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THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE.

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WE WANT TO THANK EVERYONE FOR COMING.

[2. Call Meeting to Order]

THIS IS THE CERTIFIED NOTICE POSTED AGENDA OF THE LANCASTER INDEPENDENT BOARD OF TRUSTEES BOARD OPERATION PROCEDURE COMMITTEE MEETING, ELIAS DH ADMINISTRATION BUILDING.

AND WE ARE MEETING IN THE BOARDROOM AT AT 422 SOUTH CENTER AVENUE, LANCASTER, TEXAS AT 75146.

OCTOBER 31ST.

UM, 2022 AND THE TIME IS 537.

THE MEETING WAS POSTED FOR 530.

WE HAVE OUR DISTRICT GOALS.

IF ANYONE HAVE QUESTIONS.

I WILL NOW CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER.

ROLL CALL, MR. STEVENS. DEAR MISS DR.

PEREIRA, MYSELF.

CAROLYN MORRIS. PRESENT.

MR. WHITFIELD.

HERE. THANK YOU, DR.

PEREIRA. DO WE HAVE ANY CITIZEN COMMENTS? NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[5. Policy review with Operating Procedures Review (G2-G4)]

UM, WE WILL START THE REVIEW WITH THE OPERATING PROCEDURES REVIEW.

AND BEFORE WE GET STARTED, I'LL READ THE SAME STATEMENT AS STARTING OFF WITH TWO MONDAYS AGO.

INTRODUCTION FOR THE COMMITTEE.

GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.

HOPEFULLY WE WILL BE ABLE TO GET THROUGH THIS IN ONE MINUTE NOW IN THREE MEN AND THREE MEETINGS.

SO THE ONE HAS CHANGED THE THREE MEETINGS.

THERE MAY BE OTHER MEETINGS THAT WOULD OR SHOULD TAKE PLACE FOR COMPLETION.

WHO WOULD LIKE TO BE THE PERSON THAT KEEP US ON TRACK WITH THE POLICY, WITH OUR POLICY AND UNDERSTANDING. OH, WELL.

ALL RIGHT. MISS WHITFIELD HAS VOLUNTEERED TO KEEP US ON TRACK.

OUR GOAL IS TO COVER EACH PAGE UNLESS THE COMMITTEE DECIDES THERE IS.

OH, I'M SORRY.

UNLESS THE COMMITTEE DECIDES.

OTHER THAN THERE IS NO NEED TO BE SO DETAILED.

PLEASE FEEL FREE TO MAKE ANY SUGGESTIONS THAT THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS MAY FEEL THAT IS IMPORTANT FOR THE BOARD TO UNDERSTAND THE PURPOSE OF OUR MEETING. OUR GOAL IS TO COMPLETE THE POSTED AGENDA BOARD OPERATING PROCEDURES.

THE PURPOSE OF THE COMMITTEE IS TO REVIEW AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE BOARD IN AN OPEN SESSION OF THE REGULAR BOARD MEETING. EVERY MEMBER SHOULD ALSO HELP OTHER BOARD MEMBERS TO UNDERSTAND HOW TO DEFINE LOCAL POLICY VERSUS LEGAL POLICY. THE OUTCOME IS FOR EACH BOARD MEMBER AND COMMITTEE MEMBER WILL HAVE CLARITY OF GOVERNANCE AND OPERATING PROCEDURES AS OUTLINED IN BOARD POLICY.

ANY CHANGES OR UPDATES SHOULD BE CLEARLY DEFINED TO EVERY BOARD MEMBER SO THEY WILL BE ABLE TO REACH INDIVIDUAL, DEFINE AND ANSWER AND THE PURPOSE OF THEIR DECISION SO THEY CAN SO THEY CAN BE CONCISE TO THEIR VOTE AT THE BOARD, AT THE SCHOOL BOARD MEETING AS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL.

THANK YOU. SO WE CAN GET STARTED AND WE ARE ON PAGE.

MADAM CHAIR, IF I MAY. MS..

MOREY. YES.

UM. YOU BEGIN AGAIN, JUST LIKE WE DID THE LAST TIME.

AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT POLICY.

AND THAT EVERY BOARD MEMBER HAS TO HELP OTHER BOARD MEMBERS UNDERSTAND POLICY.

THESE ARE TWO DISTINCT DEVICES, ARE THEY NOT? WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BOARD OPERATING PROCEDURES.

NO, WE HAVE A BOOK OF POLICY.

SO THOSE ARE DISTINCTLY DIFFERENT.

CONFLATING THEM.

I MEAN, WHAT GOOD IS THAT? OKAY, SO YOU'RE GOING DON'T DISCUSS POLICY OR THE BOARD OPERATING PROCEDURES AND GUIDELINES.

ARE YOU? DO YOU WANT ME TO ANSWER THAT? OKAY. THESE ARE OPERATING PROCEDURES FROM OUR POLICY WITH EVERYTHING THAT WE ARE DOING AS IT'S A CONDENSED VERSION OF POLICY AND THAT THAT HAS BEEN SHARED.

THAT WAS IN MY OPEN STATEMENT.

WE CANNOT PUT WHAT WE WANT TO PUT IN OUR OPERATING PROCEDURES.

IT HAS TO EITHER COME FROM OUR LOCAL OR OUR LEGAL POLICY.

NOW WE CAN MAYBE STRUCTURE HOW IS SAID, BUT IT HAS TO BE IT HAS TO COINCIDE WITH LEGAL POLICY.

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IT HAS TO.

OKAY. I'M SORRY. I'M JUST A LITTLE BIT SLOW ON THE UPTAKE.

BUT YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT EVERYTHING IN THE OPERATING GUIDELINES HAS TO COME FROM POLICY? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? NO, THAT'S NOT WHAT I SAID.

BUT IS WHAT YOU JUST SAID. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. MR. STEVENS, I CAN SHARE THIS WITH YOU.

WE HAVE HAD THREE MEETINGS, AND IF YOU ARE NOT CLEAR TO WHERE WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE BY NOW AND THE PURPOSE OF THIS, I AM JUST SO SORRY. I'M NOT ABLE TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, BUT THIS COMMITTEE IS CHARGED WITH UPDATING OUR OPERATING PROCEDURES.

WELL, YOU DIDN'T SAY THAT. YOU SAID YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT POLICY.

WORDS MEAN SOMETHING.

OKAY. WOULD YOU AND YOU JUST WOULD YOU LIKE FOR ME TO READ IN, REITERATE WHAT I JUST READ? NO, YOU JUST BROUGHT ANOTHER POINT UP, THOUGH.

AND THAT POINT AND THAT POINT IS THAT THE OPERATING PROCEDURES COME FROM POLICY.

OKAY. OKAY. IS THAT YOUR STATEMENT, MR. TRUSTEE STEVENS? I'M REALLY CANNOT DEBATE THIS WITH YOU BECAUSE I RESPECT YOUR OPINION AND I HEAR YOU.

I ACCEPT IT.

AND CAN WE MOVE ON BECAUSE I CAN'T ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.

WELL, WE'VE REACHED A STICKING POINT THEN, BECAUSE YOU'VE MADE CERTAIN STATEMENTS.

WHAT DID I MAKE AND WHAT DID I SAY? YOU SAID THAT OPERATING PROCEDURES COME FROM POLICY.

I DIDN'T SAY THAT.

I SAID OPERATING.

OPERATING PROCEDURE HAS TO COINCIDE WITH OUR POLICY.

COINCIDE? THAT'S MY STATEMENT I JUST MADE.

OKAY. THIS IS A VIDEO, RIGHT? YES. OKAY.

WE WILL GO. AND WE ARE RECORDING AS WELL.

OKAY. SO WE'RE ON PAGE SEVEN.

AND WE ARE DOWN TO THE PART WHERE MONITORING SUPERINTENDENTS PERFORMANCE.

I DID NOT RECEIVE ANY WRITTEN CONCERNS FROM ANY BOARD MEMBERS OR COMMITTEE MEMBERS.

SO I'M SURE EVERYONE HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO READ.

DO. THE MONITORING SUPERINTENDENTS PERFORMANCE.

IS THAT CORRECT? ANYONE HAVE ANY COMMENTS, ANY STATEMENTS THEY WOULD LIKE TO MAKE? WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY IS THAT AS FOR THE, UM, AS WE GO THROUGH THIS.

A. OPERATING.

I'M SORRY. BOARD OPERATING GUIDELINES.

CORRECT. YES.

AS WE CONTINUE TO GO THROUGH THIS, AS WE HAVE BEEN, ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS THAT I MAY HAVE, MAY HAVE WILL BE ADDRESSED AT THE TIME WE REACH THAT PARTICULAR ITEM OR SECTION IN THIS GUIDELINE.

SO I DID NOT SEND YOU AN EMAIL.

UM. BECAUSE I CHOOSE TO ADDRESS ANY CONCERNS OR QUESTIONS I MAY HAVE DURING THE MEETING.

OKAY. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.

TRUSTEE, WE FEEL. BUT ALSO LET ME SHARE SOMETHING WITH YOU.

THIS IS A COMMITTEE FOR THIS PARTICULAR YOU MAY ASK THE QUESTION.

YOU'RE WELCOME TO ASK THE QUESTION, BUT THIS IS NOT A TRAINING MEETING.

SO YOU MAY ASK THE QUESTION THAT I MAY NOT BE ABLE TO ANSWER YOU.

AND AT THAT TIME I'LL LET YOU KNOW.

THAT'S FINE. I UNDERSTAND THAT.

I UNDERSTAND THIS IS NOT A TRAINING AND I UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE GOING THROUGH BOARD POLICY THAT I'M SORRY, PROCEDURE GUIDELINES.

