAT ANYTIME I ASK THE QUESTION, I HAVE READ POLICY, I'M
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VERY AWARE.BUT I CAN APPRECIATE THE NOTATION.
UM, FOR EVERYTHING THAT I ASKED FOR, I KEPT REFERENCE, I KEPT BEING TOLD I NEED TO READ POLICY AS IF I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT OR I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M DOING OR HOW TO ASK FOR SOMETHING.
UM, WHEN IT'S CLEAR THAT ALONG WITH ALL SUPPORTING DOCUMENTATION AND REPORTS NEEDED TO BE PROVIDED TO US AND ALL DOCUMENTATION WORK WAS NOT UPLOADED, NOT AVAILABLE OR UPLOADED AT THE LAST MINUTE AND OR GIVEN TO US DURING A MEETING, WHICH IS NOT OKAY.
ANYTHING THAT WE ARE TO, IN MY OPINION OR IN FACT ANYTHING THAT IS REQUIRING A SIGNATURE OR THAT HAS TO DO WITH A, A MAJOR LIKE BUDGETING OR WHAT HAVE YOU, UM, NEEDS TO HAVE SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS VERSUS US SHOWING, UM, VERSUS DURING THE MEETING GIVING SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO SIGN OFF ON RIGHT THEN AND THERE.
THAT IS TO ME VERY UNETHICAL TO PUT THAT RIGHT IN THE FACE OF SOMEONE WITHOUT BEING ABLE TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS PRIOR A DISCUSSION OR JUST THROWN IN OUR FACE.
BUT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHEN THESE, WHEN THIS IS NOT FOLLOWED.
WHEN YOU HAVE A NEW TRUSTEE COMING IN, POLICY IS NOT BEING FOLLOWED OR THERE IS THE PUSHBACK WHEN ANYTHING GETS ASKED FOR, THEN WHAT WOULD BE THE NEXT STEP OR DO THAT TO GO TO ETHICS? I, OKAY, WELL LET ME, LET ME SHARE WITH YOU, IF YOU CHOOSE TO TAKE IT TO ETHICS, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO DO THAT.
BUT I, I WANT TO SAY THIS PART, MS. WHITFIELD, SINCE I'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD, WHEN YOU AND I, I WAS REELECTED AND YOU WERE ELECTED.
I KNEW THAT WITHIN 72 HOURS, A BOARD POLICY HAS TO BE POSTED WITHIN 72 HOURS AWARE AGENDA.
BUT ALONG WITH THE AGENDA, WHEN IT'S POSTED, WHAT BOARD MEMBERS GET THAT THE PUBLIC DON'T GET IS THE BACKUP.
I UNDERSTAND TO IT, BUT IT'S NEVER THE ACTUAL SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS.
WELL, IT, IT, IT, IT, IT CAN'T, I DISAGREE WITH IT.
IT'S OKAY FOR YOU TO DISAGREE, BUT I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS NOT ON DAY, YOU HAVE TO BE FLEXIBLE FOR US TO PRESENT INFORMATION TO YOU.
IT HAS TO BE THE MOST ACCURATE.
AND IT'S NOT GOING TO ALWAYS BE 72 HOURS BEFORE.
SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO MAKE A CHANGE ON THAT DAY BASED ON VARIOUS DIFFERENT THINGS.
SO WHAT I'VE ASKED MY TEAM TO DO IS SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS GOING FORWARD, PUT DRAFT ON, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GONNA GIVE YOU 100% BECAUSE I WILL TELL YOU THERE WILL BE CHANGES EVERYWHERE.
I'VE BEEN, EVERY BOARD I'VE BEEN A PART OF, EVERY SCHOOL DISTRICT I'VE BEEN A PART OF.
I'M OBLIGATED TO GIVE YOU THE MOST CURRENT.
AND I'M, I'M AWARE, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, LET ME REFERENCE TO THAT.
WHEN YOU'RE POSTING THE AGENDA, AND THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS, UM, ARE THE SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS ARE NOT REQUIRED TO BE POSTED WITH THE AGENDA.
AND I, I WAS GONNA TO ANSWER THAT.
YOU ASKED THAT AT THE BEGINNING.
AND I, I QUESTION TO THAT IS, ONCE SOMETHING IS POSTED, MY UNDERSTANDING IS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE CHANGED.
I'M, SO, LET ME CLARIFY, LET, LET ME, LET ME SHARE SOMETHING.
UH, IT IS REQUIRED, I'M GONNA GO BACK FROM ELECTION.
IT IS REQUIRED WHEN A BOARD MEMBER IS FIRST ELECTED TO THE BOARD.
IT IS NOT, BECAUSE ACTUALLY WE DON'T KNOW WHO THE BOARD PRESIDENT IS GOING TO BE THROUGH THAT ELECTION UNTIL THAT CYCLE ACTUALLY FOLLOWED THROUGH.
BUT IT IS NOT FOR ME, NOT FOR NO OTHER BOARD MEMBER TO TELL A NEW BOARD MEMBER WHAT THEY SHOULD OR SHOULD NOT DO.
BECAUSE EVERYBODY WAS ELECTED ON THEIR OWN MERITS.
AND SO IN THE TRAINING, IT TELLS YOU SO MANY DAYS THAT NEW BOARD MEMBERS HAVE TO HAVE, IT'S MANDATED SO MANY DAYS AFTER ELECTED TO HAVE THE TRAINING.
I'M, BUT THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT THE AGENDA.
IT COVERS HOW THE WHOLE PROCESS.
AND SO I'M SAYING TO YOU, SINCE I'VE BEEN REELECTED AND HAVE GOTTEN AN AGENDA, I KNOW THAT THERE ARE TWO AGENDAS.
WHEN YOU GO TO THE FOR RIGHT, THAT'S ON THE WEBSITE, IT'S TWO AGENDAS.
IT IS THE PUBLIC NOTICE AND IT IS THE AGENDA.
ONE OF 'EM IS NOT GONNA HAVE ANYTHING FOR THE BOARD.
THE OTHER ONE, WHEN IT IS ALL UPLOADED, WHICH HAS TO COME FROM EVERY DEPARTMENT THAT MAY BE ON THE AGENDA.
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WELL, I'M TALKING ABOUT BOARD BOOK.OH, MAYBE I NEED TO SET BOARD BOOK BECAUSE MAYBE NOBODY KNOW THAT.
I'M ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT BOARD BOOK.
I KNOW YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW THE AGENDA'S ON THE WEBSITE TOO, SO I'M MAKE SURE YOU YEAH, YEAH.
CAUSE IT IS CLEAR IT'S ON BOARD BOOK.
BUT LET ME JUST SHARE SOMETHING.
IF WE WERE, WERE DOING SOMETHING WRONG, REMEMBER THIS, YOU ALL, WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO SAY IT.
REMEMBER WHAT I SAID EARLIER? I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE STATING.
SO I'M LEMME WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU SAY THAT THE DOCUMENTS ARE NOT ALWAYS PRESENT, DO YOU DO ACTUALLY LOG INTO BOARD? BOARD? I DO.
I'M NOT, 'CAUSE I DIDN'T, I KNOW I PRAY MORE.
I INITIALLY, I DIDN'T KNOW TO LOG INTO IT.
I WAS LOOKING AT WHAT GENERALLY COMMUNITY THE PUBLIC LOOKS AT, LOOKS AT.
NO, I'M AWARE WHAT THE PUBLIC LOOKS LIKE.
AND I AM AWARE, I PLEASE UNDERSTAND.
THIS IS NOT MY FIRST TIME TO THE BOARD.
I'M AWARE HOW THE BOARD, A BOARD OPERATES AND THE ACCESS OF WHAT HAVE YOU AND WHAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE, UH, YOU KNOW, IN THE GUIDELINES.
BUT MS. WOODFIELD, YOU DO KNOW.
YOU DO KNOW FOR A FACT THAT THERE IS NO WAY IN THE WORLD EVEN IN THERE'S NO WAY RIGHT THERE.
IF YOU ARE DEALING WITH IN THE BACK OF US AT THE DAS, IT SAYS IN REAL TIME, I'M AWARE THERE IS NO WAY THAT SOMEBODY CAN GIVE YOU REAL TIME IF THEY GOING TO POST IT 72 HOURS BEFORE TIME.
I'M TALKING, IT'S NOT REAL TIME.
I'M SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS AND I'M TALK.
THIS I'M SPEAKING OF THINGS IN DETAIL THAT I HAVE SEEN OR THAT I HAVE NOT SEEN THAT I'VE ASKED.
WELL, WE NEED WHAT YOU ARE NOT AWARE OF WHAT I REQUESTED VIA EMAIL.
CAN I ASK YOU THIS SINCE WE ARE IN THIS MEETING SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD CUZ YOU KEEP US ON TRACK.
MS. WHITFIELD, MOVING FORWARD, IF YOU SEE THAT THERE IS INFORMATION THAT IS BROUGHT TO THE BOARD BY ADMINISTRATION, CUZ IT WOULD ONLY HAVE TO BE BROUGHT BY ADMINISTRATION.
IT ONLY HAS TO BE BROUGHT BY ADMINISTRATION.
AND SO WHEN EACH DEPARTMENT SEND THEIR STUFF IN, SOMEBODY COULD HAVE HAD A DEATH.
SOMEBODY COULD HAVE HAD A CAR ACCIDENT.
ALL DUE RESPECT, MS. MORRIS UHHUH, I'M SPEAKING OF WHAT'S IN WRITING AND THAT'S WHAT I'M RE I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT SOMEBODY'S SITUATION OR WHAT HAVE TAKEN PLACE.
I'M TALKING ABOUT POLICY AND AS IT RELATES TO OUR MEETING.
SO, SO WITH NO REPORTING AS IT RELATES TO THE MEETING, IF THERE'S AN EXCEPTION TO A RULE, THEN IT NEEDS TO BE IN WRITING.
I I GOT YOU THE LEGAL, I GOT YOU.
I KNOW, BUT I, AND I'M GONNA TELL YOU SOMETHING, LAW WILL CHANGE.
I UNDERSTAND THAT
I I KNOW YOU I'M SPEAKING OF IS WHAT'S HERE IN WRITING, WHAT'S REFERENCE IN, UM, THAT'S WHY I ASKED AND I SPOKE WITH TY ABOUT AS IT RELATES TO WHAT'S IN THE GUIDELINES, BUT WHAT'S NOT BROKEN DOWN OR, SO I GUESS THERE'S AN EXCEPTION TO THE RULING.
IF THERE'S AN EXCEPTION TO THE RULE, THEN IT NEEDS TO BE IN WRITING.
BUT WHEN I'M, WHEN I'M ASKING IS THAT A RECOMMENDATION NEEDS TO BE THERE? IS THAT A RECOMMENDATION? SO MAYBE WE NEED TO ADD TO THAT, BUT THIS COMMITTEE HAVE TO BRING IT FOR CONSIDERATION.
I'M NOT GONNA STATE THAT WE NEED TO ADD, UM, NOT TO POST SOMETHING AS AN EXCEPTION TO THE RULE.
BECAUSE GUIDELINES LAW IS LAW GUIDELINES OR GUIDELINES.
SO WE ARE NOT DOING ANYTHING BUT FOLLOWING WHAT LAW IS AND TRICKLING IT DOWN.
BUT WITH THAT SAID, IF THERE'S AN EXCEPTION TO THE RULE PER LAW, THEN LET THAT BE.
BUT IF NOT, THIS IS STILL WHAT IT IS.
AND I STILL EXPERIENCE WHAT I EXPERIENCED.
BUT MOVING FORWARD, IT'S IN WRITING AND IT'S BEEN READ.
IF IT'S ANYTHING DIFFERENT, THEN IT, IT NEEDS TO BE SAID IN WRITING.
I'M NOT HEARING WHAT NOBODY ELSE IS SAYING UNLESS IT'S PRESENTING IT LIKE IN WRITING.
I AGREE BECAUSE I'M LIKE THAT TOO.
IF IT'S NOT IN WRITING, IT DIDN'T HAPPEN.
SO I'M ASKING YOU, DO WE NEED TO PUT IT BEHIND FOUR THREE TY BEHIND FOUR THREE.
TELL ME WHERE THE EXCEPTION TO THE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
CAUSE I I'M NOT, IF IT, IF IT'S NOT THERE AND IT'S NOT WRITING, HOLD ON.
I I KNOW I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE THAT CAN GET WHAT MISS WOODFIELD JUST SAY I THINK I'M OFF TRACK WITH Y'ALL.
THAT'S, LET'S JUST MOVE FORWARD.
CAUSE I'M TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING SPECIFIC AND I'M SEEING WHAT IT IS HERE.
AND OF COURSE NO ONE ELSE IS WANNA KNOW WHAT THE COMMUNICATION IS, BUT I JUST MADE A, A PUNCH.
I UNDERSTAND PERFECTLY WHAT YOUR POINT IS AND THAT, THAT'S AN IMPORTANT POINT.
WE MUST ACHIEVE CLARITY ON, OKAY, WE HAVE POLICIES, GUIDELINES, AND ALL THE REST OF THIS STUFF.
EITHER IT'S REQUIRED OR IT'S NOT.
YOU ALL DIDN'T, YOU DIDN'T HEAR CLEARLY WHAT DR.
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I WANNA ADDRESS, WE'RE NOT TO MAKE UP OUR OWN RULES FOR THE POLICY.WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT MAKING UP.
WHAT YOU GOTTA SAY, I RECOMMEND THIS POLICY DOESN'T NECESSARILY SPEAK TO POLICY SPECIFIES, UH, MEETING HAD TO BE POSTED.
BUT WE HAVE OUR OPERATING PROCEDURES SPEAKS TO IT BEING POSTING US GETTING ALL THE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.
SO WE CAN ADJUST THIS TO SPECIFY WE WANT ADDITIONAL INFORMATION WHEN IT'S POSTED.
AND I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN THE PREVIOUS MEETING CAUSE WHEN THIS CAME UP WAS SOMETIMES IF THEY DON'T HAVE INFORMATION AVAILABLE TO US, THEY CAN KIND OF PUT DRAFT, I THINK YOU SAID DRAFT.
NOW I'M MIGHT PUT SOMETHING IN THERE.
SO WE KNOW SOMETHING IS COMING.
BUT THAT'S NOT IT WITH YOUR PROBLEM.
IF YOU PUT SOMETHING IN THERE AND THEN YOU ADD TO IT, WELL THAT'S NOTS DRAFT.
CAUSE WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
I'M GONNA TELL ALL OF YOU HERE THAT THAT'S FULL DISCLOSURE.
CUZ AGAIN, I AM OBLIGATED TO GIVE YOU THE MOST RECENT AND I PRESENT SOMETHING TO YOU THAT HAS CHANGED THAT I'M NOT GIVING, I'M NOT DOING MY DUE DILIGENCE.
SO, UH, IF THAT MAKES YOU UPSET, I'M SORRY.
BUT IT IS WHAT IT IS IS I WILL GIVE YOU THEN IT THE MOST INFORMATION.
IF IT'S NOT READY THEN IT PROCEDURES, BUT WE DON'T, IT CAN'T BE.
I'M GONNA TELL YOU WHY DON'T HAVE TO BE NUMBER FIVE CAN BE.
SO WE ADD NUMBER FIVE AND COME TO SOME KIND OF DEGREE.
BUT NUMBER FOUR, AND POLICY DOESN'T SPEAK TO THE INITIAL DOCUMENTATION.
AND POLICY ONLY SPEAKS TO US POSTING THE MEETING.
IT SAYS NOTICE TO MEMBERS, MEMBER OF THE VOICE HAVE BEEN GIVEN NOTICE OF A REGULAR OR SPECIAL MEETING AT LEAST 72 HOURS PRIOR SCHEDULED TIME OF THE MEETING.
IT DOESN'T SPECIFY ANYTHING ABOUT INFORMATION BEING AND THAT'S FINE.
IS THIS LOCAL OR IS THIS LAW? THIS IS LOCAL LAW DOES NOT SPEAK LAW SPEAKS TO THE TIME PERIOD.
BUT YOU, YOU'RE REFERRING TO DOCUMENTATION, SUPPORTING DOCUMENTATION.
THAT'S, I'M THINKING OF WHAT'S HERE IN POLICY.
AND AS IT RELATES TO SUPPORTING DOCUMENTATION, WE CAN RESOLVE THAT.
WE GET WHAT I'M SAYING? WE CAN RESOLVE THAT.
BUT WHAT I'M HEARING IS THAT Y'ALL WANNA GO BACK AND CHANGE HOLD HOLD ON, LET ME STOP THIS AS A CHAIR.
CAUSE WE FINN MOVE FORWARD AND I'M GONNA TELL YOU WHAT WE'RE GONNA MOVE FORWARD ON.
I DIDN'T SAY WE NEED, I SAID WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD, BUT I WANT US TO HEAR WHAT I'M FINN TO SAY.
BUT BECAUSE WHAT I, IT DOESN'T MATTER.
LET EVERYTHING HOLD ON, HOLD ON.
YOU ALL WITH ALL DUE, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, I AM PROPOSING THAT WE AT THIS COMMITTEE CONSIDER EITHER ADDING FIVE OR ADDING AT THE SUPERINTENDENT DISCRETION.
THE SUPPORTING DOCUMENT COULD CHANGE.
NOT AT NO SUPERINTENDENT EXPRESSION.
AND, AND YOU'RE TELLING EVERYBODY HOLD ON AND CALM DOWN.
BECAUSE I'M TELL, I'M SAYING TO EVERYBODY, THE MEETING IS HELD FOR TWO REASONS.
THE MEETING IS HELD FOR THE SUPERINTENDENT, WHATEVER SUPERINTENDENT IS SITTING IN THE SEAT TO BRING INFORMATION TO THE BOARD IN REAL TIME AND ACCURATE.
NOW, IF THERE IS AN EMERGENCY OR SOMETHING HAPPENED, WE GET THAT IN TRAINING THAT THE SUPERINTENDENT AS THE SUPERINTENDENT DISCRETION COULD DO TWO THINGS.
THE SUPERINTENDENT CAN DESIGNATE A DESIGNEE TO PRESENT THE INFORMATION OR THE SUPERINTENDENT CAN PRESENT IT.
EVEN IT, DEPENDING ON WHAT INFORMATION IS.
BUT IT, IF IT IS SOMEBODY DONE SHOT A, A CHILD OR SOMEBODY DONE ROBB THE PAYROLL ON THE CAMPUS.
OKAY, YOU ALL, NOW I'M TALKING WELL, CAN I, CAN I ADD SOMETHING? YES, WE PLEASE.
I I GET EMOTION BY YOU GET EMOTIONS.
I UNDERSTAND YOU DO A LOT OF OUTBURSTS.
YOU OVER TALK, YOU DO A LOT OF THINGS, BUT THEN YOU SIT THERE, WE NEED TO DO, AND WHAT WE'RE DOING IS RIGHT OR WRONG.
AND YOU'RE QUICK TO REPORT TOO.
NO, I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T SAY THAT.
I'M, WHAT I DID THAT I'M SAYING IS YOU HAVE TO CONTROL YOUR EMOTIONAL MISS MS. WHITFIELD, LET ME JUST SHARE SOMETHING WITH YOU.
I WAS TRYING TO GET EVERYBODY'S ATTENTION SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD.
REMEMBER I ASKED YOU TO, LET'S STAY ON TRACK, MR. YOU AGAIN, YOU NEED, THE ONLY REASON WHY I STOPPED MR. JONES, TRUSTEES PAT JONES WAS BECAUSE I'M SAYING LET'S BE ABLE TO GET TO A POINT TO AGREE TO DISAGREE.
AND THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT I WAS DOING.
AND THIS IS PRECISELY WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT AT FIRST, WE ARE GOVERN BODY, WE
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ARE BOARD, WE'RE PROFESSIONALS, WE'RE ADULTS.SO WHAT DID YOU SUGGEST, RIGHT? WHAT DO YOU SUGGEST TO HANDLE MS. WHITFIELD CONCERN? BECAUSE SHE GOT A LEGIT CONCERN.
OKAY THEN SO HOW DO WE FIX IT? WELL, LOOK, IF I CAN SAY THIS, I, I THINK YOU FIX IT BY SIMPLY PUTTING THE VERBIAGE IN HERE THAT THE, THE INITIAL, UH, DOCUMENTS PROVIDED ADDRESSED AND THAT THEY'RE SUBJECT TO CHANGE.
YOU KNOW, AND THAT THE SUPERINTENDENT WILL AT HER BEST KEEP US UP TO DATE WITH THOSE, THE INFORMATION AT THAT TIME AT THE MEETINGS.
SO IF, IF MOST OF THESE DOCUMENTS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ARE LIVING, BREATHING DOCUMENTS, THEY'RE ALWAYS GONNA BE CHANGING.
SO I THINK WE, I THINK WE HAVE TO, WE'RE BEATING THIS DOWN BECAUSE I THINK ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS JUST PUT THE VERBIAGE IN THERE IS JUST SAY, THAT'S ALL I WAS SAYING.
THE SUPERINTENDENT WILL PROVIDE THE MOST CURRENT INFORMATION.
WE CAN FIGURE THAT VERBIAGE OUT.
BUT I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO KEEP ON, AND THAT'S THE ALL THAT'S ON DUE RESPECT.
I'M GONNA BE THE FIRST TO APOLOGIZE BECAUSE WHAT I'M SAYING, MR. STEVENS, MR. JONES AND MS. WHITFIELD, THE ONLY THING THAT I WAS TRYING TO SAY, LET'S GET TO A POINT TO AGREE TO DISAGREE.
PUT A LANGUAGE IN THERE THAT WE NEED OR ONE OF, ONE OF THIS COMMITTEE, ONE OF THESE BOARD MEMBERS DO A RECOMMENDATION TO THE FULL BOARD ON HOW IT SHOULD BE WRITTEN.
BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, IF WE COULD KEEP IN RESPECT THAT OUR MEETINGS ARE NOT JUST BOARD MEETINGS, THEY'RE BOARD AND SUPERINTENDENT.
WE ONLY REALLY MEET FOR ONE PURPOSE.
YOU ALL, AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE MEET FOR ONE PURPOSE.
AND THAT PURPOSE IS FOR US TO DO THE PLEDGE, THE THE CONSENT AGENDA.
AND THEN AFTER ALL THAT DONE, WE GET TO THE SUPERINTENDENT TO MAKE THE RECOMMENDATIONS.
I THINK WHAT YOU GOT, WHAT YOU GOT IS A VERY, VERY IMPORTANT POINT.
IF WE CAN'T AND WE WE GONNA CHANGE IT.
WHAT IS YOUR SUGGESTION? DO WE ADD FIVE OR DO WE CHANGE THE VERBIAGE? ADD FOUR SHOULD NOT CHANGE, WHICH MY UNDERSTANDING TRUSTEES RECEIVE THE AGENDA FOUR SHOULD NOT CHANGE.
BUT IF WE, IF, UM, IF A FIFTH NEEDS TO BE ADDED TO, UM, I GUESS, BUT THAT SHOULD REALLY BE A UNDERSTOOD.
OKAY, SOMEBODY PLEASE MAY I, AND I'M GONNA TELL YOU FOUR SHOULD NOT BE CHANGED.
ONE OF MY BIGGEST FRUSTRATIONS WHEN I FIRST JOINED THIS BOARD WAS YOU WALK UP TO THE, TO THE DAYS YOU SIT DOWN AND MAYBE YOU GET SOME DOCUMENTS, MAYBE YOU DON'T, BUT YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES TO, TO REVIEW IT BEFORE YOU HAVE TO VOTE ON IT.