AND I UNDERSTAND I MEAN, OPERATING GUIDELINES, I APOLOGIZE.

AND I DO UNDERSTAND WE ARE LOOKING TO OFFER UP ANY SUGGESTIONS AND CHANGES.

SO I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH WHAT THE PURPOSE IS AND WHY WE'RE HERE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ANYONE HAVE ANY CONCERNS OR.

ADJUSTMENTS. THEY WOULD LIKE TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE BOARD.

I HAVE, ACTUALLY.

OKAY. YES.

YES. DR.

PEREIRA. THE FIRST STATEMENT.

THE EMPLOYEE OTHER THAN THE SUPERINTENDENT, I THINK THAT'S A TYPO THERE.

THAT NEEDS TO BE CORRECTED IN THAT STATEMENT.

WHERE ARE YOU READING FROM, DR.

BURKE? UH, EIGHT.

IT'S THE MONITORING SUPERINTEND PERFORMANCE THAT WE DID.

WE DIDN'T GO THROUGH NUMBER SEVEN.

I'M SORRY. WHAT? PEDRO BE ON.

WE'RE ON PAGE SEVEN.

WE DIDN'T GO THROUGH NUMBER SEVEN.

WE'RE ON PAGE SEVEN AGAIN.

DO YOU RECALL, MADAM CHAIR, I DON'T KNOW WHO DID THE LAST TIME OR NOT.

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MADAM CHAIR? YES? CAN YOU HAVE. CAN YOU ALL SPEAK IN YOUR MIC SO THAT THEY CAN CAPTURE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. CAN YOU HEAR ME? ALL RIGHT. AND IF EVERYONE SPEAKS THROUGH, HE'S ASKING TO GO BACK TO SEVEN.

I DON'T THINK WE COVERED THAT ONE.

OKAY. I CAN GO BACK AND RECALL GOING TO NUMBER SEVEN.

DO YOU RECALL TALKING ABOUT THAT? WE CAN WE CAN START WITH SUPERINTENDENT, BOARD AND SUPERINTENDENT.

WE CAN START THERE.

THAT'S WHERE ACTUALLY WE ENDED AT H.

AND WE AND BEFORE WE CONTINUE, I WAS WAITING FOR CLARIFICATION FROM MS..

BRYANT ON COMMUNICATIONS A AND D, WHERE WERE YOU ABLE TO TELL YOU SOMETHING? OKAY. UM, SO I WAS WAITING ON CLARIFICATION FROM COMMUNICATION AND FROM HIS BRYANT.

AND IN THE MEETING WE ACTUALLY STOPPED AT H.

WE HAVE NOT TO REACH BOARD AND SUPERINTENDENT.

SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS.

I MEAN, IT WILL BE FORWARDED TO PRESIDENT CLINTON WEEKLY ELECTRONIC BOARD, AND WE WERE SUPPOSED TO START AT BOARD IT.

AND. SUPERINTENDENT. I'M SORRY.

GO AHEAD. I WILL SAY WE WE ARE OPEN.

THAT'S WHAT THE COMMITTEE IS, THAT WE CAN GO BACK TO PAGE ONE.

BUT I'M HAPPY TO START WHEREVER YOU WANT TO START.

SO IF YOU WANT TO GO BACK TO E, F, G, R H, PLEASE DO SO.

BECAUSE THERE WAS SOME CORRECTIONS THAT I KNOW THAT WE COVERED BECAUSE I HAVE MORE, I DO AS WELL.

AND THAT'S THE REASON WHY I STATED WHEN WE ENTERED THE MEETING, WE CLARIFY THAT WE END AT H ON PAGE SEVEN AND WE ARE TO START AT BOARD AND SUPERINTENDENT.

OKAY, NO PROBLEM.

RIGHT. WHAT QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.

WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO INSERT OR WHAT DO YOU FEEL THAT'S INCORRECT WITH IT? I WAS JUST CLARIFYING.

OH, YOU DON'T HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH IT.

NO, I'M NOT SAYING WE DON'T HAVE.

NO, NO, I'M.

WELL, IT'S JUST THE THREE OF US HERE.

SO DO WE WANT TO ADDRESS.

ANYTHING AT THE TOP OF PAGE SEVEN IN E.

F. G, OR H.

OR DO WE WANT TO MOVE TO BOARD AND SUPERINTENDENT? OKAY, I ITEM SEVEN OR EIGHT I.

I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS.

OKAY. OKAY.

AS YOU MENTIONED BEFORE, YOU SAID THAT ANYTHING IN THIS DOCUMENT HAD TO ALIGN WITH OR COME FROM, UH, OR BE DERIVED FROM, UH, OR BE DERIVED FROM POLICY.

CORRECT. MR. STEVENS, WOULD YOU PLEASE ASK YOUR STATE YOUR CONCERN WITH THIS? BECAUSE I'M NOT ON THE WITNESS STAND.

OKAY. MY CONCERN WITH THIS IS THAT THIS IS DIAMETRICALLY OPPOSED TO THE STATUTE.

IT'S NOT IN THE LAW. NOTHING IN THE LAW SAYS ANY OF THIS IS PERMISSIBLE.

AND SO HOW CAN YOU MAKE A PROCEDURE OR A POLICY THAT'S OPPOSED TO LAW? SO, MR. STEVENS, IF THAT IS YOUR CONCERN, THAT WELL, YOU'RE STATING YOUR CONCERN.

MR. BRYANT.

WOULD YOU NOTE THAT FOR THE RECORD, WHAT MR. STEVENS STATED AS HIS CONCERN? NO, WE DON'T KNOW THAT. FOR THE RECORD, WE KNOW ANYTHING THAT'S A MEETING OF THE MINDS HERE, OR WE LOCATE THIS AND SCHEDULE IT FOR A VOTE OF THE BOARD.

WELL, LET ME JUST.

SURE. I DON'T THINK THAT'S APPROPRIATE, BUT THIS IS A MATTER OF STEVENS.

MR. STEVENS, LET ME SHARE SOMETHING WITH YOU.

WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, THIS IS NOT A DEBATE WITH US.

WE DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE.

IF YOU HAVE A PERSONAL ISSUE WITH THIS, THEN JUST STATE YOUR CONCERNS AND YOUR ISSUES SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD BECAUSE WE'RE NOT HERE TO ARGUE TONIGHT. PLEASE, THIS IS NOT A PERSONAL CONCERN.

IT'S A MATTER OF LAW. HAVE YOU READ THE STATUTE? OKAY. HAVE YOU READ THE STATUTE THAT REFERS? YES. YES, I HAVE.

AND IF YOU AGREE THAT THIS IS DIRECTLY OPPOSITE THE STATUTE, I AM NOT GOING DOWN TO THAT QUESTION BECAUSE WE ALL EQUALLY CAN PUT INTO THIS.

AND THAT'S WHAT YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO.

AND AS ADULTS AND RESPONSIBLE ELECTED OFFICIALS, THAT'S WHAT I INTEND TO HOPE TO ACCOMPLISH WITH US.

OKAY. I DON'T MAKE POLICY.

I DON'T I DON'T TAKE OWNERSHIP WHAT LEGISLATION SAYS.

AND I'M NOT GOING TO TRY TO GET YOU TO PUT ME IN THAT POSITION TO ANSWER A QUESTION THAT COULD BE A LEGAL QUESTION OR A QUESTION IN REGARDS TO SOMETHING YOU DISAGREE TO.

YOU'RE NOT GOING TO PUT ME IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT HERE.

AND I THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT WE WERE HERE FOR, FOR ANALYSIS AND A RECOMMENDATION TO THE BOARD AND MAKE YOUR RECOMMENDATION THAT YOU'RE NOT EVEN GOING TO TRY TO READ IT.

I UNDERSTAND IT OR I KNOW I AM.

I'M TELLING YOU, IF YOU HAVE A STATUTE THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT TO THIS COMMITTEE, PRESENT YOUR STATUTE, STATE YOUR REASON

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WHY THAT YOU FEEL H IS NOT IN LINE WITH THE STATUTE.

THAT'S YOUR QUESTION TO US.

OKAY. I FEEL RATHER STRONGLY ABOUT THIS.

OKAY. AND THIS NEEDS TO BE REPRESENTED FOR A LEGAL OPINION.

OKAY. WELL, MR. BRYANT, WOULD YOU PUT DOWN THAT TRUSTEE STEVENS WOULD LIKE A LEGAL OPINION ON H.

THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO SAY ABOUT H.

AND THAT'S ON PAGE SEVEN, CORRECT? THAT'S ON PAGE SEVEN. NO, THEY WENT UP TO THE TOP AGAIN ON PAGE SEVEN.

WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO ACTUALLY, I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD.

ON PAGE SEVEN MEANS ON H.

OKAY. I'M SORRY.

OKAY, SO ACTUALLY, I WOULD LIKE TO REVISIT E.

CAN YOU SPEAK IN YOUR MIND, PLEASE? THANK YOU. YOU INDIVIDUAL TRUSTEES CANNOT SPEAK IN AN OFFICIAL CAPACITY OUTSIDE THE BOARDROOM OR CALL OR ATTEND MEETINGS AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE BOARD, EXCEPT AS SET FORTH HEREIN AND IN BOARD POLICY WITHOUT PRIOR AUTHORIZATION OF THE BOARD.

WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO CHANGE ON THAT? UM, WHEN I WENT TO BOARD POLICY, THERE REALLY WAS NO CLARIFICATION THERE AS A.

IS THERE AN OFFICIAL BREAKDOWN OF E.

AS IT RELATES TO BOARD POLICY, BUT WHERE WE JUST GOING TO ADDRESS THAT? WHEN WE HAVE THE BOARD POLICY MEETING.

WELL, ACTUALLY TRUST A TRUSTEE.