AT WHAT TIME I RECEIVED, I RECEIVED THE, THE TAS B UPDATE.
YOU GET NO TIME TO REVIEW IT AND YOU GOTTA VOTE ON IT.
THAT THAT'S JUST WRONG ON EVERY LEVEL.
OKAY, HERE'S UPDATE ONE IN THE BOARD BOOK.
HERE'S, HERE'S, IT'S NOT MINE.
TASB SEND, I'M GONNA TELL YOU SOMETHING.
BECAUSE TA UPDATE DIRECTLY STAY ON THE POINT IS WHAT WE RECEIVE DOCUMENTS THAT NEED YOU.
PLEASE STAY, STAY WITH ME HERE.
THE THE POINT IS POLICY OPERATING PROCEDURES, THEY EXIST OR THEY DON'T EITHER.
IT SAYS YOU GOTTA PRESENT THE DATA 72 HOURS BEFORE THE MEETING OR IT DOESN'T.
SO IF YOU GOTTA PRESENT THE DATA 72 HOURS BEFORE THE MEETING.
DOES, UH, SAY THAT THIS UP HERE, IS THAT FLEXIBLE? HERE'S THE THING.
OUR MEETINGS ARE SET OUT A YEAR IN ADVANCE.
WE KNOW EXACTLY WHEN THEY ARE.
IF IT'S NOT READY FOR THIS MEETING, GET IT READY FOR THE NEXT MEETING.
PEOPLE HAVE TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR EXACTLY.
TRUSTEES HAVE TO HAVE THE DATA TO MAKE JUDGMENT ALL.
SO FORGIVE ME, BUT I DUE RESPECT DR.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE, IF IT'S NOT THES RIGHT, PUT IT ON HERE.
PERIODS, ALL INFORMATION, LET'S LET LETTY TODD HAVE HIS HANDS UP.
BUT WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND IS THIS, UH, WE TALKED ABOUT FOUR AGAIN, STRAIGHT LOCAL POLICY.
SO THE LANGUAGE FOR THAT WOULD BE WHAT IT SPECIFIES AS OPPOSED TO THE MEETING.
NUMBER FIVE WILL BE RELATED TO SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE CAN PLACE THERE IS DRAFT.
YOU KNOW, AND THE OTHER THING THAT WE DID FROM YEARS AGO WAS WHEN STUFF GOT UPDATED, WE ADDED AN ADDENDUM IN THE BOARD BOOK.
THEN THE EMAIL WAS SENT TO EVERYBODY.
SO IF SHE, FROM THAT THIRD DAY, SHE UPLOADS SOME INFORMATION AND WE GET SOME NEW INFORMATION 24 HOURS BEFORE THE MEETING THAT CAN UPLOAD THE END OF BOARD BOOK.
WE ALL GET A TEXT MESSAGE OR AN EMAIL SAY, HEY THERE'S
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AN ADDENDUM TO THE BOARD BOOK.THEN WE CAN BEGIN TO REVIEW THAT INFORMATION.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN ADD IN THERE.
THE OTHER PART IS IF WE GET TO THE BOARD MEETING AND YOU GUYS DON'T FEEL YOU HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION, ENOUGH TIME, MAKE A REQUEST TO TABLE THAT ITEM.
YOU DON'T FEEL YOU HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION REQUEST TO TABLE, BUT THAT REQUIRES A, THE MAJORITY.
BUT ONE THING THAT WE KNOW THAT'S, I JUST WANT, I WANNA SHARE WITH YOU TO ADD THIS, I WANT YOU TO ADD SOMETHING TO THAT.
WELL, YOUR POINT GONNA GET TO THIS ONE.
SO, UH, I THINK FOUR WILL REMAIN.
THIS POLICY IS WRITTEN AND THAT'S SPECIFICALLY SPEAKING OF POSTING OF THE MEETING.
I THINK WHEN WE GET, DID WE ADD THE POINT ABOUT THE SUPPORTING DOCUMENTATION, WHICH THAT'S NOT POSSIBLE.
THAT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT THE BOARD CAME UP WITH.
SO MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE THAT WE ADD THAT INFORMATION.
IF THEY GET SOME NEW INFORMATION RELATED TO IT, IT'S ALREADY POSTED.
THEY ADD THAT ADDENDUM, UPLOAD THAT IF POSSIBLE AND THEN WE GET A NOTIFICATION.
WE CAN THEN GO ON THE BOARD BOOK, REVIEW THE INFORMATION, SEND ANY QUESTIONS TO ADMINISTRATION PERTAINING TO THAT.
AND THEN IN EVENT IT GETS TO THE BOARD MEETING.
WE DON'T FEEL WE HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION, WE MOVE TO TABLE THAT I IS IT AND THEN IT GETS PUSHED TO THE NEXT MEETING.
IS IT, IS IT NINE? WE WON'T BE ABLE TO.
THAT REQUIRES IF, IF THERE'S NEED, IF ONCE SOMETHING IS POSTED AND ANY CHANGES NEED TO BE MADE, THEN IF YOU DON'T GO AND JUST CHANGE THE AGENDA, YOU HAVE TO MOVE IT TO THE NEXT BOARD MEETING POLICY ONLY SPEAKING TO THE AGENDA.
I'M SAYING WHAT I'M SPEAKING OF.
YOU'RE ASKING MY SUPPORTING INFORMATION.
I'M SPEAKING OF THE AGENDA AS WELL.
READ YOUR QUESTION ONE MORE TIME.
CAUSE MAYBE I'M MISUNDERSTOOD.
IF THERE NEEDS TO BE ANY CHANGES TO THE AGENDA PERIOD, IS IT NOT REQUIRED AFTER POSTING THAT UM, THAT ISSUE IS MOVED TO THE NEXT MEETING? NO.
THAT ONCE THE AGENDA IS POSTED, THAT IS THE AGENDA THAT WE MUST HAVE.
SO WE CAN'T CHANGE THE AGENDA.
THAT'S WHY I ASKED IF THERE'S ANY CHANGES, AUTHORITY, ANY CHANGES THAT NEED TO BE MADE TO, UM, WHATEVER IS POSTED ON THE AGENDA, THEN IT HAS TO BE MOVED TO THE NEXT MEETING.
LIKE SOMETIMES IT NEEDS TO BE PULLED AND MOVED.
SOMETIMES THE SUPERINTENDENT MAY SAY, WELL THESE PRESENTERS CANNOT COME TO THIS MEETING.
THEY'RE GONNA RESCHEDULE FOR, MAYBE THEY'LL LET US KNOW WHEN THEY CAN RESCHEDULE.
SO AT THAT TIME WE JUST SAY, BOY, WE'RE MAKING A CHANGE TO THE AGENDA.
WE'RE GONNA TAKE THE, WE'RE GONNA STRIKE THIS CAUSE PRESENTERS CANNOT COME.
WHEN YOU TABLE SOMETHING, YOU HAVE TO PUT A SPECIFIC DATE WITH A TABLE OF WHEN IT'S GONNA BE DISCUSSED.
BUT TAKING SOMETHING FROM THE AGENDA, YOU CAN JUST TAKE, REMOVE IT FROM THE AGENDA AND IT'LL COME BACK AT A LATER DATE.
I MEAN, IN MY MIND WE HAVE TO HAVE DEADLINES AND WE HAVE TO LIVE WITH DEADLINES.
I NEEDED TO ADD WHAT TY SO MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE NUMBER FOUR.
WE IDENTIFY THE NOTIFICATION, WHICH IS CURRENTLY WRITTEN IN LOCAL POLICY NUMBER FIVE.
WE HAVE SOME LANGUAGE SPEAKING TO, IN ADDEND IF EVERYTHING IS CHANGED AFTER THAT 72 HOUR POSTING.
THAT'S YOUR PROPOSAL FOR NUMBER FIVE FOR THE SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS.
NOW, FOR THE GENERAL ING SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS, WELL THEN THAT GIVES IT, THAT LEAVES IT OPEN FOR NO SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS TO BE AVAILABLE.
UH, IT BE PAT CAN I, WE CAN CHANGE THE LANGUAGE TOO.
SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS WILL BE POSTED, SEND YOU OUT.
BUT IF THERE ARE ANY CHANGES RELATED TO THOSE DOCUMENTS BEFORE THE BOARD MEETING AND ADDENDUM WILL BE ADDED TO BOARD BOOK AND WE'LL BE NOTIFIED.
SO IT NEEDS TO BE OFFICIAL SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS, NOT JUST ANYTHING THERE.
BUT, BUT, BUT CAN I SAY SOMETHING TODD? CUZ I WANNA ADD THIS TO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
THAT THAT CONCLUDES MY STATEMENT ON THIS ITEM.
BUT I, I WANTED TO INCLUDE SOMETHING TO YOUR STATEMENT BECAUSE THERE IS SOMETHING THAT WE CANNOT, IF SOMETHING HAPPENED AND WE ARE IN THAT MEETING, IF WE ARE IN A MEETING AT THAT TIME, AND THAT IS THE LAST MEETING FOR US TO DECIDE ON IT EITHER HAVE TO BE A VOTE UP OR DOWN, BUT IT'S GOTTA BE VOTED ON.
IF WE ARE IN THAT LAST EDGE AND IT'S GOTTA BE A TEA CUZ TEA GIVES US NO EXCEPTIONS.
NOW ON AN AGENDA, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY TO YOU ALL IS THAT THE AGENDA IS OUTLINED THE WAY THE AGENDA IS TODAY, WELL THIS AGENDA IS POSTED, BUT I COULD HAVE CAME IN HERE AS CHAIR AND SAID, I WAS NOTIFIED THAT WE HAVE SOMETHING WE NEED TO GO IN EXECUTIVE SESSION BECAUSE YOU ALL, WE DON'T MEET.
BUT ONCE A MONTH I WANTED TO PROPOSE SOMEWHERE WHEN WE END THIS TO PROPOSE TO THE BOARD, MAYBE WE
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CONSIDER HAVING WORKSHOPS.IF WE DON'T, THEN EVERY MEETING WE HAVE NEED TO BE EXECUTIVE SESSION IN CASE WE'RE IN A MEETING.
AND THE SUPERINTENDENT, CUZ I ALWAYS REMEMBER THESE MEETINGS ARE FOR THE REAL PURPOSE OF US HAVING A MEETING IS FOR THE ONLY PERSON WE HIRE.
IT'S A SUPERINTENDENT TO BRING US INFORMATION.
AND SO WE MAY BE HAVING A MEETING THAT A CRISIS IS GOING ON THAT'S GONNA TAKE US IN THE EXECUTIVE SESSION.
THEN THIS WHOLE AGENDA TONIGHT WOULD'VE CHANGED.
NO, IT WOULD NOT HAVE CHANGED.
WE WOULD'VE HAD, WE WOULD'VE HAD A NEED FOR CLOSED SESSION.
NO, WE WOULD'VE, WE HAVE CLOSED SESSION ON THIS ASCENT ON THIS AGENDA.
AND IF WE HAD TO MOVE THAT AND IT WAS AN EMERGENCY THAT WE MOVED THIS TO THE TOP, THEN OUR DISCUSSION NOW WOULD BE DELAYED IF WE WOULD'VE HAD AN ACTIVE SHOOTER.
YOU ALL, I THINK FUTURE WISE, THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
IF THAT WAS A SITUATION WE WERE TALKING IN EMERGENCY.
LET ME TELL YOU, CAN I TELL YOU WHERE I GOT THAT FROM YOU GOING WAY, WAY, WAY.
MS. WHITFIELD SAID ANYTHING ON THE AGENDA.
ON THE AGENDA ITEM CANADA CANNOT BE CHANGED AND IT CAN BE AFTER POST.
WHAT'S YOUR SUPPORT FOR THAT BE? IT CAN BE, I'M TELLING YOU IT CAN BE.
SO THE AGENDA HASN'T BEEN CHANGED.
WE JUST, IT JUST RESTRUCTURED.
BUT IT HAD BUT THAT, THAT IS FOR INDIVIDUALS THAT MAY HAVE CAME TO THE MEETING THAT DON'T KNOW WHAT WE ARE ACTUALLY DOING AND SAY WHAT ARE THEY DOING? BECAUSE THEY FIXING TO GO IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.
BUT THEN EXECUTIVE SESSION IS DOWN HERE, THE AVERAGE PERSON IS GONNA SAY THE AGENDA, WHAT'S CHANGED? SO I'M JUST MAKING IT CLEAR THAT'S WE CAN CASE BY CASE.
THAT'S NOT WE, WE CAN MOVE ON.
WE'RE GONNA DO A FIVE AND WE GONNA DO WHAT? TIRED.
WHAT WE NEED TO DO, WE NEED TO BRING THIS BEFORE THE BOARD, LET THE BOARD VOTE ON IT.
RIGHT? OH, THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING ALL DAY.
WE MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THE WHOLE THING.
WE NEED TO VOTE ON AREAS THAT THE TRUSTEES HAVE A PROBLEM WITH.
MAYBE IT'S A MISCOMMUNICATION.
WE IDENTIFY CHANGES AND THOSE CHANGES ARE OUTLINED AND THEN WHEN WE VOTE, WE BOTH, WE MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION RECOMMENDED CHANGES NOT THE ENTIRE DOC.
I'M, I DIDN'T GET THAT CLARIFICATION.
CAUSE I READ THAT AT THE BEGINNING.
YOU WANNA READ MY STATEMENT? MISUNDERSTOOD.
OKAY THEN SAY YOU MISUNDERSTOOD.
CAUSE I READ IT MISUNDERSTOOD.
CAN WE GO FORWARD? WE'LL DO WHATEVER CHANGES.
ONLY THING READ THE THING YOU SAID WHAT? BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS SAME THING.
MS. WE ARE ALL OF US AND RESPECT EACH OTHER'S QUESTIONS IN YEAH.
SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO YOU, YOU AND DON'T.
THE ONLY REASON DON'T DISMISS YOURSELF AND DON'T LET NOBODY DISMISS.
AND I'M NOT TRYING TO DISMISS YOU.
AM I REPEATING IT? OKAY MS. WOODFIELD, BECAUSE I'M NOT TRYING TO DISREGARD ANYBODY AROUND THIS TABLE BECAUSE EVERYBODY OPINION IS VALID AND I STATED THAT IN MY OUTLINE.
THAT WAS THE PURPOSE OF ME NOT, I CAN GO BACK AND REREAD IT.
I'M NOT GOING TO BECAUSE I KNOW YOU ALL HEARD ME, BUT WE ARE ONLY MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE BOARD, NOT IN THIS MEETING TONIGHT.
BUT WE GOTTA HAVE THE VERBIAGE, AS MS. HAMILTON STATED, WE HAVE, WE HAVE TO HAVE THE VERBIAGE TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION.
ANYONE DISAGREE WITH NUMBER FIVE? I DISAGREE.
WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE FOR IT TO BE? GIVE US AN ALTERNATIVE.
I THINK THAT SECTION WE MAYBE SHOULD DESIGNATE NUMBER FOUR IS FINE.
THEN NUMBER FOUR IS LIKE, IT IS, WE'RE NOT SAYING ALTER NUMBER FOUR.
WE ARE SAYING THAT MS. WOODFIELD HAVE A VALID CONCERN AND WE ARE ADDING NUMBER FIVE TO ADDRESS THAT.
WITH WHAT? IN FAVOR NUMBER FIVE.
OKAY, WELL JUST MY OPINION AND WITH NO, WITH NO SUGGESTION.
WHAT I'VE NOTICED GOING FORWARD IF Y'ALL HAVE ADDITIONS TO THINGS, IS EITHER YOU SEND IT OUT TO US IN THE EMAIL AND SAY THIS IS ADDITION TO BOARD BOOK OR IF SOMETHING'S PRINTED IT SAYS DS WHEN WE GET THERE.
SO THAT'S THE ALTERNATIVE MOTIVE TO THIS.
NUMBER FIVE THAT WE'RE GONNA SAY IT'S GONNA BE ADDENDUM OR EVERYBODY'S GONNA AGREE THAT YOU GONNA GET IT BY EMAIL.
MY THING IS TO WAS SAYING THIS MEETING, BRING IT NEXT.
IS THAT OKAY? CAUSE IT WAS YOUR RECOMMENDATION TO, IT'S NOT AVAILABLE IF THE DOC BEFORE THE AGENDA IS POSTED, IF THE DOCUMENT SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS ARE NOT AVAILABLE MM-HMM
BUT THE DOC, ALL THE DOCUMENTS ARE NOT ALWAYS NOT READY.
SOMETIMES YOU WAITING ON SOMETHING FROM THE AUDITOR
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OR THEY'RE WAITING ON SOMETHING TO GET FROM THE STATE TO GET TO DISTRICT BE DONE IN A TIMELY MANNER OR MOVE TO THE NEXT AGENDA.CAUSE SOME STUFF HAS A TIME RESTRAINT.
AND WE, BUT IF THEY'RE FAMILIAR WITH THAT TIME RESTRAINT, THEN IT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN CARE OF IN A TIMELY MANNER.
SO IT CAN BE THE DATE EVERYBODY HAS THE DATE.
YOU ALL, LET ME JUST SHARE SOMETHING WITH YOU BECAUSE WE MAY NOT EVER AGREE ON THIS, BUT WE GOTTA GET PAST THIS.
SO I SUGGEST, BUT WE ALREADY WE'RE GONNA VOTE ON THAT.
NO, WE CAN'T VOTE ON THAT IN HERE.
WE'RE NOT SAYING WE GONNA MAKE A RECOMMENDATION FOR THE BOARD, BUT I'M, BUT I'M SAYING BUT ONLY THING THAT I'M GONNA SAY AFTER THE BOARD VOTE, WE DON'T HAVE ANY DISCUSSION.
IF SOMEBODY HAVE, IF SOMEBODY HAS SOME CONCERN, LET'S BRING THE STATEMENT OFF.
WE, BECAUSE WE CAN'T COME TO, WE DECIDED THAT WE CAN PRODUCE A NUMBER FIVE.
EITHER YOU'RE IN FAVOR OF OR NOT.
BUT, BUT MR. STEVENSON, WHAT WOULD YOU DO IF YOU DIDN'T WANT THE NUMBER FIVE? YOU'RE SAYING LEAVE FOUR AS IT IS.
BUT MS. WHITFIELD, MS. WHITFIELD'S CONCERN WAS IF THE INFORMATION CHANGES, TAKE IT TO ANOTHER AGENDA TO THE NEXT MEETING.
AND I'M SAYING THAT THIS BOARD DON'T OPERATE AS A COMMITTEE, A SUBCOMMITTEE.
WE ARE ACTUALLY THE GOVERNED BODY.
WE UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING CAN'T GO TO ANOTHER AGENDA.
THAT WAS ALL I WAS TRYING TO SAY.
BUT IS THAT IMPORTANT FOR IT NOT TO BE MOVED TO ANOTHER AGENDA? THEN THE INFORMATION NEEDS TO BE AVAILABLE AND DONE IN A TIMELY MANNER BECAUSE THEY, EVERYONE IS AWARE OF THE NEXT MEETING DATE TO HAVE THOSE SUPPORTING ITEMS. OKAY.
VERSUS CONTINUE TO SUBMIT ITEMS THAT ACTUALLY NEED REVIEW, UM, BEFORE THE ACTUAL DATE.
SO MS. WHITFIELD, WHAT WOULD YOU SUGGEST IF, IF THE STATE TELL US WE CAME OVER TO ANOTHER AGENDA, WHAT DO YOU WE'RE NOT DOING? I'M NOT GONNA DO ALL THAT.
ALL I'M STATING IS THE FACTS THAT STILL STANDS IN FRONT OF US.
I'M TRYING TO, I'M TRYING TO GET PAST THIS NUMBER FIVE.
NEXT ITEM I JUST DONE SAID IT IS LEFT FOR OUR MEETING.
AND WE HAVEN'T EVEN GOT PAST PAGE.
PLACING THE ITEM ON THE AGENDA.
YOU ALL, IT HAS ALREADY BEEN DISCUSSED.
PLACE AN ITEM, UH, ITEM ON THE EMERGENCY MEETING AGENDA.
YOU ALL, I THINK THAT THAT'S ALREADY BEEN CLARIFIED IN OUR CONVERSATIONS RIGHT NOW.
ANYBODY HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT THAT? WELL THEN CLARIFY IT.
PLACE AN ITEM ON AN EMERGENCY MEETING AGENDA.
RIGHT? PLACE AN ITEM FROM LOCAL POLICY.
WE DON'T EVEN HAVE TO GO INTO THAT.
SO WHAT IS LABELED SAYS C BOARD POLICY D LOCAL.
WELL I'M JUST, I'M JUST GOING OVER IT BECAUSE MOST OF B AND C WE JUST DISCUSSED BECAUSE I HAVE IDENTIFIED THAT THE SUPERINTENDENT, CUZ IT'S PART OF HER MEETING AND IT COULD BE AN EMERGENCY.
THE REASON WHY WE CALL ON THE AGENDA, IT HAS TO BE A REAL EMERGENCY.
SO WE CAN MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S CLEAR.
AND READ THE BOARD PRESIDENT SHALL CALL SPECIAL MEETING THAT THE BOARD PRESIDENT.
I DID NOT PULL ALL LEGAL, I'M NOT READING IT.
TWO MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, THE BOARD'S SHALL CALL AN EMERGENCY MEETING WHEN IT IS DETERMINED BY THE BOARD PRESIDENT, TWO MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, ALL THE SUPERINTENDENT DEFINED BY LAW WARRANTS.
SO MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE THAT WE ACTUALLY NEED THAT.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT LIKE THE C BOARD POLICY DE LOCAL OR IT SHOULD BE BECAUSE WE HAVE NEWCOMERS LIKE MYSELF OR LIKE MR. UM, UM, COOL.
WHEN WE, WHEN WE GO AND WE READ POLICY, IT'S NICE TO HAVE SOMETHING TO REFERENCE BACK TO.
I MEAN I'M, THAT'S A LOT TO READ AND I HAVE AND SO TO, IF THERE IS SOMETHING SPECIFIC THAT IS LISTED, THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH HAVING THAT THERE TO REFERENCE BACK TO.
IT'S NOT STATING THAT A PERSON IS IGNORANT OR UNABLE OR WHAT HAVE YOU.
IT'S NOT LITERALLY CATEGORIZING A PERSON IS IS JUST NICE TO HAVE THAT REFERENCE THERE.
WHY NOT HAVE IT THERE? YOU MAY NOT NEED IT, BUT THE NEXT PERSON IT MAY BE USEFUL FOR.
SO IT MAY NOT BE JUST FOR YOU, IT CAN BE FOR ANYBODY.
I UNDERSTAND MY, MY ONLY POINT WAS THAT ALL THIS REDUNDANT STUFF IS JUST UNNECESSARY.
YOU KNOW WHAT HAVE EVERYTHING WE SAY THAT IT'S, WE SAY IT'S UNNECESSARY, BUT WHEN YOU GO BACK TO THIS BLUE PART, I HAVE BEEN DIS ALL OF THIS, EVERYONE NEEDS TO PRACTICE BECAUSE SOMEBODY HAS DONE THIS TO ME PERSONALLY DURING OUR MEETINGS.
BUT I'M NOT GONNA SIT HERE AND BE REDUNDANT.
BUT THERE ARE PEOPLE ON THIS BOARD THAT DO NEED TO READ THIS.
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OVER AND OVER AGAIN ON A DAILY BASIS.MS. WHITFIELD, I, I'M JUST TO BE POLITICALLY CORRECT, I SAID I'M GONNA SAY A THING.