WHITFIELD. MM.

UM. I THINK YOU'RE BRINGING A CONCERN TO US FOR YOU TO HAVE THE POLICY TO TELL US WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE OR WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN THIS.

SO IF THERE IS SOMETHING DIFFERENT, THIS IS WHAT IT READS.

NOW, I UNDERSTAND I WAS NOT ON THIS COMMITTEE WHEN THIS WAS PREPARED, SO THE MIND THOUGHT OF THE INDIVIDUALS.

I CANNOT SAY.

BUT I CAN SAY THAT EACH BOARD MEMBER.

AND WHAT THEY EXPECTATION IN COMMUNICATION IS IS LISTED.

AND SO IF YOU HAVE BOARD POLICY, YOU CAN PULL IT UP AND SHARE IT WITH US.

SO WE CAN PERHAPS LOOK AT THAT.

THE RECOMMENDATION WILL BE TO REFERENCE EXACTLY IN LAW.

WHAT THIS PUTS, WHAT EA IS REFERENCING TO.

AND THE. I GUESS.

EXACTLY. HAVE A BREAKDOWN ON THIS POLICY IS GOING TO BECAUSE I KNOW WE DISCUSSED HAVING LAW AND THEN.

UM, OPERATIONS AND POLICY OR WHAT HAVE YOU.

AND EACH ONE IS SUPPOSED TO REFERENCE BACK TO LAW.

SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I NOTE THAT THE RECOMMENDATION FOR THIS IS TO MAKE SURE WE'RE REFERENCING BACK TO LAW AND A BREAKDOWN AS FAR AS. WHAT THIS RECOMMENDATION IS, THOUGH, WOULD BE MORE.

I MEAN, THERE'S SPACE THERE, BUT UNFORTUNATELY.

IS, IT APPEARS NOT TO BE CLEAR.

SO THAT'S MY RECOMMENDATION.

UM, JUST REFERENCE BOARD POLICY.

BUT WHEN I, WHEN I GO BACK TO BOARD POLICY, BOARD POLICY REALLY DOES NOT STAY SPECIFIC AS IT RELATES TO THE BOARD AND A BREAKDOWN.

SO IT IS CLEAR AND CLARIFIED.

THAT'S ALL I'M RECOMMENDING.

OKAY. MISS BRYANT, DO YOU NEED ANY CLARIFICATION OR DID YOU GET MS..

WHITFIELD REQUEST ON E! OKAY. I DON'T HAVE ANY.

WHICH. OKAY, SURE.

IT SAYS, UM.

THE TRUSTEES CANNOT SPEAK IN AN OFFICIAL CAPACITY OUTSIDE THE BOARDROOM OR CALL OR ATTEND MEETINGS AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE BOARD.

SO IF A BOARD MEMBER ATTENDS, SAY, FOR EXAMPLE, A CITY MEETING OR SOMETHING.

AND YOU SAY SOMETHING.

WHAT IS OFFICIAL AND WHAT'S NOT AND WHAT IS ATTENDING AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE BOARD? IS THAT WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE LEGAL TO ANSWER? BECAUSE I CAN'T ANSWER THAT.

I CAN'T ANSWER THAT.

EACH ONE OF US IN OUR CAPACITY AS ELECTED OFFICIALS, THAT'S WHAT I TRAINING, WHAT TIES ME THAT THEY OFFER US.

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AND WE HAVE HAD, I THINK, MAYBE THREE, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.

AND SO THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN GET THAT QUESTION ANSWERED FOR YOU BY THE RIGHT INDIVIDUALS TO ANSWER THAT.

I WAS NOT IN THIS MEETING WHEN THEY PUT THIS TOGETHER.

SO I WELCOME YOUR CONCERNS AND YOUR QUESTIONS.

THIS DOCUMENT HAS BEEN IN EFFECT FROM AUGUST 2019, AND MY ONLY POINT IS THAT IF YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE THIS, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS IT, POLICY OR PROCEDURE, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO MAKE IT, YOU'VE GOT TO DEFINE WHAT THESE TERMS MEAN FOR IT TO BE EFFECTIVE.

AND MR. STEVENS, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU WANT ME TO SAY OTHER THAN IF YOU LOOK ON PAGE 13, YOU WILL SEE CAROLINE MORRISON SIGNED THIS DOCUMENT.

AND THEN WHEN YOU KNOW YOUR QUESTIONS OR YOUR CONCERNS THAT YOU HAVE SERIOUSLY, I'M NOT TRYING TO BE UNNECESSARILY ARGUMENTATIVE, BUT THESE ARE LEGAL DOCUMENTS.

AND LIKE I SAID, WHEN YOU PUT WORDS ON THE PAGE, THEY MEAN SOMETHING.

IF YOU DON'T DEFINE THEM, THEY MEAN PRETTY MUCH NOTHING OR ANYTHING.

WELL, SEE, THE GOOD THING ABOUT IT THAT WE AS A COMMITTEE ARE SITTING HERE RIGHT NOW TRYING TO GET IT RIGHT.

AND SO WHATEVER SUGGESTIONS YOU HAVE FOR THAT PARTICULAR ONE, THE FLOOR IS YOURS.

OKAY. I'M NOT A SEASONED BOARD MEMBER, MADAM CHAIR, WHY DON'T YOU LEAVE? WELL, I'M NOT YOUR TRAINER.

WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO AT FIRST, IF WE CAN, PLEASE GET BACK ON TRACK.

MS.. MR. TRUSTEE STEVENSON, WHAT APPEARS IN FRONT OF ME AT THIS MOMENT, BASED ON THE DIALOG THAT'S BACK AND FORTH AND THE RESPONSE THAT TRUSTEE MORRIS IS MAKING MOVING FORWARD, IT APPEARS THAT THIS MEETING WILL BE CONDUCTED TOTALLY DIFFERENT THAN HOW IT HAS BEEN CONDUCTED FROM THE PAST TWO MEETINGS THAT WE HAVE HAD. WITH THAT SAID, IF YOU ANY CONCERNS THAT YOU MAY HAVE DIRECT THEM TO MS.. I'M SORRY.

MS.. BRYANT ASKED MS..

PRIME IF SHE CAN ACTUALLY PUT THAT.

NO, TAKE THAT SO IT CAN BE BROUGHT UP DURING IS THAT IS THAT PROPER WAY TO SAY THAT? THANK YOU. I'M SORRY.

IF YOU CAN ASK MS..

BRYANT TO JUST ADD THAT TO THE LIST OF CONCERNS THAT WE WILL BRING TO THE BOARD.

SO FOR EACH MOVING FORWARD, EACH ITEM THAT YOU HAVE THAT IS A CONCERN WILL BE SUBMITTED AS A REQUEST TO BE ADDED SO WE CAN DISCUSS THIS AS A BOARD.

MS.. TRUSTEE MORRIS I GUESS WITH THE UNDERSTANDING OF HOW THIS CONVERSATION IS GOING, MOVING FORWARD, IS REALLY NOT ANSWERING ANY QUESTIONS AND AND WILL BE DIRECTING THE SAME.

AND I'M STATING THIS JUST TO MINIMIZE ANY CONFUSION.

AND SO WE ARE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD.

SO THAT'S WHAT I'M GATHERING BECAUSE PRIOR MEETINGS, THIS IS NOT HOW THIS MEETING WAS GOING, WHICH IS REALLY OKAY BECAUSE THIS SEEMS A LITTLE MORE PEACEFUL.

BUT WE LET'S LET'S JUST MOVE FORWARD.

OKAY? AND I APOLOGIZE.

SO LET ME REPHRASE THIS.

THE WAY THE SENTENCE READS.

HERE IT GOES AGAIN. I'M SO SORRY.

IT'S OKAY. YOU ALREADY LET US KNOW AHEAD OF TIME.

THE WAY IT DOESN'T DEFINE THE SPECIFICS MUCH LIKE IF YOU START READING THE LAW, IT WOULD DEFINE EVERY TERM THAT YOU'RE GOING TO FIND IN THAT LAW.

AND IF YOU'RE GOING TO IF YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE A LEGAL DOCUMENT THAT'S BINDING ON THE PARTIES, YOU NEED TO DO THAT.

SO I DON'T KNOW HOW DO WE DO THAT? DID WE DEBATE IT HERE AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO JUST MAKE A WELL, SEND THAT TO THE BOARD AND SAY, HERE'S WHAT IT SAYS.

WHAT DO YOU FEEL WE SHOULD DO WITH IT? DO YOU WANT ME AS A CHAIR OF THIS COMMITTEE? I AM THE CHAIR OF THIS COMMITTEE.

ANYTHING THAT ANYONE WOULD LIKE MS..

BRYANT TO DO, IT'S OPEN TO EITHER.

I WILL NARROW IT DOWN BECAUSE SHE IS TRYING TO NARROW IT BECAUSE WE ARE NOT HERE TO VOTE ON ANYTHING.

IF ANY COMMITTEE MEMBER HAVE AN ISSUE, WE HAVE HAD THESE PROCEDURES.

THEY WERE IN PLACE WHEN EACH OF US CAME ON TO THE BOARD.

THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY AFTER REVIEWING THIS FOR THE LAST YEAR, THE LAST NINE MONTHS, THE LAST FOUR MONTHS OF THE LAST MONTH, THAT ANYONE THAT HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THIS DOCUMENT CAN PRESENT IT TO THIS COMMITTEE.

WE WILL HAVE YOUR CONCERNS PUT IN OUR MINUTES.

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WE GET AFTER WE FINISH THIS DOCUMENT.

AND THIS HAS BEEN REPEATED OVER EVERY MEETING WE HAVE MET.

WE CANNOT VOTE.