YOU'VE DONE THE SAME THING TO ALL OF US.
OKAY GUYS, LOOK, WE NOT TO DO THAT.
AND YOU HAVE NOTHING TO SAY TO ME AT ALL.
THINK WE'RE GONNA DO THIS AGAIN.
WE'RE NOT, WE'RE GONNA DO IT AGAIN.
IT TAKES TWO TO DO THE PLEASE, PLEASE IT.
WE ARE HERE FOR THE CHILDREN AND WE GET TWO.
WE, WE GETTING, WE WE ARE GOING WITH FIVE.
WE GOT A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING THAT OUR AGENDAS, OUR MEETINGS ARE FOR TWO ENTITIES.
THE BOARD AND THE SUPERINTENDENT.
IF THE SUPERINTENDENT IS NOT PRESENT, WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE NO EFFECTIVE MEETING IT.
THE SUPERINTENDENT DON'T MAKE IT.
UM, YOU ALL, I'M NOT GOING TO DEBATE THAT.
WE NOT GONNA GET IN THAT DEBATE.
YOU KNOW WHAT I'M GONNA DO? I'M GONNA GO TO TA AND TELL TA TO WRITE THIS BOARD A LETTER.
TELL THEM THAT AND THEN WE GONNA CLEAR THAT UP AND THEN WE MOVE ON RIGHT NOW.
CAN WE MOVE ON? WE GONNA MOVE ON.
WE GONNA MOVE ON BECAUSE I'M, I'M, I'M GONNA JUST SAY I'M MOVING ON.
LET'S GET TO THE NEXT ONE THOUGH.
LET'S, LET'S WE NOT LET'S GET, LET'S GO TO THE NEXT AGENDA.
LET'S GO TO THE NEXT AGENDA, THE NEXT PART OF IT.
ANY, ANY PROBLEMS, ANY CONCERNS? I RECOMMEND WE TAKE WHATEVER'S IN POLICY PLACE HERE.
I I DON'T KNOW IF THE LANGUAGE MATCHES UP WHAT I'M LOOKING IT I B IT DOESN'T BACK.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY CONCERNS OR QUESTIONS? OKAY.
SO, UM, THE RECOMMENDATION IS TO TAKE WHAT'S CURRENTLY IN POLICY FOR DEFENDANT AGENDA ACTION ITEMS AND PLACE IT HERE.
IS THAT WHAT I'M HEARING? EXACTLY.
BUT IF, IF I CAN ADD I I AND USE, I'M GONNA USE THIS PAST BOARD MEETING AS AN EXAMPLE, UH, FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA.
I THINK IF I CAN REMEMBER I PULLED AT LEAST TWO ITEMS. ONE OF 'EM WAS, UH, THE LENGTH EDUCATION FOUNDATION.
AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CRITERIA YOU GUYS USED TO, TO GROUP 'EM ALL TOGETHER AND UNDER CONSENT.
BUT I, I THINK IT TAKES ME BACK TO A TIME WHEN I WAS NOT ON THE BOARD AND I DIDN'T HAVE THE INFORMATION THAT I SEE NOW.
IF I'M SITTING IN THE AUDIENCE AND WE GROUP ALL OF THESE TOGETHER AND I DIDN'T HEAR ANY DISCUSSION ON THE EDUCATION FOUNDATION.
I'M JUST USING THAT AS AN EXAMPLE AND THERE WAS A CONSENT VOTE AND IT WAS YES.
THEN I AS A CITIZEN DIDN'T KNOW THE DETAILS OF THAT VOTE.
SO I, I THINK WHAT I'M SAYING IS IF WE COULD BE A LITTLE BIT MORE SELECTIVE AND MAYBE WHAT GETS PLACED UNDER THE CONSENT FROM MY STANDPOINT IS ITEMS THAT ARE LIKE RENEWING THE CONTRACT.
SO THAT'S WHAT THAT IS FROM MY REGARD, FROM MY, FROM MY TEAM.
SO I, SO AGAIN, I, ONE OF THE THINGS I SAW WAS THE EDUCATION FOUNDATION AND I WOULD'VE LOVED IF I WAS SITTING ON THE OUTSIDE TO HAVE HAD A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION, YOU KNOW, ON THAT.
AND I THINK THERE WAS ONE OTHER, BUT BEFORE THE TIME SAKE.
TALK WHAT YOU AGENDA SHALL INCLUDE ITEMS OF A ROUTINE AND OR RECURRING NATURE GROUP TOGETHER.
AND SO YOU ARE REFERENCING THE EDUCATION FOUNDATION.
SO IT WAS CONSULTATION WITH THE LEGAL.
IT WE'RE UNDER, WE, WE ARE UNDER SO DETAILS TO THAT AND I'M HOPING EVERY BOARD MEMBER KNOW IT.
CUZ ANYTHING THAT'S UNDER LITIGATION, WE, BUT I'D LIKE TO JUST MENTION ONE OTHER THING GOING WITH WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
WHY CAN'T WE RELEASE THIS INFORMATION TO THE PUBLIC? WELL THE INFORMATION, ALL THE BOARD BOOK INFORMATION, IT'S, IT'S UH, IT'S OPEN RECORD.
IF YOU GO TO THE DISTRICT'S WEBSITE, AND I KNOW THIS BECAUSE BEFORE I WAS ON THE BOARD I LOOKED AT IT RELIGIOUSLY.
SO I, YOU CAN GO TO, YOU HAVE TO, IT'S SOMETIMES IT'S NOT THE EASIEST IN FINDING THE EASE OF FINDING INFORMATION AND THAT'S JUST NOT A, HERE I'VE, AFTER COMING FROM THE, THE SAN ANTONIO CONFERENCE, I ACTUALLY STARTED LOOKING BACK AT SOME OF THE SCHOOLS THAT WERE THERE TO KIND OF SEE HOW THEY WERE DOING SOME THINGS, YOU KNOW? UM,
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BUT IT, IT, IT'S, IT'S THERE.YOU JUST HAVE TO, TO GO TO THE BOARD TAB AND IT'S BOARD POLICY.
IT'S LISTED TO THE LEFT HAND SIDE.
SO THINK IT IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT FROM WHAT THE CONSULT NO, NO, NO.
IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S THE SAME IDENTICAL LOG IN TO GET MINE.
IF YOU GO TO THE DISTRICT'S WEBSITE AND GO ONTO THE BOARD TAB, YOU GO TO SBY AND TYPE LANCASTER ISD AND GET IT.
YOU CAN GO TO D THET WEBSITE AND TYPE IN LANCASTER ISD AND GET OUR POLICY.
YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO GO THROUGH OUR WEBSITE.
WELL ONE OTHER POINT, I THINK THE ITEM THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO, I PUT THE AGENDA MM-HMM.
AND TYPICALLY DONATIONS CAN GO INTO CONSENT CAUSE WE JUST ACCEPTING THAT.
BUT, BUT THINK WHAT YOU'RE TY TO IS THAT CAME FROM EDUCATION FOUNDATION IN THE MEETING.
BUT TYPICALLY JUST A DONATION COMING FROM LIKE THE KICKSTART, SOME OF THOSE OTHER THINGS THAT WERE THERE.
THAT'S WHERE IT KIND FALLS UNDER THAT PARTICULAR OKAY.
AND I THINK WHEN YOU PULL THAT, IT WAS STATED, UM, EVERYBODY HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO STATE THEIR POSITION AND IT WAS STATED AND WE MOVE ON AND IT WENT ON TO PASS.
UM, FOR, UH, AS FAR AS THOSE ON THE COMMITTEE, IF YOU WOULD GO THROUGH AND IDENTIFY HERE THAT YOU WANT HAVE CHANGE, SUBMIT THOSE TO THE CHAIR, YOU GUYS THE NEXT MEETING.
AND THAT MEETING WOULD BE A LOT MORE EFFECTI.
THANK YOU TY, FOR SAYING THAT.
BUT TRUST ME, I HAVE EVEN SENT AN EMAIL TO EVERYBODY TO DO THAT.
I'M JUST SAYING TO YOUR COMMITTEE MEMBERS ONLY CAUSE THE REST OF US WILL GET, HAVE THE, THEREFORE YOU SAID WE WEREN'T GONNA DO THAT.
WE HAD TO RECEIVE, READ EVERY SINGLE PAGE.
YOU SAID WHAT? YOU SAID WE HAD TO READ EVERY SINGLE PAGE.
I DID NOT SAY THAT MR. STEVEN SAY THAT.
I SAID THAT WE WERE, LET ME TELL, LET ME SHARE IT.
PLEASE FEEL FREE TO MAKE ANY SUGGESTIONS THAT THE COMMITTEE MEMBER FEELS THAT IS IMPORTANT FOR THE BOARD TO UNDERSTAND FOR THE PURPOSE OF OUR MEETING.
THAT WAS ONE THAT I SAID, AND I SAID, OUR GOAL IS TO COVER EACH PAGE UNLESS THIS COMMITTEE DECIDE OTHER THAN THERE ARE NO NEEDS TO BE SO DETAILED.
SO MS. MS. MOORE, I ASKED YOU, I SAID, SO ARE WE, OR ARE WE NOT GONNA GO OVER THIS IN DETAIL? AND YOU SAID YES.
I SAID, YOU ARE CORRECT MS. WOODFIELD.
I SAID YES BECAUSE THE BOARD DIDN'T SAY NO.
SO IF THE BOARD WOULD'VE SAID NO, THEN IT WOULD'VE BEEN NO.
SO DO YOU NOT WANNA GO THROUGH THIS? I KIND OF SAID NO.
I WAS PREPARED TO COME THROUGH AND GO FROM WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE AND BASED ON CERTAIN QUESTIONS.
I MEAN, SO, SO HOLD HOLD ON AT THIS POINT, I MEAN WE JUST MOVE FORWARD.
WE HAVE 15 MINUTES TO, SO MS. MS. MORRIS, NO, WE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE ANOTHER MEETING.
I, THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING.
BUT CAN WE STILL MOVE FORWARD AND THEN WE CAN JUST SAID IT TOOK A LONG TIME TO PUT THIS GARBAGE TOGETHER.
IT'S GONNA TAKE A LONG TIME TO MAKE IT MAKE SENSE.
MR. STEVENSON, REFER BACK, REFER BACK TO THAT.
SO WE GONNA DO A FIVE? THANK YOU.
SO WE ARE ON E IS THERE ANY, UH, BOARD MEMBER PREPARATION FOR, UH, REGULAR MEETINGS? EACH TRUSTEE WILL PREPARE TO ADDRESS THE AGENDA, UH, BY READING AGENDA PACKET MATERIAL IN ADVANCE OF THE MEETING.
THAT'S THE REASON WHY YOU NEED ALL DOCUMENTS IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT AND BE PREPARED FOR THE MEETING.
BUT, BUT, BUT, BUT TO THAT, YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU AND YOUR STAFF, DR.
PERRA, Y'ALL ARE DOING THE BEST THAT YOU CAN IN HAVING THAT INFORMATION.
BUT I WILL SAY TOO, SOMETIMES IT'S LEGAL, SO IT'S NOT SOMEBODY THAT I CAN HOLD ACCOUNTABLE.
ASK MONA WHAT I DO WITH MY STAFF WHEN WE DON'T HAVE STUFF IN.
WELL, AND I, AND I I CAN ONLY IMAGINE.
BUT I, I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR.
UM, I MEAN I HEAR WHAT MS. WHITFIELD'S SAYING, BUT I, BUT I ALSO WANT TO, TO TO, TO HAVE THAT ASSURANCE THAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING WHAT YOU CAN.
WE ARE, AND THE THING IS, IS THAT, I DIDN'T HAVE TO TAKE AN OATH HERE, BUT I'VE TAKEN AN OATH TO THIS IN THE PAST AT MY PREVIOUS, I DON'T KNOW WHY TEXAS DOESN'T MAKE YOU TAKE AN OATH.