I CANNOT TELL ANYONE WHAT TO SAY.

THEIR CONCERNS ARE.

AND THANK YOU, MR. BRYANT, FOR PUTTING THE POLICY UP.

SO NOW ACTUALLY, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT, MR. TRUSTEE. STEPHENSON YOU CAN ACTUALLY READ IT WHEN THE INFORMATION, AS MR. BRYANT IS PUTTING IT UP NOW, YOU MAY BE ABLE TO ADDRESS WHAT'S STATED IN EITHER ONE OF THESE ALPHABETS ACCORDING TO MAKE SURE THAT WHERE WE ARE IF WE DON'T TRACK OFF TRACK.

SO SHE'S PUTTING IT UP NOW FOR US.

OKAY. AND IT'S FOR YOU, TOO, MS..

WHITFIELD, THAT YOU ARE ABLE TO READ THIS PART NOW, RIGHT.

THANK YOU. SO, MADAM CHAIR, I THINK IT SHOULD BE IN POLICY B, LOCAL OR LEGAL OR EITHER BE E, D, LOCAL OR LEGAL.

BUT I HAVE TO LOOK. LOOK FOR IT.

OKAY, SO WHILE YOU ARE TALKING, I'LL JUST LOOK FOR IT.

OKAY. SO IF YOU WOULD GIVE MS..

BRYANT, SINCE PERHAPS WE DIDN'T GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW YOUR CONCERNS BEFOREHAND, TRUSTEE STEVENS, THAT IF YOU DON'T MIND IF WE CAN MOVE FORWARD AND SHE WILL FIND THAT AND PUT IT UP ON THE SCREEN FOR US.

IS THAT OKAY? OH, ABSOLUTELY.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT, THEN.

SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD.

IS THERE ANY MORE QUESTIONS OR CONCERN? AND I WOULD SAY WE WERE STILL ANSWERING THE QUESTION ON E! NOW. I MADE MY RECOMMENDATION.

YOU HAVE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS? OKAY, GREAT. SO CAN WE MOVE TO WHICH ALPHABET WHICH YOU ALL CHOOSE TO TALK ABOUT NOW? WE WERE ON SEVEN A RIGHT TO SEVEN EIGHT, AND WE DECIDED THAT WE WERE GOING TO GO TO SEEK A LEGAL OPINION ON THAT.

ON WHICH ALPHABET? SEVEN. EIGHT. ON THE WHOLE DOCUMENT.

WE HADN'T GOTTEN DOWN TO THAT ONE.

WE WERE STILL DOING E F G H I, I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON MAKE CLEAR TO GET CLARIFICATION ON H PLEASE.

OKAY. AND I THINK WE HAVE ALREADY STATED TO GET CLARIFICATION ON H AND THE BREAKDOWN.

BY HOME. THAT WAS STATED TO ME TO MEET BRYANT TO PUT IN OUR MINUTES FOR H FOR H SHE'S GOING TO.

ACTUALLY. MR. BROWN. WHAT DID. WHAT DID WE DIRECT ON H.

ONE H. TRUSTEE STEVENSON WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A LEGAL OPINION ON H.

THAT'S WHAT I CAPTURED.

OKAY. OKAY. NO, NO, NO, NO.

SEVEN, EIGHT, SEVEN, EIGHT.

THEN H. SHE STATED H.

OKAY. SO I SAID, YEAH, WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO A YET.

SEVEN. THIS WAS BEFORE WE WENT BACK, REMEMBER? JUMPING AROUND RIGHT NOW.

OKAY. NOW.

OKAY. NOW, WHITFIELD SAID SHE WANTED TO REVISIT THOSE TWO ISSUES AND SHE WANTED TO GO BACK TO H.

MISS WHITFIELD SHARED WHAT SHE WANTED.

WHAT H YOU TALKED ABOUT.

H AND THEN YOU SAID THAT YOU WANTED A LEGAL OPINION OR YOU WANTED OPINION OR YOU WANTED ME TO ANSWER IT.

AND SO WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO? YOU ALL MAKE YOUR RECOMMENDATION SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE CAN SIT HERE ALL NIGHT AND GO FROM A TO H AND GO DOWN TO EIGHT.

BUT WHAT CONSIDERATION TO TIME THAT WE HAVE EACH MEETING.

UM. WHAT IS YOUR SUGGESTION? SHOULD WE GO TO THE BOARD AND SUPERINTENDENT? ACTUALLY, I'M SORRY.

HE. HE SPOKE ON SEVEN.

EIGHT. I SPOKE ON E! IS WHEN I MADE THE RECOMMENDATION.

I DID NOT MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON H.

AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT MS..

BRYANT JUST MADE THE STATEMENT OF THE RECOMMENDATION THAT WAS MADE BY TRUSTEE STEVENSON.

OKAY. DO YOU HAVE A RECOMMENDATION ON H.

IDENTIFIABLE LETTERS ADDRESSED TO THE BOARD OR A TRUSTEE FROM THE COMMUNITY WILL BE FORWARDED TO THE BOARD, PRESIDENT OR SUPERINTENDENT FOR INCLUSION IN THE WEEKLY ELECTRONIC BOARD NEWSLETTER WHEN WE'RE SPEAKING OF THE IDENTIFIABLE LETTERS ADDRESSED TO THE BOARD.

IS THERE. WHAT DOES IT SPECIFY? BECAUSE I DIDN'T SEE IN.

IS THERE A IS THERE A SPECIFIC LETTERS OR WHAT TYPE OF WHAT KIND OF LETTERS ARE WE LOOKING AT? BECAUSE WHEN I WENT BACK AND READ, I DIDN'T SEE ANY COMPLICATIONS OR BREAKDOWN.

OKAY, SO.

MISS WHITFIELD, WE RECEIVE A NEWSLETTER EVERY WEEK FROM THE SUPERINTENDENT.

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MS.. BRYANT SENT IT OUT TO US EVERY WEEK IN THE NEWSLETTER.

ANYTHING THAT THE BOARD NEED.

UPDATE FROM TRUSTEES, COMMUNITY BOARD, PRESIDENT OR SUPERINTENDENT.

IT IS INCLUDED IN THAT ELECTRONIC.

NEWSLETTER. NEWSLETTER.

DO YOU RECALL SAYING THAT? I DO HAVE THAT. AND SO IS THERE SOMETHING ABOUT THIS PART AND THE NEWSLETTER YOU WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE? NO, WHAT I'M ASKING IS TO GET CLARIFICATION.

SO IT WOULD IF IF THERE IS IF THERE ARE CONCERNS THAT ARE RAISED BY THE COMMUNITY, ARE THEY EXPRESSED IN THIS NEWSLETTER OR IS THERE SOMETHING DIFFERENT? UM. LESS.

I WOULD REFER TO THE SUPERINTENDENT ON CONCERNS FROM THE COMMUNITY.

ARE THEY ADDRESSED IN THE NEWSLETTER? DR. PEREIRA.

OR THEY ARE ADDRESSED WITH YOUR ADMINISTRATION? LAST TIME WAS THAT AS THEY COME TO THE BOARD, BOARD PRESIDENT WAS FORWARDING THAT TO ME.

AND WE HAVE A DOCUMENT THAT WE CREATED A LINK INSIDE THE NEWSLETTER THAT WILL GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON THOSE SCENARIOS AS WE TALKED LAST WEEK.

OKAY. IDENTIFIABLE DATE A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF WHAT THAT EMAILS ABOUT, WHO I REFER TO TOO, AND WHERE WE ARE WITH IT.

OKAY. SO AND DOES IT STATE WHO THAT LETTER IS, WHO THAT LETTER COMES FROM, OR IS THAT INFORMATION REDACTED? I HAD NOT PUT A SPACE FOR INDIVIDUALS NAME, BUT WE ARE REFERENCING THE DATE AND TIME STAMP IN THAT INFORMATION.

OKAY. SO MY RECOMMENDATION IS IF THERE IS ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS THAT IS SENT TO ME, ANY LETTERS THAT ARE SENT TO THE. UM.

BOARD OF TRUSTEES FROM THE COMMUNITY BOARD.

BOARD OR A TRUSTEE.

NOT APOLOGIZE.

REPHRASE. IF THERE IS ANY IDENTIFIABLE LETTERS ADDRESSED TO THE BOARD OR A TRUSTEE FROM THE COMMUNITY.

UM, THAT IS FORWARDED TO THE BOARD PRESIDENT AND OR SUPERINTENDENT THAT IS ACTUALLY IN FACT FORWARDED TO THE ENTIRE BOARD.

SO ANY IDENTIFIABLE LETTERS ADDRESSED TO THE BOARD OR A TRUSTEE FROM THE COMMUNITY WILL BE FORWARDED TO NOT ONLY THE BOARD PRESIDENT OR THE SUPERINTENDENT, BUT TO THE ENTIRE BOARD.

THAT IS THE REQUEST FOR MY RECOMMENDATION.

USUALLY YOU GET A COPY OF THAT, BUT OF COURSE, IF IT'S JUST SENT TO ONE PERSON, MOST DEFINITELY.

WHENEVER WE RESPOND TO THOSE, USUALLY GOES TO EVERYONE.

HOWEVER, THE PRACTICE OF MANY STAKEHOLDERS HAVE BEEN WHEN THEY EMAIL YOU, THEIR EMAIL AND EVERYBODY ELSE.

AND I UNDERSTAND THAT.

SO I THINK THE IDENTIFIABLE PIECE TRUSTEE WHITFIELD IS BECAUSE LATER ON IN THIS DOCUMENT, IT TALKS ABOUT THE BOARD NOT ADDRESSING ANONYMOUS LETTERS OR EMAILS OR CALLS.

RIGHT. SO I GUESS THAT'S WHY THE WORD IDENTIFIABLE, IS THERE? NOT THAT YOU'VE QUESTIONED THAT, BUT I'M JUST CLARIFYING THAT.

YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU.

MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE ANY IDENTIFIABLE LETTERS ADDRESSED TO THE BOARD AND OF COURSE, THAT ACCEPT FROM BECAUSE ANYTHING THAT'S ANONYMOUS DO NOT GET ADDRESSED.

BUT IDENTIFIABLE LETTERS ADDRESSED TO THE BOARD OR A TRUSTEE FROM THE COMMUNITY WILL BE FORWARDED TO THE ENTIRE BOARD OR SUPERINTENDENT.

WELL. AND.

SUPERINTENDENT, NOT PRESIDENT OR SUPERINTENDENT, BUT THE ENTIRE BOARD AND SUPERINTENDENT.

THAT IS THE RECOMMENDATION THAT I'M REQUESTING AND THE VERBIAGE SO THAT IF YOU ARE SENT DIRECTLY, YOU WANT IT AGAIN.

SO WHAT I'M ASKING, I'M JUST CLARIFYING.

CLEAR THE EMAIL COMMUNICATION ORIGINALLY.

DO YOU WANT THAT AGAIN? IT HOW EVER IT IS PLACE.

IF I'M SENT SOMETHING AND I SEND IT OUT, IT'S TO GO TO THE ENTIRE BOARD.

I GUESS THE UNDERSTANDING IS HOW IT'S SENT OUT TO THE ENTIRE BOARD BECAUSE.

THAT'S NOT CLARIFIED ON.

SO IF I SUBMIT IT OVER TO THE IF I RECEIVE SOMETHING AND I RESCINDED TO YOURSELF AND OR THE THE PRESIDENT THEN.

IT NEEDS TO BE FORWARDED TO THE ENTIRE BOARD.

SO IF I GET IT AGAIN, THEN THAT'S JUST WHAT IT IS.

BUT WHAT I AM, WHAT I'M LOOKING TO DO AND HOPEFULLY TO COMMUNICATE, IS TRANSPARENCY OF WHAT'S COMING IN AND MAKE SURE THAT

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EVERYONE IS AWARE OF THE IDENTIFIABLE LETTERS THAT ARE COME, THAT THAT HAS COME IN AND THAT IT IS SUBMITTED TO THE ENTIRE BOARD.

AND WHEN IT'S IF NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED, IT IS ADDRESSED AS WELL AS A FOLLOW UP BACK TO THE ENTIRE BOARD.

AND WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE.

FROM WHAT I HAVE SEEN, THIS IS NOT THE CASE.

AND I THINK THAT EVERYONE SHOULD BE AWARE, EVEN THE WORLD MADE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE AWARE.

SO, YES, IF IT GOES OUT, IF I SEND IT OUT AND IT COMES BACK TO ME AGAIN, THEN THAT'S PART OF THE AND AS PART OF THE PROCEDURE.

AND THEN AS LONG AS LAW IS FOLLOWED OR PROCEDURE IS FOLLOWED.

OKAY. THANK YOU. MR. BRYANT, DID YOU GET THAT? I HAVE A COMMENT ON THIS ITEM.

I WANT TO CAUTION THIS COMMITTEE TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE GOVERNANCE.

WE DO NOT MICROMANAGE WHEN CITIZENS SEND CONCERNS, COMPLAINTS TO THE BOARD OR TO H.R. WE HAVE TO BE VERY CAUTIOUS WITH UNDERSTANDING OUR PROCESS IS BECAUSE WE ARE THE LAST PERSON TO HEAR THE GRIEVANCE.

IF WE GET INFORMATION THAT COULD END UP IN A GRIEVANCE, ALL OF US WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO HEAR THE GRIEVANCE BECAUSE WE HAD THE INFORMATION THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE HANDLED AT THE SUPERINTENDENT AND AT THE SUPERINTENDENT LEVEL.

AND I ALSO WANT TO CAUTION, CAUTION BOARD MEMBERS IS.

WE HAVE A ROLE AS BOARD MEMBERS AND WHEN COMMUNITY MEMBERS CONTACT US. AND ESPECIALLY IF THEY DON'T PROVIDE THEIR NAMES.

WE CAN'T EVEN THE SUPERINTENDENT CANNOT ADDRESS AN ISSUE IF SHE DON'T HAVE A NAME.

BUT IF SHE HAD A NAME, I WANT TO CAUTION.

THIS BOARD ABOUT SENDING COMMUNITY MEMBERS, EMPLOYEES AND STUDENTS THROUGH THE INTERNET SO EVERYONE CAN SEE THEIR NAMES.

THAT IS A LAWSUIT.

NOW, THIS IS MY OPINION, AND I AM GOING TO ASK WITH THAT STATEMENT THAT I SAID THAT OUR ATTORNEYS ADDRESS THIS ISSUE AND IF NEED TO BE.

UM. GET EITHER THE COMMISSIONER OF EDUCATION OR THE DIRECTOR OF GOVERNANCE, BECAUSE THIS IS BEYOND US AND WE CANNOT GO BELOW THE SUPERINTENDENT.

AND SO THIS IS A STATE ISSUE OF IDENTIFYING INDIVIDUALS AND KNOWING THAT WE ARE THE LAST PROCESS IN THIS DISTRICT TO HEAR GRIEVANCES.

SO THAT'S MY POSITION.

IT'S RECORDED, MISS BRYANT.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO STATE ALL OF THAT.

BUT I DO STATE THAT I AM REQUESTING THAT THIS INFORMATION BE PROVIDED TO THE BOARD PRESIDENT IN HER ABSENCE TODAY AND TO BE SENT TO OUR ATTORNEYS AND TO BE SENT TO GOVERNANCE DIRECTOR AND THE COMMISSIONER OF EDUCATION.

AND THE IDENTIFIED ISSUE THAT I HAVE IS MICROMANAGING.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO MENTION, UM, WHAT YOU STATED IS.

AND IT IS STATED THAT THE COMMUNITY, STUDENTS, TEACHERS, WHOMEVER.

AH, DO HAVE THE RIGHT TO APPROACH THE TRUSTEE AND EXPRESS ANY CONCERNS THAT THEY MAY HAVE.

WHAT MAKES IT A CONFLICT IS IF WE GIVE RECOMMENDATIONS AND OR RESPONSES TO THEIR CONCERNS WITHOUT.

INSTEAD OF PROVIDING THEM WITH THE CHAIN OF COMMAND AND AND LETTING THEM AND ADVISING THEM TO GO THAT ROUTE.

IF WE GIVE ANY RECOMMENDATION, THAT IS WHAT PUT US AT RISK.

BUT JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE COMES TO US WITH THE CONCERN, DO NOT DOES NOT THAT DO NOT MEAN THAT WE HAVE TO RECUSE OURSELVES OR WE CANNOT SIT IN A GRIEVANCE OR WHAT HAVE YOU.

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IT IS HOW WE RESPOND TO THEIR CONCERNS IS WHAT PUT IT AT CONFLICT.

JUST STATING IN THIS LAW, IS THAT IT? IT MAY NOT BE, BUT RIGHT AT THE MOMENT IT IS SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD.

OKAY. SO FIRSTLY, STEVENSON, OVER THE LAST YEAR, HOW MANY SNAIL MAIL LETTERS HAVE YOU GOTTEN ANY? SO, I MEAN, THE FIRST THING I WOULD RECOMMEND IS THAT WE EQUATE LETTERS WITH EMAILS ALSO.

MM. BECAUSE THAT'S THE PRIMARY MODE OF COMMUNICATION THAT WE GET FROM THE CONSTITUENTS.

I RARELY GET LETTERS HERE, BUT I GET THEM.

NOBODY DOES SNAIL MAIL ANYMORE.

EXCEPT YOURSELF, IF YOU OWE SOMEBODY.

RIGHT. YEAH.

SO, MISS BRYANT.

HOLD ON. ONE AT A TIME.

SO BRYANT CAN GET THAT MISS BRYANT WITH YOU.

INDICATE THAT WE WILL BRING TO THE BOARD TO VOTE ON HOW THEY WOULD LIKE TO PROCEED ON TRUSTEE STEVENS RECOMMENDATION.

ON HOW MANY LETTERS VERSUS EMAILS? NO, THAT'S NOT THE POINT.

WE KNOW THAT HE WAS SAYING, ED, WHAT? OH, YOU KNOW HOW MANY WE GET EMAILS AS WELL AS LETTERS.

MHM. OKAY. YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING.

OKAY. AND THEN YOU GOT THAT.

OKAY. AND THEN GOING FURTHER FROM THAT, WE WANT TO.

YOU SEE, EVERY TIME YOU ACTUALLY READ SOMETHING, YOU COME UP WITH ISSUES BECAUSE YOU KNOW IT IS WHAT IT IS ON THE PAGE.

BUT THAT'S A BIG ISSUE THAT YOU OPEN UP BECAUSE DR.

PRAYER, JUST LIKE THE EMAIL THAT I GOT AND I SENT YOU, RIGHT, AND WE SEND THAT TO THE SUPERINTENDENT TO MAKE A DECISION AS TO WHAT TO DO WITH IT.

TRUSTEE WHITFIELD'S POINT WAS FOR CLARITY TO MAKE SURE ALL OF THE ALL THE TRUSTEES GET THE SAME INFORMATION.

AND I GET THAT. I UNDERSTAND THAT TOO.

THAT'S A GOOD POINT.

MM. SO TO CLEAN THIS WHOLE THING UP, MY STATEMENT WOULD BE IDENTIFIABLE.

COMMUNICATIONS LETTERS OR EMAILS SHALL BE FORWARDED TO THE SUPERINTENDENT FOR DISPOSITION THAT OUR SUPERINTENDENT IS TRUSTED TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS AS TO WHAT TO DO.