BUT I STILL TAKE THOSE TO, TO MY HEART AND THAT I WILL GIVE YOU THE MOST ACCURATE INFORMATION AT THE BOARD MEETING.
NOT NECESSARILY WHAT I'VE POSTED.
THERE CAN BE SOME ADDITIONS TO IT.
AND I'VE GOTTEN THINGS, MONA'S GOTTEN THINGS FROM CHARISSA 10 MINUTES BEFORE THE MEETING STARTS AND SAYS, MAKE A COPY.
AND WHAT DO I SAY TO HER? MY BOARD WANTS IT BEFORE.
I CANNOT, I DON'T, I CAN'T HOLD HER ACCOUNTABLE.
I DON'T HAVE ANY, YOU SHOULD TOTALLY HER BRING IT TO THE NEXT MEETING.
UH, I I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
BUT WHAT I'M SHARING WITH YOU, SOMETIMES IT'S RELATED TO WHAT YOU ALL NEED TO DISCUSS.
SO AGAIN, THERE ARE CIRCUMSTANCES.
EVERYTHING IS NOT BLACK AND WHITE IN HERE.
IT'S GOING TO BE SOME CHANGES.
TEA MIGHT EMAIL ME TOMORROW AND SAY, GET THIS ON YOUR NEXT AGENDA.
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WOULD BE SOMETHING THEY SAID NEXT AGENDA.BUT ALSO THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE, IF TEA SAYS IT, IF IT'S LAW, THEN THAT'S THE EXCEPTION.
JUST BECAUSE, UM, MAINTENANCE DIDN'T HAVE SOMETHING TOGETHER OR BUDGET.
THESE ARE THIS THAT IS JUST, WELL, I'M GOING TO, BUT I CALLED THE FLEXIBILITY BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT I KNOW THAT THEY TOO ARE TRYING TO GIVE YOU THE MOST ACCURATE INFORMATION.
WHAT I WOULD NOT WANT TO DO IS GIVE YOU INFORMATION AND THEN HAVE TO CHANGE IT AND WAIT A WHOLE NOTHER MONTH FOR THINGS THAT WE KNOW WE NEED TO GET IN NOW.
SO I I I, AGAIN, WE'RE JUST GONNA CONTINUE TO DISAGREE ON THAT BECAUSE I'M SHARING WITH YOU TODAY AND ALL YEAR.
I WILL NOT HAVE, IT HAS TO BE IN REAL TIME.
BUT I WILL SAY I CAN, I WILL SAY THAT THAT'S WHAT I REFERENCE POLICY.
SAY, IF POLICY DOESN'T SAY ALL ITEMS NEED TO BE ATTACHED, THIS IS OPERATING PROCEDURES.
THIS IS NOT POLICY, ALL SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS.
THERE'S OPERATING PROCEDURES CONTROL THAT ARE BASED ON THE POLICY.
THIS IS NOT, TELL ME THINGS SHOULD BE TRACKED.
I'M JUST TELLING YOU WHAT THIS NOT POLICY.
THIS IS INTERPRETATION OF IT, NOT POLICY.
PERRERA SAID TWO THINGS THAT I WANTED TO BRING TO THE COMMITTEE.
ONE, IF, IF THIS COMMITTEE CAN LOOK AT AND CONSIDER DR.
PERRERA TAKING AN OATH TO THIS DISTRICT BECAUSE WE HAVE THAT CHOICE TO DO I STILL, AND THE OTHER ONE.
AND THE OTHER ONE IS, IT'S IN MY CONTRACT.
I, I I WANT, I WANT TO SAY THAT I AGREE WITH MS. WHITFIELD, BUT WHAT I DON'T AGREE WITH MS. WHITFIELD WITH, SO I HAD TO SAY I AGREE.
FIRST TO SAY I DON'T AGREE TO IS BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME THINGS, AND I'M REPEATING MYSELF FROM TIME AFTER TIME.
TONIGHT IS SOME THINGS WE CANNOT TAKE TO THE NEXT BOARD MEETING.
THERE ARE SOME THINGS WE CANNOT.
AND SO IF WE UNDERSTAND THAT WE SHOULD BE ALL IN AGREEMENT THAT WE ARE, WE YOU CAN EXPECT REAL TIME AND WANT REAL TIME ALL THE SAME UNDER THE SAME UMBRELLA.
IT JUST WON'T WORK BECAUSE SOMEBODY HAS TO BE FLEXIBLE IN EVERYTHING IN LIFE.
YOU ALL, NOW WE AS AN ADULT GO HOME.
YOU CAN WALK THROUGH YOUR FRONT DOOR AND LIKE YOUR WHOLE LIFE WILL CHANGE.
MS. UM, MORRIS PROCEDURES ARE PUT IN PLACE FOR A REASON AND ARE THEY NOT? AND THAT'S WHAT WE ARE DOING, PUTTING IT IN PROCEDURES.
AND WE WE'RE PUTTING FIVE FOR REASON.
I'M NOT, I'M NOT, WE'RE NOT STATING WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH FIVE OR NOT PER SE MM-HMM.
BUT WHAT I'M STATING IS PROCEDURES IS PUTTING AND PUT IN PLACE FOR A REASON.
OKAY? SO WE EITHER GOING TO FOLLOW PROCEDURE OR WE ARE GONNA TRASH IT.
BUT TO STATE THAT WE HAVE POLICY AND OUR LOCAL POLICY AND PROCEDURES AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO THINGS MM-HMM.
AND THEN SOMEONE CAN GO, OH, YOU KNOW WHAT, I'M NOT GONNA DO THAT.
OR I DON'T HAVE TIME FOR THAT.
OR THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT TAKES UP TOO MUCH OF MY TIME.
WE, WE WE, WE ARE NOT OUR NEXT RECOMMENDATION.
MONNET, WOULD YOU PUT THIS DOWN? IS THAT THE BOARD CAN CONSIDER TO DO NOTHING THE BOARD CAN CONSIDER TO DO WHAT? TO DO NOTHING.
NOTHING WITH WHAT? NOTHING WITH WHAT YOU JUST STATED.
WHAT DID YOU JUST TELL US? I WHAT I THAT A BOARD THAT THAT BOARD MEMBER CAN COME AND JUST CHANGE A POLICY.
I SAID YOU, I'M NOT STATING OKAY.
THE WAY, MAYBE I MISUNDERSTOOD IT.
WE HAVE POLICY IN WE HAVE POLICY IN PLACE.
AND NOT FOR NO ONE TO JUST COME AND SAY, OH, WE CAN JUST CHANGE IT.
YOU KNOW, I'M NOT, NOT THAT THEY'RE GONNA CHANGE IT, BUT THEY'RE NOT GONNA FOLLOW MAKE THE CHOICE TO NOT TO FOLLOW THAT MM-HMM.
AND YOU FEEL THAT THAT'S THAT'S HAPPENING NOW WITH US? IT'S BEEN HAPPENING.
SO HOW DO YOU WANT, HOW DO YOU WANT US TO GET PAST THIS ISSUE? I'M JUST BECAUSE, BECAUSE MS. WHITFIELD, YOUR QUESTIONING CONCERNS ARE VALID.
I KNOW, BUT WE GOT TO BE ABLE TO GET PAST IT.
WHERE YOU CAN BE ABLE TO BE A ACTIVE PARTICIPANT THAT WILL CONTINUE TO BE ACTIVE WITH, WITH CONFIDENCE THAT WE ARE ALL GONNA WORK TOGETHER AND WE ARE ALL ON THE SAME TEAM.
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HOW ARE WE GONNA GET THERE? BECAUSE WE HAVE TO.FOR ME, THAT'S NOT JUST FOR ME.
THE POINT IS TO FOLLOW POLICY AND PROCEDURES.
WELL, I'M, I'M, I'M ASSURE THIS WITH YOU.
BUT I'M ASSURED SOMETHING ELSE WITH YOU.
UH, OUT OF THE YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN ON THIS BOARD, EVEN THE JUDGE CAN SAY THAT I HAVEN'T FOLLOWED POLICY AND PROCEDURE, NOR NOR HAVE I SIT IN A MEETING OTHER THAN THE PAST BOARD COLLECTED FOUR MEMBERS THAT DID WHAT YOU EXACTLY EXPRESSED WHILE AGO.
AND WE ARE TRYING TO MOVE FORWARD AND NOT DO THAT.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE, I DON'T, I, UM, YES.
BUR, THIS IS REFERRING BACK TO WHAT YOU SAID EARLIER WHEN YOU SAID THIS IS OPERATING PROCEDURES, IT'S NOT A POLICY.
THEY'RE BASED ON POLICY OR INTERPRETATION AS A BOARD.
SO WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE? IS, UH, POLICIES REQUIRED AND OPERATING PROCEDURES OR NOT? NOT NECESSARILY.
THIS IS WHAT THIS DOCUMENT IS.
SO IT'S YOUR, YOUR DECISION AS A BOARD AS TO HOW YOU GONNA OPERATE.
BUT THIS IS, THIS IS, THIS IS INTERPRETATION OF POLICY BY THE LOCAL CONTROL, WHICH IS YOU ALL.
SO MS. STEVENSON, WOULD IT BE YOUR, YOUR, YOUR THOUGHT BACK? I DON'T THINK HE WAS GET RID OF, I GOTTA KEEP GOING, GET RID OF THIS.
AND WE JUST FOLLOW WHAT POLICY TELLS US.
BUT THEN, THEN THERE, BUT AT THE SAME TIME IN POLICY, UH, WHEN WE TALKING ABOUT LAW, THERE IS NOT, THERE IS NO BREAKDOWN.
THERE IS NOTHING THAT LITERALLY STATES IT'S, IT HAS LAW, BUT THEN THE BREAKDOWN AS IT RELATES TO LOCAL AND HOW WOULD WE GO ABOUT, YOU KNOW, IMPLEMENTING THAT OR MAKING SURE EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS WHAT THAT MEAN ON A LOCAL LEVEL.
THAT'S, THAT'S A, THAT'S AN INDIVIDUAL.
THAT'S, THAT'S FOR AN INDIVIDUAL BECAUSE THERE ARE, THERE IS LAW.
I CAN HONESTLY TELL YOU THERE IS LAW.
UNDERSTAND THERE IS, AND IT'S BROKEN DOWN FOR WHAT WE ARE SUPPOSED TO DO.
MY ONLY POINT IS PLACE FOR THAT TO BE, WOULD BE IN POLICY AS OPPOSED TO HERE, AN ADDITIONAL DOCUMENT IS NOT NECESSARY.
WELL, AGAIN, I'M GONNA GO BACK TO ANOTHER CONSIDERATION.
CONDENSE THE POLICY WHERE THEY GOT LEGAL, ONE SIDE LOCAL ON THE OTHER.
IT'S EVEN BETTER BECAUSE WHERE YOU HAVE A LEGAL, YOU HAVE LEGAL, AND THEN YOU HAVE LOCAL, MORE PRECISELY WITH WHAT WE GOT, IT WOULD'VE TO BE LEGAL, LOCAL, AND THEN OPERATED PROCEDURES.
BUT ACTUALLY, HAVE YOU SEEN THE FEDERAL LAW? THE FEDERAL LAW IS THREE CATEGORIES.
IT'S THE FEDERAL LAW, THE LOCAL LAW, AND THE ADMINISTRATIVE LAW.
AND EACH ONE OF THEM, YOU GOTTA UNDERSTAND THE MAIN REGS IS THE FEDERAL LAW.
AND SO IF YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THE FEDERAL LAW, THE OTHER TWO YOU'LL NEVER GET.
THIS IS HERE IS ONLY THE ADMINISTRATION.
THIS COVERS ALL ADMINISTRATION, ALL GUID GUIDANCE OF THE BOARD AND BOARD GOVERNANCE AND ALL OF THAT'S IN THIS BOOK.