OKAY. IT'S EASY.

YOU WILL SEE THAT EMAIL.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE DO RIGHT NOW, RIGHT IN THE EMAIL, THE NEWSLETTER FOR TODAY.

THERE THERE'S A BANNER THAT SAYS, CLICK HERE, EMAIL PARENT CONCERN.

YOU CLICK ON THAT AND WE'LL TAKE YOU TO A DATABASE THAT SHARES WITH YOU THAT EXACT EMAIL.

I WILL SAY THAT THAT PERSON THAT EMAILS YOU IS NOT A PARENT.

ALTHOUGH THE PRINCIPAL DID ADDRESS THE STAFF MEMBER REGARDING THAT INFORMATION.

AND SO THAT THE PERSON IS NOT A PARENT, THOUGH.

AND, YOU KNOW, I DON'T I DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT.

MY ONLY CONCERN WAS TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU GOT IT AND HAD SOMEBODY LOOK INTO IT.

AND I WILL SAY OUR PRESIDENT HAS BEEN VERY GOOD ABOUT FORWARDING THOSE TO ME, BECAUSE SOMETIMES I MAY IT MAY APPEAR THAT I'M COPIED BECAUSE PEOPLE MISSPELL MY NAME. IT DOESN'T COME TO ME, BUT THAT ONE IN PARTICULAR DID.

BUT SHE DOES. SHE DOES A GOOD JOB REPORTING ANY OF THOSE THAT INFORMATION TO ME TO LOOK INTO.

AND SO AS I RECEIVE THOSE, I WILL NOTE THOSE HERE AS WE DISCUSSED.

SO THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION TO CLEAN THE WORDING UP, MAKE IT CLEAR SO IT'S UNEQUIVOCAL.

YOU READ THE SENTENCE AND YOU KNOW WHAT IT MEANS.

SO I WOULD RECOMMEND WE PRESENT THAT TO THE BOARD FOR REPLACEMENT OF THOSE FIRST STATEMENTS.

DO YOU WANT TO WRITE THAT OUT SO MONIQUE CAN GET VERBATIM TO WHAT YOU JUST STATED? BECAUSE IT WILL HAVE TO GO TO THE BOARD FOR A VOTE.

AND IT WAS KIND OF LENGTHY.

SO IF YOU DON'T MIND, IF YOU WASN'T.

I'M SORRY. NO, IT WAS A LENGTHY.

NO. SO BASICALLY HE WAS SAYING JUST ADD IDENTIFIABLE COMMUNICATIONS AND EMAILS WITH THE LETTERS.

THOSE EMAILS.

RIGHT. OKAY.

IS IT INTENDED FOR DISPOSITION? CORRECT. PERIOD. ALL RIGHT, GREAT.

THAT SOUNDS GOOD.

SO, UM.

MS.. BRYANT YOU HAVE THAT TO BE A PART OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE BOARD.

AND I'M CONFIDENT WITH THE WITH HAVING THE SUPERINTENDENT MAKE THE DECISION AS TO HOW TO GO, WHAT TO DO WITH IT.

OKAY, GREAT.

AND WITH THAT, UM, IF A I GUESS A FOLLOW UP IS GIVEN.

SO IF A, UM, AN EMAIL IS COME TO THE TRUSTEES, WE FORWARDED THAT TO THE SUPERINTENDENT THEN.

THE. AS FAR AS THE FOLLOW UP BACK TO THE TRUSTEES, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT AS WELL.

AS FAR AS WHAT IS TAKING PLACE OR THE OUTCOME? DID YOU GET THAT, MISS BRYANT?

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IF YOU ALL WOULD LET IT BE NOTED THAT TRUSTEE KLAUS WALKED INTO THE MEETING AT 620.

THANK YOU. SO, MR. LEWIS, TO BRING YOU UP TO DATE, UP TO WHERE WE ARE, WE ARE ON PAGE SEVEN AND WE ARE REVIEWING, REVIEWING AGAIN THE TOP OF SEVEN.

I THINK WE THE DISCUSSION WAS H ABOUT INFORMATION AND HOW IT'S PRESENTED TO THE BOARD PRESIDENT OR THE SUPERINTENDENT AND WHAT THE BOARD WOULD LIKE TO ASK WHAT THE WHAT MS..

WHITFIELD AND MR. STEVENS WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE BOARD APPROVAL ON.

THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME.

AND IT'S PAGE SEVEN, SIR.

SO WHAT YOU ALL LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD? ARE YOU STILL HAVE MORE QUESTIONS? I WOULD LIKE TO CLARIFY IF MR. LEWIS AT THIS TIME HAD HAD ANY NOTED QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS CLEAR UP UNTIL PAGE SEVEN, BOARD AND SUPERINTENDENT, IF THERE WAS ANYTHING THAT YOU MAY HAVE NOTED THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO BRING FORTH THIS RECOMMENDATION? NOT AT THIS TIME.

IT'S WHITFIELD OR TRUSTEE, WE FEEL.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

ARE WE MOVING TO BOARD AND SUPERINTENDENT? WE ARE READY. YES.

OKAY. SO DO ANYONE HAVE ANY CONCERNS, CHANGES OR RECOMMENDATION TO BOARDING SUPERINTENDENTS? WHAT DETERMINATIVE I'M THIS GUY HAVE ALREADY BEEN THROUGH, RIGHT? NO, NOT NECESSARILY ALL THE TIME.

ANY OF THE INFORMATION THAT'S AVAILABLE.

I THINK WHAT IS HAPPENING INSTEAD OF AND THIS IS MY OPINION INSTEAD OF INDIVIDUAL.

COMMITTEE MEMBERS.

OUR ALREADY COME AS WE READ THROUGH THIS, THE QUESTIONS ARE COMING UP WHICH ARE OKAY.

BUT IT KEEPS US TO GO BACK AND FORWARD WITH NOT US BEING CONSCIENTIOUS OF TIME AND EFFORT TO GET THROUGH THIS 13 PAGE DOCUMENT.

WELL, 12 PAGE DOCUMENT.

AND SO ANYONE THAT HAVE ANY CONCERNS THAT THEY ARE READING THROUGH THAT THEY WANT TO ADDRESS NOW, AND IF YOU WILL, PLEASE IDENTIFY YOUR RECOMMENDATION AS IT RELATES TO POLICY, BECAUSE THIS IS IN CASE BOARD MEMBERS REQUEST INFORMATION NOT RELATED TO A MEETING AGENDA.

MY RECOMMENDATION FOR SECTION A.

IS TO PUT A TIME FRAME IN THE TIME FRAME FROM LAW.

INTO. SO BASICALLY BECAUSE IN PERLOFF, I'M JUST PARAPHRASING IT STATES THAT THERE IS THE SUPERINTENDENT HAS 20 DAYS TO REPLY WITH A REQUEST IF IT'S GOING TO TAKE LONGER THAN 20 DAYS.

THERE NEEDS TO BE A FOLLOW UP ADVISING THAT IT WILL BE LONGER AND WHY.

AND THEN THE MAX IS 30 DAYS.

IF THERE IS A SITUATION AS IT RELATES TO THE AGENDA, THEN IT AGENDA AND IT NEEDS TO GO TO THE BOARD TO BASICALLY TO SEE IF IT'S AN ITEM THAT THAT IS BEING REQUESTED, NEEDS TO BE PLACED ON THE AGENDA AND DISCUSSED.

UM, AND DOCUMENTS OBTAINED THAT WAY IN THE SECTION.

I DO NOT SEE THAT, BUT I WANT TO BE CLEAR.

WHERE ARE YOU GETTING THE 20 DAYS? NO, I'M SAYING ON THIS DOCUMENT.

THAT'S MY POINT. IT'S NOT IN THERE.

WHAT I'M STATING. SO ARE YOU.

DID DID YOU.

ARE YOU AWARE OF THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT? AND THE OPEN RECORDS ACT MAKING A RECOMMENDATION I'M VERY AWARE OF.

SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHERE THE 20 DAYS IS THAT EVERYBODY, EVERY ELECTED OFFICIAL IN THE STATE OF TEXAS, EVEN OUR ADMINISTRATION, HAS TO ABIDE BY.

SO, TRUSTEE MORRISON, WHAT I AM REQUIRING MORE IS, I'M SORRY.

TRUSTEE MORSE WHAT I AM RECOMMENDING ARE YOU STATING THAT THIS IS UP FOR DEBATE OR UP FOR DISCUSSION ONCE IT'S PRESENTED TO THE BOARD? NO, NO, I WAS JUST LETTING YOU KNOW THAT BECAUSE WE WERE WORKING ON THIS DOCUMENT AND WHEN YOU STATED 20 DAYS, THE 20 DAYS

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IS AN OPEN RECORDS REQUEST THAT THE BOARD I MEAN, THE ADMINISTRATION HAVE TO GET THE INFORMATION TO WHOEVER REQUESTED IT.

AND NOT ONLY IS IT 20 DAYS, BUT IF IT'S NOT PRESENTED WITHIN 20 DAYS, THE DOCUMENTS, THEN IT IS STEPS TO GO THROUGH THE SECRETARY OF STATE TO GET THE INFORMATION.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS REFERRING TO.

I WAS TRYING TO GET CLARITY ON THE 20 DAYS BECAUSE I DIDN'T SEE IT HERE IN THIS DOCUMENT.

AND THAT'S THE REASON THAT'S MY RECOMMENDATION, IS THAT A TIME FRAME BASED THE TIME FRAME THAT COMES THAT IS BASED ON LAW IS REFERENCED IN THIS SECTION. SO WE ARE AWARE AND EVERYONE IS AWARE WHEN THEY REVIEW THIS PROCEDURE WHAT IS TO TAKE PLACE, HOW LONG YOU HAVE, AND ALSO THE STEPS IF IT'S GOING TO TAKE LONGER.