IF YOU DON'T WANT TO TAKE THE TIME OUT TO READ IT, WE GONNA ALWAYS BE IN CONVERSATION ABOUT IT.
WE'RE GONNA ALWAYS BE, AND BECAUSE IT'S UP ON, BUT ON EVERY ONE OF THESE ADMINISTRATIVE LAWS, THE AGS OFFICE HAVE GIVEN AN OPINION.
AND THE OPINIONS ARE ALWAYS AT THE BOTTOM.
AT THE BOTTOM WITH ALL OF THESE CITATIONS.
YOU WILL ALWAYS FIND A AGS OPINION ON A LAW.
ESPECIALLY WHAT WE TALKING ABOUT NOW.
THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN TRYING TO TELL EVERYBODY.
THAT MR. STEVENS, I SENT, I SENT YOU, I CAN PULL UP MY TEXT THAT I SENT YOU WHEN YOU FIRST GOT ON THE BOARD, THAT ALL OF THIS WAS ORDERED FOR YOU AND YOU NEVER GOT IT.
SO DID YOU PURSUE MY TEXT THAT I SENT YOU? NO.
SO YEAH, BUT THIS IS ADMINISTRATIVE LAW.
THIS IS ADMINISTRATIVE LAW AND THE POLICY IS ONLINE.
BUT WHEN I WAS SAYING MONAY, THE, THE ALTERNATIVE FOR CONSIDERATION IS DO NOTHING THAT'S STILL STAYING YOU, THAT COULD BE PUT FOR CONSIDERATION.
AND I'M MAKING THAT TO DO NOTHING TO, TO DO NOTHING TO NONE OF THIS.
SOMETHING CHANGE HAS BE MADE IS NOT ACCEPTABLE.
BUT IF WE CAN'T NOT COME, IF WE CAN'T WORK TOGETHER AS A TEAM AND GOING TO SPEND FOUR OR FIVE MEETINGS GOING BACK, GOING AND, AND ATTACKING EACH OTHER, WE NOT GONNA FORGET ANYWHERE.
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HAVEN'T, LET'S GO WITH WHAT MR. STEVENS SAID.LET'S JUST GO WITH WHAT THE LAW SAYS AND FORGET.
CAUSE I'M A LEGAL PERSON ANYWAY.
NO, THAT'S, THAT'S NOT EXACTLY WHAT I SAID.
WHAT I SAID WAS INSTEAD OF HAVING THREE DOCUMENTS PAIRED DOWN TO TWO ITEMS THAT WE PUT HERE THAT AREN'T IN, THERE'S ITEMS HERE AREN'T LEGAL OR LOCAL.
AND IF WE FEEL LIKE WE NEED IT, WE CAN PUT IT IN LOCAL.
SO LET ME JUST SHARE SOMETHING WITH YOU.
YOU CAN'T CHANGE LOCAL BECAUSE LOCAL IS THE REFERENCE TO LEGAL.
YOU CAN ONLY CHANGE WHAT THE BOARD.
SO OUR, I THINK WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, MR. STEVENSON, OUR LOCAL POLICY, WE HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY OR SHOULD HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY OF LOCAL AS LONG AS, AS LONG AS IT'S WITHIN THE GUIDELINES OF THE, THE LAW, RIGHT? I MEAN, I, I DON'T KNOW.
I DUNNO HOW TO EXPLAIN THAT MORE SUCCINCTLY.
IS THAT WHAT YOU WANNA PROPOSE? PROPOSE, UH, SIDE BY SIDE REFERENCE FOR THE BOARD AND THE GUIDELINES.
I'D LIKE TO PROPOSE TO THE BOARD AS A WHOLE.
AND FURTHERMORE, OKAY, CONSIDER THIS, THIS DOCUMENT WAS CREATED.
I THINK, HOLD ON, DON'T WORRY ABOUT THIS DOCUMENT.
I WANNA KNOW WHAT, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO PROPOSE FOR MONA TO PUT DOWN AS A LIST SO WE CAN COMPLETE THE NINTH AS A LIST.
YOU WANT A TWO SIDE BY SIDE OR YOU WANT THE THIRD? YOU DON'T WANT A THIRD.
WHICH WOULD BE PREFERABLE TO ME.
BUT DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE THIRD IS? THE THIRD THE IS FEDERAL? NO, THE THIRD.
THE THIRD THAT WHAT HE'S REFERENCING, MS. MORRIS, IS THE, THE GUIDELINE IN ITSELF.
HE'S SAYING THAT WE HAVE LEGAL, WE HAVE LOCAL, NOW WE HAVE THIS THIRD ONE, WHICH IS BASICALLY WHAT LEGAL OR WHAT LOCAL SHOULD BE SAYING IS WHAT MR. IF I'M WRONG, STEVEN.
SO HE WANTS TO ELIMINATE THIS
AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I TOLD MONAY AT FIRST THAT NOBODY HEARD ME.
LET'S NOT, I THINK WHEN YOU SAY DO NOTHING, DO NOTHING WOULD BE LEAVE IT LIKE IT IS.
STEVENSON IS SAID SAYING, LETS GET RID OF THIS DOCUMENT WAS CREATED IN 2019.
HOLD ON A SECOND, JUST I'M SORRY.
SO THIS, THESE THINGS WERE, WERE ENFORCED BY THE BOARD THAT WAS HERE AT THAT TIME.
THIS IS YOUR CHANCE TO CORRECT ANY OF THESE THINGS TO CHANGE OR WHATEVER, ELIMINATE THE WHOLE THING.
BUT ASTY JUST READ, AND I'M GONNA GO BACK TO NUMBER FOUR.
AND A SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS IS NOT LAW.
SO IF YOU WANT THAT, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A DOCUMENT LIKE THIS SAYING THAT YOU WANT THAT.
SO YOU TELL ME WHAT YOU WANT TO DO BECAUSE I CAN TELL YOU, AND I CANNOT SPEAK FOR MY PREDECESSOR, BUT WHAT I KNOW IS HE DID THE AGENDAS.
I GO BY WHAT TA SAYS, I HAVE TO REPORT TO YOU THAT MONTH AND THEN WHATEVER YOU NEED.
AND SO FOR ME, AND I'M ALSO GONNA GIVE YOU THE MOST ACCURATE INFORMATION, I THINK THESE TWO LADIES CAN ATTEST TO THE FACT THAT YOU CAN GIVE THEM THE INFORMATION THAT YOU EVEN NEEDED TO MAKE A DECISION.
SO I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU, IT MAY NOT LIKE THAT, BUT I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU THE MOST ACCURATE INFORMATION THAT I HAVE.
AND NOT AGAIN, I'M, I'M, I'M TELLING YOU, IT'S, IT HAS TO BE THAT WAY CUZ IT CAN'T BE RIGID.
THINGS WILL CHANGE AND I CANNOT BRING TO MYSELF NOT TO GIVE YOU THE MOST ACCURATE INFORMATION.
SO YOU ADDRESSED THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM.
THIS DOCUMENT, 2019 IS A PRODUCT OF PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION.
THE BOARD, NOT THE ADMINISTRATIVE.
IT WAS THE BOARD UNDER THE GUIDANCE OF THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION DICTATED EVERYTHING TO THE BOARD.
THE THINGS IN HERE IS WE CAN CHANGE IT.
WE'RE NOW, THAT'S WHAT I MADE THE RECOMMENDATION, WHAT YOU SAID.
LET ME OFFER SOMETHING ELSE TO YOU.
INSTEAD OF GOING THROUGH PICKING EVERY SINGLE ITEM OUT AND DECIDING WHETHER IT BELONGS OR NOT, WHY DON'T EACH OF US DECIDE WHAT WE THINK IS IMPORTANT AND SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN OPERATING PROCEDURES? OKAY.
EVERY AFTER JUST PLEASE HEAR ME OUT AND AFTER EVERY ELECTION CYCLE OR WHATEVER SCHOOL YEAR OR SOMETHING, EACH BOARD DOES ITS OWN OPERATING PROCEDURE.
WE DON'T DEPEND ON ANOTHER BOARD FOR SOMETHING TO CARRY OVER.
I WOULD, I WOULD ADD RATHER THAN SUBTRACT.
MR. STEVENS, LET ME SHARE SOMETHING WITH YOU.
OH, WHAT IT COULD BE DONE IF YOU MAKE THAT SUGGESTION FOR THE BOARD TO VOTE ON IT, BUT BY LAW, BY LOCAL POLICY, BY THIS, THIS SHOULD BE REVIEWED EVERY YEAR ANYWAY.
BECAUSE AN ELECTION CYCLE HAPPENED EVERY YEAR.
SO THANK YOU FOR KNOWING THAT CUZ THAT'S PART OF IT.
AND THEN, AND THEN THE SECOND, THE SECOND PART OF IT WAS, SEE YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO THINK OF IT BECAUSE IT WAS IN WRITING.
AND THE SECOND AND THE SECOND PART
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OF IT IS THAT WE CAN ELIMINATE THIS AND DO A SIDE BY SIDE.MONA, WE'LL WALK AWAY TONIGHT WITH A PROPOSAL FOR CONSIDERATION FOR THE BOARD THAT THERE IS FOR CONSIDERATION A SIDE BY SIDE OF LOCAL AND LEGAL OF OUR POLICY IN LIEU OF THE OPERATING PROCEDURES.
I WOULD LIKE YOU TO PUT IN PARENTHESIS FOR THE NEXT DATE THAT WE ARE GOING TO SET THIS MEETING FOR BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO GET TOO FAR OFF TRACK CUZ IT'S OFTEN HERE.
BUT IT'S A COUPLE OF THINGS WE REALLY NEED TO REVIEW IF WE ARE GOING TO TAKE THIS AWAY, CUZ SOMEHOW IT NEEDS TO REFLECT SOMEWHERE AND I DON'T KNOW NO OTHER WORD TO PUT IT, BUT IN OPERATING PROCEDURE IS ONE THE BOARD TRAVEL ON HOW THE BOARD IS SUPPOSED TO REACT TO TRAVEL.
IT IS IN LAW BECAUSE I PULL THAT TRAVEL FROM THE LEGAL PERSPECTIVE OF IT, REIMBURSEMENT OF BOARD MEMBERS, UH, APPLYING TO GO SOMEWHERE AND DON'T GO.
AND THE DISTRICT HAS PAID FOR IT.
YEAH, I'LL PULL IT OUT AND GIVE IT TO YOU AND I'LL JUST MAKE ANOTHER COPY.
MATTER OF FACT, I'LL, I'LL I'LL SEND THIS.
I I'LL SAVE THIS ON MY COMPUTER.
AND ANYBODY ELSE WANTED, JUST ASK ME AND I'LL SEND IT TO 'EM.
SO HAVE WE HAD ANYONE OR ARE YOU JUST REITERATING THAT I'M REITERATING WHAT POLICY SAYING BECAUSE I'M SAYING IF WE TAKE THIS AWAY, I WAS GONNA HAVE TO PAY $2,000.
IF WE TAKE THIS AWAY, THEN THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT WE AS A BOARD GOTTA FIGURE OUT HOW IT IS GOING TO BE ADDRESSED.
WELL IF YOU, OKAY, MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WAS THE WHOLE POINT OF THAT IS TO ADDRESS WHAT HAS NOT, HOW THAT IS IT.
THAT IS A SUMMARY OF A BREAKDOWN.
BUT BECAUSE CERTAIN THINGS WERE NOT CLEAR, UM, LIKE A NEW BOARD MEMBER COMING ON AND SOME OF THAT STUFF WAS NOT CLEAR OR NOT FOLLOWED, THEY NEEDED TO BE RE ADDRESSED.
THAT SPEAKS TO, BUT BUT IT'S IN HERE TO THAT WE ARE SUPPOSED TO ADDRESS THIS EVERY YEAR.
BUT IT'S, IT'S FROM 4,500 MONET TO SEVEN.
IS IT 7,000 OR 7 75 FOR BOARD TRAVEL? FOR CONVENTIONS AND TRAINING.
SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE ADDRESS THAT.
AND THE OTHER ISSUE THAT I WANT US TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ADDRESS IS WHEN WE GET TO PAGE SIX MOVING FORWARD.
WELL ACTUALLY, UH, WHAT PAGE IS THAT YOU ON UP THERE ON THE SCREEN ON THIS IS PAGE FOUR.
WELL SEE NOW YOU, YOU BASICALLY GET INTO DISCUSSION IS GONNA LEAD TO PAGE SIX AND SEVEN WHERE IT ACTUALLY GIVES DETAILS ABOUT WHAT I WAS KINDA SAYING AND RELATING TO SUPERINTENDENT.
AND THEN IT'S GOING TO END UP WITH EVALUATIONS AND THEN IT'S GOING TO END UP, CUZ THAT NEEDS TO BE VERY CLEAR BECAUSE I'M SURE WE ALL HAVE, CAN WE GO BACK TO THE BOARD TRAVEL OR THE TRAVEL POLICY MM-HMM.
CAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS I EXPERIENCED WITH THIS LAST UM, CONFERENCE WAS I ENDED UP PAYING OUT OF POCKET FOR PARKING.
IS THAT NOT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN ADD AS A PAYMENT BE COVERED FRONT? WELL, IT'S COVERED BUT IT, WE ALWAYS CAN WE, CAN WE IN THIS INSTANT HERE THAT WE'VE BEEN BACK WITH THREE WEEKS NOW AND I HAVEN'T BEEN REIMBURSED IF I WERE IN DIRE NEED OF THAT YOU YEAH, IN FACT WHEN I, WHEN I CAME BACK THE, THE MORNING I CAME BACK, I DROPPED THE KEYS OFF WITH AN ACTUAL RECEIPT AND I THINK I SENT MS. BRIAN.
SO I I'VE GIVEN IT OUT TWICE NOW, BUT I ALWAYS GAVE HER NIGHT.
I DID, I MEAN I SENT IT TO HER WHEN SHE ASKED ME FOR IT THE SECOND TIME.
BUT WHAT I, BECAUSE I THINK THEY WERE IN A MEETING THE MORNING AND I DROPPED IT OFF, I LEFT IT HERE AND THEN LOOKED ON THE IMPRESSION.
YOU COULD PROBABLY LIKE SAY WE KNOW WHAT HOTEL WE'RE STAYING IN, YOU KNOW YOU HAVE A CAR, WE COULD PROBABLY ALWAYS ASK FOR HOW MUCH PARKING IS AND TRY TO PAY IT IN ADVANCE.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RULE IS ON THIS.
SO MONAY PROBABLY CHECK ON ADVANCE PARKING.
YOU WENT TO SAN ANTONIO AT THAT TIME? THEY LET ME PARK AT THE HOTEL AND THEY BUILT IT, BUILD IT TO THE HOTEL.
OH, YOU GONNA SEE SOME TOTAL CHARGES TOO MAN? YOU WANT ME TO SEND YOUR EMAIL? I'M NOT SURE.
CAN YOU LEAVE A OPEN CARD ON THE HOTEL? I DON'T THINK THINK SO.
INSIDE THEY CHARGED, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT? THE WELL, CAUSE SHE TOLD ME THAT THERE WAS A CREDIT CARD ON FILE AND SHE COULD AND I TOLD HER, I SAID, NO, DON'T, DON'T DO THAT.
I SAID I'LL PAY FOR IT AND THEN GET THE THE REIMBURSEMENT THAT'S ON THE CHECK TOO.
YOU PROBABLY RECEIPT FOR, FOR ENVELOPE AND ALL THE RECEIPTS FOR THE TRANSPORTATION CAME AND GOT THE CARD RECEIPTS.
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OKAY.SO DO YOU MIND RECAPPING REAL QUICK WHAT WE ARE LEAVING TONIGHT WITH SO WE DON'T HAVE TO RE WHEN WE SET A DATE AND HOW WOULD YOU ALL THE COMMITTEE LIKE TO DO THAT? WHAT DO YOU MEAN TO LEAVE OFF? WE LEFT OFF ON PAGE FOUR.
I WOULD STRONGLY YOU ABOUT TO LOOK AT THIS MAKES ANY MARKUPS THAT YOU NEED TO.
AND I'LL BE RESPONSIBLE IF YOU ALL SEND THEM TO ME.
CC THE BOARD PRESIDENT AND THE SUPERINTENDENT.
I MEAN, UM, THAT'S ON THE MEMBERSHIP DUES BECAUSE WE HAVE POTATOES.
THERE'S ONLY, THERE ARE ONLY THREE ITEMS LISTED HERE.
I NEED, I NEED TO KNOW SO I CAN PAY THOSE.
IF YOU'RE GONNA BE A MEMBER, THE BOARD'S GONNA BE A MEMBER.
YEAH, I THINK I, I MEAN I KNOW MONA PAID IT BUT IT'S NOT IN HERE.
I KNOW SOME OF YOU ARE GOING TO THE CONFERENCE BUT I KNOW MORE THEY PAID IT.
BUT AGAIN, THIS NEEDS TO BE OPERATING PROCEDURES CAUSE RIGHT NOW ONLY SAYS THREE THAT YOU HAVE AND THAT'S TEXAS ASSOCIATION OF SCHOOL BOARD, WHICH YOU KNOW, NORTH TEXAS AREA ASSOCIATION OF SCHOOL BOARD.
I DON'T KNOW ANYBODY'S ATTENDED ANY THAT.
I THINK IT'S ONE THAT HAS BEEN, WE'VE BEEN REMOVED FROM, THEY'RE NO LONGER PART OF THE, WHO WAS IN THE NATIONAL SCHOOL? THE NATIONAL
THAT'S THE NATIONAL, THAT'S THE WHOLE STATE AND THEN THE NATIONAL SCHOOL BOARD ASSOCIATION.
SO, UH, I JUST NEED TO KNOW WHAT YOU ALL WANT AND YOU CAN TELL ME THE NAME OF BOARD MEETING.
YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'M HAVE YOU HERE, RIGHT? THAT'S THAT'S THE BIG, THAT'S ADMINISTRATOR'S.
SO, SO OUR NEXT MEETING WE WILL COVER THE BOTTOM HALF.
STARTING WITH NUMBER TWO, CONDUCTING BOARD MEETINGS.
NO, IT'S GONNA BE FOUR E WHERE WE LEFT, WE PAGE FOUR.
WE DIDN'T BUT E IS WHERE WE START WHERE WE NEED TO START.
UM, LET ME, LET ME ASK SO I CAN BE CLEAR, BECAUSE IF YOU ALL READ THE REGULAR MEETING YOU ALL, WE HAVE HAD IN DEPTH CONVERSATION ABOUT MEETINGS AND MEETINGS, PREPARATION.
THERE'S ONLY TWO ITEMS. DO YOU REALLY WANNA GO OVER THAT AGAIN? IF THIS COMMITTEE SAYS YES, WE WILL DO.
WE'RE GOING TO, WE I WE NEED TO BE ADDRESSED.
IF, IF NEED BE, ONCE WE COME BACK, WE HAVE OUR HIGHLIGHTED AREAS.
AND I I I WOULD STRONGLY WE CAN VISIT AND MOVE FORWARD IF NOBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS, WE WILL ADDRESS.
I WOULD ADDRESS, I WOULD SAY IF SOMEONE DO, AND I DID SEND THE EMAIL OUT TO EVERYONE, IF ANYONE HAD ANY PARTICULAR ITEM THAT THEY NEED TO RE ADDRESS AT THE NEXT MEETING, PLEASE, PLEASE SEND IT SO WE CAN, UM, STAY ON FOCUS WITH THAT.
AND MS. WOODFIELD, THANK YOU FOR KEEPING US ON TRACK.
NONE YOU GOT A SENSE OF WE SHOULD BE ABLE MOVE IT QUICKLY.
WELL WE, WE ARE ONLY GONNA MOVE QUICKLY IF WE COME IN PREPARED.
CAN WE UM, WE'RE GONNA BE RUNNING UP HERE PRETTY, CAN WE CLOSE THIS OUT? ANYBODY HAVE ANYMORE QUESTIONS? WE NEED TO SET A DATE FOR OUR NEXT MEETING.
WE NEED TO LOOK AT OUR CALENDAR SO WE CAN GO AHEAD AND SET A DATE.
SO THE NEXT MEETING, CAUSE WE ONLY HAVE IT WEDNESDAY.
SO OUR MEETING NEXT MONTH IS EARLIER.
PROBABLY WITHIN THE FIRST TWO WEEKS.
SO WHEN YOU ALL LOOK AT YOUR CALENDAR, I'M WHATEVER MONDAY.
MONDAY NIGHTS A PREFERENCE FOR ME.
AND SO, UM, WHO ARE THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS THAT WOULD HAVE A DECISION WE'RE FILL YOU? WE'D ONLY COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
SO IS MONDAY A PROBLEM WITH YOU ALL? I NEED TO LOOK AT MY CALENDAR, BUT I THINK I CAN ACCOMMODATE IT.
CAN I MAKE A SPECIAL REQUEST? BECAUSE MONDAYS ARE BEST, UH, FOR ME AND I DO KNOW AND APPRECIATE AND RESPECT YOUR CALENDAR.
IF THERE'S ANY WAY THAT WE CAN, MAYBE ONE WEEK OUT OF NOVEMBER, GET A MONDAY.
IF WE DON'T DO WITHIN THE FIRST TWO WEEKS SAYING YOU HAVE TO PUSH IT THAT FAR.
SO YOU HAD TRIED TO ACCOMMODATE EITHER THE FIRST MONDAY OR THE SECOND MONDAY? I'M SPEAKING, I'M TALKING ABOUT, I'M TALKING ABOUT THIS, YEAH.
SO YOU WANNA COME BACK NEXT MONDAY? YEAH, SURE.
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AT MY NEXT MONDAY.YOU WANNA BE, SO I THINK THAT THANK YOU FOR THAT DR.
I'M SORRY, I WAS JUST TRYING TO GET THAT FROM MONET.
DO YOU MIND LOOKING AT NEXT MONDAY AND SEE IF YOU ARE AVAILABLE? MONET? OH, IT'S MONET HOOD SAID THAT MONA, WHAT YOU SEE FROM ON SUNDAY FROM APPLE? LIKE THIS SUMMER MAYBE? I THINK THEY HAD, I THINK ONE JUST CAME OUT.
OH YEAH, THEY GOT THE, THE FOURTH.
WHAT ABOUT MONDAY WEEK? MONDAY WEEK, MONDAY WEEK, THE WEEK AFTER.
I'M OKAY, MR. STEVENS, I'M GONNA FIND THAT I, I I, UH, WE FORGOT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING, WE'RE LOOKING AT.
IT'S ABOUT, UH, OKAY, SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THE 24TH OF OCTOBER.
NOW THE QUESTION WAS IS THAT UH, DR.
PERRERA HAD, UM, EVERYONE KNOW THERE WAS A TRAGIC IN HER FAMILY AND SO SHE'S TRAVELING PROBABLY THURSDAY.
PROBABLY WON'T GET BACK TO SUNDAY.
SO I CAN DO MONDAY IF WE ARE YOU SURE? OKAY.
SO, AND YOU NEED TO, AND THANK YOU DR.
PERRERA FOR MAKING THAT EXCEPTION FOR US.
OH, TALKING TO MR. MR. PETERSON.
IS THERE MORE THEN THE MEETING IS ADJOURNED.
AND, UH, MR. LEWIS, THANK YOU FOR COMING AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR INPUT.
I HAVE SOME CHIPS IN THE, BUT YOU KNOW, I'LL TAKE IT TO THE KIDS.