THAT'S MY RECOMMENDATION THAT YOU GET MS..

WHITFIELD'S RECOMMENDATION AND MINE'S.

MS.. BRYANT IS THAT THE PART OF THE OPEN RECORDS REQUESTS BE PRESENTED TO EACH BOARD MEMBER TO REVIEW WHEN THAT QUESTION COME UP ON OPEN RECORDS AND DOCUMENTS? WAIT A MINUTE. THANK YOU. TRUSTEES DON'T DO OPEN RECORDS.

I'M NOT DEBATING THAT.

I'M JUST GIVING I CAN MAKE MY REQUEST.

AND I MADE MY REQUEST TO MS..

BRIAN TO ASK TO PUT ON THE AGENDA FOR THE BOARD MEMBERS SO WE CAN SAY WE CAN ASK ANYTHING WE WANT TO THAT'S GOING TO BE ON THE AGENDA.

RIGHT. CAN I MAY I ASK SOMETHING, PLEASE? YOU SURE CAN.

OKAY. WHAT MS..

WHITFIELD IS REFERRING TO IS A SECTION OF THE EDUCATION CODE THAT SAYS TRUSTEES HAVE A RIGHT, AN INHERENT RIGHT TO INFORMATION.

AND PART OF THAT IS IT'S UNEQUIVOCAL.

IT DOESN'T SAY THAT IF THERE SAY, FOR EXAMPLE, HERE, THAT WILL DETERMINE IF THE INFORMATION IS REQUESTED IS AVAILABLE FROM EXISTING SOURCES.

OR REQUIRES A SPECIAL ONE TIME ON THE REPORT DOESN'T SAY THAT AND SAY THAT IF THE REQUESTED INFORMATION IT DOESN'T SAY ANY OF THIS.

IN FACT, ALL OF THIS IS EXACTLY OPPOSED TO WHAT IT SAYS BECAUSE IT SAYS THE TRUSTEES REQUESTS AND INFORMATION DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ON AN AGENDA.

NOW, WHAT IT DOES SAYS, JUST LIKE TRUSTEE WHITFIELD MENTIONED, WAS THAT THE ADMINISTRATION HAS 20 DAYS TO PRODUCE THAT INFORMATION.

AND IF THEY CAN, THEY GOT UP TO 30 DAYS.

THEN IT SAYS IF THEY DON'T, THEN THEY CAN BE SUED AND ARE WELL, BASICALLY YOU LOSE NO MATTER WHAT.

OKAY. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT THE LAW SAYS.

OKAY. SO THESE THESE ITEMS HERE ARE STRICTLY ILLEGAL, BASICALLY.

OKAY. I MEAN, IF IF THIS NOBODY US AS A BOARD AND US AS A COMMITTEE DON'T WANT TO ADMIT THAT, THEN WE I THINK IT'S IMPERATIVE THAT WE GET LEGAL SOME LEGAL HELP WITH IT.

WELL, EVERYBODY BETTER THAN OUR ATTORNEYS WE GOT RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE THEY'RE CLEARLY NOT.

NOT. SO WHAT'S YOUR RECOMMENDATION TO THIS SECTION? SHOULD WE GO ON OR SHOULD WE STOP IT RIGHT HERE AND MOVE TO THE NEXT ONE? DO YOU HAVE DONE WHAT I RECOMMENDED EARLIER? FOR LEGAL COUNSEL FOR SEVEN A.

OKAY. SO THAT'S YOUR RECOMMENDATION ON THIS ONE, TOO? I MEAN, THIS IS SO FAR OUT OF BOUNDS THAT IT SHOULDN'T EVEN BE UP FOR CONSIDERATION.

OKAY? I MEAN, IF WE CAN'T AGREE THAT IT'S WRONG, THEN MAYBE WE NEED THE ATTORNEY GENERAL GENERAL TO TELL US IT'S WRONG.

OKAY. THAT'S YOUR OPINION, AND I RESPECT THAT.

THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE IT.

YOU'RE WELCOME. IF I MAY, I WILL OFFER.

I'M SORRY. YEAH.

IF I MAY, I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO REQUEST FOR A NUMBER FOR TO BE STRIKED FROM A.

THAT'S ACTUALLY WHAT EDEN ADDRESSED WITH YOU GUYS ON THURSDAY.

THAT WE ARE NOT TO CREATE NEW DOCUMENTS.

IF IT DOESN'T ALREADY EXIST.

WELL, OKAY, YOU KNOW.

I WAS NOT IMPRESSED WITH THE SKILL OF THE.

ME NEITHER. BUT I MEAN, I MEAN, IT'S PART OF IT.

AND IN FACT, THE LAW DOES INDICATE THAT.

I MEAN, WE CAN'T BE GOING OUT AND REQUESTING YOU GUYS TO COMPILE A LOT OF INFORMATION AND MAKE REPORTS THAT DON'T ALREADY EXIST.

BUT IF WE ASK FOR A REPORT THAT EXISTS, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ON AN AGENDA.

IT JUST HAS TO BE FORWARDED OVER IN THESE DAYS OF ELECTRONIC COMMUNICATION.

THAT SHOULDN'T BE DIFFICULT AT ALL AND THERE SHOULDN'T BE ANY CONSTERNATION OR ARGUMENT ABOUT IT.

JUST MY ONE.

IS THAT. WHAT ABOUT WHAT?

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THANK YOU. AGAIN, I DON'T MIND IF IT'S OKAY.

OH, I GOT IT, I GOT IT, I GOT EM.

I GOT THEM ALL. OOH, DID YOU GET THAT ON TAPE? I'M SURE YOU DON'T.

I'M SORRY, BUT IT WAS GOING DOWN.

YOUR JACKET. OH, WELL, I'M SO SORRY.

YEAH. WERE YOU AWARE? YEAH, HE.

HE FLEW THAT WAY.

I SAW.

YOU WANT TO TAKE YOUR JACKET OFF AT? NO. AND SHAKE IT OUT.

DON'T LET THE EXTERIOR FOOL YOU, OKAY? WE THOUGHT YOU WERE TOUGHER THAN THAT.

OKAY. YOU'RE A GIRLY GIRL.

I AM A COUNTRY GIRL, BUT I DON'T DO BOOKS.

UM, I FORGOT MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT.

I'M SO SORRY.

YOU WERE AT. YOUR PEOPLE HAVE WORK TO DO.

NO, NO, I WAS HEARING THAT.

THAT THEY DO HAVE TO ASK.

AND SO EVEN WITH OPEN RECORDS, WE DON'T CREATE NEW DOCUMENTS.

AND IF WE DO, THERE HAS TO BE A SPECIAL SITUATION GOING ON WITH THAT.

AND I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY WHY IT'S HERE.

TO HAVE THE BOARD DIRECT THAT AS OPPOSED TO INDIVIDUAL.

SO, OKAY, THAT'S BEEN A PRACTICE I WOULD ACKNOWLEDGE.

I WOULD ACKNOWLEDGE THAT STAFF HAS LOTS OF WORK TO DO.

THEY'RE VERY BUSY AND I WOULD COUNTER WITH.

RESPONDING TO REQUESTS AND WORK FOR THE BOARD IS PART OF THEIR DUTIES.

AND I NOT HAVE NO, IT'S NOT THEIRS.

IT'S MINE. IT'S NOT THEIR YOU'RE NOT GOING TO DO THIS STUFF.

YOU HAVE TO DIRECT SOMEBODY TO DO IT.

BUT IS MINE NOT THERE? SO. WELL, I MEAN, I DON'T WANT TO BE CRUDE OR ANYTHING AND SAY IT'S YOUR JOB.

YOU KNOW, I SAY THE ADMINISTRATION, YOU KNOW, BUT YOU DIRECT THE ADMINISTRATION.

AND I'M FULLY, FULLY AWARE THAT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO DO IT.

YOU'RE GOING TO POINT TO THE APPROPRIATE PERSON AND SAY, GET IT DONE.

ALL I'M SAYING IS THAT.

YOU KNOW, AS A BOARD, WE KIND OF MATTER AND THE THINGS WE WANT MATTERS.

AND THAT'S THAT'S PART OF YOUR JOB.

I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND SOMEONE LIKE MISS BRYANT IS SHE DOES GREAT WORK AND SHE'S A WONDERFUL PERSON AND SHE CAN ONLY DO SO MUCH.

MAYBE SHE NEEDS SOME HELP RESPONDING TO WORK FOR US.

MR. STEVENS, IF MY IF I MAY INTERJECT, IF WE COULD GET BACK ON THE ISSUE OF HERE AND SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THE NEXT ITEM, IF YOU DON'T MIND.

NOW, AFTER THE MEETING IS OVER, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO DIALOG MORE ABOUT INDIVIDUALS ON STAFF AND THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES, PLEASE FEEL FREE. BUT IF WE CAN STAY ON TOPIC TO OUR SUGGESTIONS OR RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE ARE GOING TO PRESENT TO THE BOARD.

OKAY. SO MY MS..

BRIAN, IF YOU CAN PLEASE LIST THE REQUEST FOR MY RECOMMENDATION IS TO STRIKE FOR.

7847847. PAGE.

EIGHT FOUR. YES, MA'AM.

ON THE BOARD AND SUPERINTENDENT.

OKAY, WE'RE ON FIVE.

IS THERE ANY CONCERNS OR RECOMMENDATIONS FOR A NUMBER FIVE? CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT AS TO WHETHER THIS IS EVEN LAWFUL.

WELL TAKEN AND ALSO.

RIGHT, WELL TAKEN.

WOULD YOU PUT A FIVE THAT MR. STEVENS HAS STATED THAT AS WELL SHOULD BE STRIKING? CAN WE GO TO SIX? MAY I? PLEASE.

THAT'S THE POINT. THE WHOLE POINT OF LEGAL ANALYSIS TO TELL US WHETHER THESE THINGS ARE EVEN PERMISSIBLE.

WELL, WE'RE GOING TO GET THAT ANALYSIS.

THAT'S WHY WE WERE.

THERE WAS NO OTHER CONVERSATION BECAUSE YOU STATED IT SHOULDN'T BE HERE.

I'M JUST TRYING TO GET THEM TO AT LEAST GET OFF SEVEN.

IT'S 635.

WE SO CAN WE IF IT IF IT'S YOUR OPINION THAT IT SHOULDN'T BE HERE.

THAT'S THE RECOMMENDATION YOU ARE MAKING TO THE BOARD.

SO CAN WE GO TO SIX? ABSOLUTELY. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. DO ANY BOARD MEMBER HAVE ANY CONCERNS OR DISAGREEMENTS WITH.

ITEM SIX ON THE BOARD WILL EVALUATE THE SUPERINTENDENT IN SEPTEMBER, THEN THAT CHANGE.

TO. IS WE EVER A MONO MONITORING SUPERINTENDENCE? I'M SORRY. ACTUALLY, I'M SORRY.

WE DON'T. RIGHT.

ACTUALLY, IT'S.

IT'S ALREADY. WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO THAT PART.

I APOLOGIZE. MY APOLOGIES.

NO PROBLEM. THAT THE INFORMATION IS IMPORTANT FOR FUTURE DECISION MAKING.

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I TAKE IT BACK. THAT PART IS PRETTY MUCH CONSISTENT WITH THE STATUTE.

IT'S. DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENT? ALL RIGHT. SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD.

IF WE COULD MOVE NOW TO MONITORING SUPERINTENDENCE PERFORMANCE.

DO ANYONE HAVE ANY CONCERNS? UM, JUST TO CLARIFY, THE BOARD WILL EVALUATE.

SUPERINTENDENT, IN WHAT MONTH IS THAT AGAIN? IT JUST SAYS THREE TIMES A YEAR.

MY CONTRACT HAS MORE SPECIFICS, BUT THIS SAYS THREE TIMES A YEAR.

SO WE DON'T HAVE A I THOUGHT WE HAD A MONTH BUT ALSO AS.

UM, WE HAVEN'T DONE IT YET, BUT WE'RE DONE HERE.

ARE YOU KIDDING ME? NO, NO, WE SET.

YOU SET. BUT YOUR GOALS WERE LATE, RIGHT? SO YOU COULDN'T DO THAT AT THE BEGINNING.

SO THAT THE FIRST ONE IS REALLY SETTING THE GOALS.

SO WE'RE THERE. THE NEXT ONE COMES BEFORE MARCH ONE.

RIGHT THEN THE LAST ONE COMES BEFORE JULY ONE AND JUNE ONE.

ONE IS IS NOT REALLY AN EVALUATION, ALTHOUGH THAT'S PART OF THE EVALUATION.

YOU SET THE GOALS, BUT YOU SET THE GOALS.

YOUR GOALS ARE MY GOALS.

SO. WHAT IS WHEN IS THE EVALUATION? THAT'S BEFORE THE WELL, THE MID-YEAR BEFORE MARCH ONE, THE END OF THE YEAR.

THE SUMMATIVE ONE IS BEFORE JULY ONE.

SO WE DON'T HAVE A DATE.

SO WE DON'T HAVE LIKE HERE IS THEY SEPTEMBER.

YEAH. BUT THIS IS AGAIN FROM 2019.

YEAH. THIS IS THIS IS OUTDATED.

THIS SUPERINTENDENT ONLY HAD ONE EVALUATION A YEAR RIGHT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR, EVERY YEAR.

SO IT WOULD BE JANUARY.

SO I'M TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THIS UPDATED.

SO IF YOU JUST HAVE THREE TIMES A YEAR BECAUSE MY, MY CONTRACT SPECIFIES WHEN AND IF YOU SAY THREE TIMES A YEAR, YOU'RE OKAY WITH THAT.

OKAY, SO THREE TIMES.

THE FIRST TIME IS INITIAL GOALS, WHICH YOU'VE DONE AS A BOARD.

AND WE WERE PRESENTING SOME INFORMATION HERE.

THAT'S WHAT YOU SEE POSTED AROUND HERE, OUR GOALS AND PERFORMANCE OBJECTIVES AND THEN THE MID-YEAR REVIEW ON THESE GOALS.

THE PROGRESSION OF THESE WILL BE BEFORE MARCH ONE AND THEN THE END OF THE YEAR IS BEFORE JULY ONE.

AND THEN YOU'RE SETTING NEW GOALS OR REINFORCING OR TWEAKING THE ONES THAT YOU HAD.

OKAY. SO, MISS BRYANT, IF WE MAY PLACE A, UM, UNDER.

RECOMMENDATION FOR REVIEW WITH THE BOARD.

JUST FOR CLARIFICATION. WHICH ONE? A I'M SORRY. A ONE.

SO THIS CAN BE UPDATED.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

OKAY. MS..

BRYANT, I WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND THAT WE INSERT THREE TIMES A YEAR AND WE WILL BE MOVING LIKE MARCH 1ST. AND I THINK THE SUPERINTENDENT IS HER EVALUATION.

SO I'M SURE SHE KNOWS EXACTLY WHEN IT WILL HAPPEN AND BEFORE JULY ONE.

OKAY. AND SO WITH MY STAFF AS WELL THAT THE INITIAL IS BEFORE THE GOAL SETTING IS BEFORE OCTOBER ONE, WHICH WE MET, RIGHT? MM HMM. THE SECOND ONE IS MID-YEAR, AND THAT'S BEFORE MARCH ONE.

AND THEN AGAIN, THE SUMMATIVE AT THE END OF THE YEAR IS BEFORE JULY ONE.

SO. OKAY. ON.

OKAY, WE'RE AT EIGHT. EIGHT ONE.

EVALUATION OF SUPERINTENDENT WOULD BE IN CLOSED SESSION.

DOESN'T THE SUPERINTENDENT CAN SELECT OPEN SESSION IF SHE CHOOSES.

YEAH. I HAVE THE CHOICE. SHOULD THAT BE INSERTED ALSO? YEAH, IT'S MY. IT'S MY CHOICE.

YEAH. ME AND THE OPTION.

IT. IT'S. IT'S CLOSED SESSION.

UNLESS I SAY OTHERWISE.

NO, IT'S JUST CLOSED.

NO, I UNDERSTAND.

THAT'S YOUR CHOICE.

BUT IN HERE, IT'S JUST CLARIFYING THAT IT CAN BE CLOSED OR OPEN.

IT'S JUST IDENTIFYING.

AND AT THAT TIME YOU ARE ASKED.

YEAH, THAT I HAVE THE CHOICE.

YOU ASK US, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE? SO THAT'S YOUR RECOMMENDATION TO IT? YES. OKAY. AND THAT'S THE SAME THING THAT'S IN THE STATUTE BECAUSE ALL THAT COMES DIRECTLY FROM.

OKAY. AND MORE QUESTIONS.

WHAT A ONE.

THANK YOU. CAN WE GO TO PAGE EIGHT OF EIGHT TO.

UM. GUESS ON THAT ONE.

AS A PART OF MY CONTRACT THAT HAS THAT, IT HAS TO BE AGREED UPON BY THE BOARD AND THE SUPERINTENDENT.

THIS ONE SAYS THAT THE BOARD, UM, CAN CHANGE IT.

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BUT IN MY CONTRACT IT SAYS WITH.

BUT I THINK TO US WE CAN PLACE MS..

BRYANT PUT NUMBER TWO DOWN AS A RECOMMENDATION TO BE REVIEWED IN COMPARISON WITH DR.

PEREIRA'S CONTRACT.

SO IF DOES THAT BECOMES A PART OF MY CONTRACT, THEREBY WISHING TO GET OR ANY CHANGES THAT NEEDS TO BE MADE TO TO TO.

REGARD. I'M SORRY, BECAUSE OF DR.

KERR'S CONTRACT, BECAUSE IT DOES SO FOR THE NEW BOARD MEMBERS THAT DO NOT UNDERSTAND HOW THIS PROCESS THAT WE ARE. WE HAD THAT TEAM OF EIGHT AND WE HAD INDIVIDUALS FROM REGION TEN TO EXPRESS TO US.

REMEMBER, THIS IS THE SUPERINTENDENT'S CONTRACT IS NOT OURS.

AND SO IT HAS TO BE AN AGREEMENT WITH THE BOARD AND THE SUPERINTENDENT.

THAT'S NOT UP TO DEBATE.

AND SO, MONET, WOULD YOU PLEASE REMIND THE BOARD THAT THIS IS THE SUPERINTENDENT'S EVALUATION? AND THE SUPERINTENDENT AND THE BOARD BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY IN THE CONTRACT.

THIS IS NOTHING.

THAT WAS NOT THE BOARD VOTED ON THE CHANGE IN THE CONTRACTS.

AND IT WAS IT HAS ALREADY BEEN DISCUSSED.

SO WHAT'S DIFFERENT THAN WHAT I JUST SAID? BECAUSE THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I'M ASKING FOR, TO REVIEW HER CONTRACT SO IT CAN LINE UP WITH NUMBER TWO.

BUT IT IS ALREADY LINED UP WITH NUMBER TWO.

IT'S ALREADY LINED UP.

THE ONLY THING THAT WAS THE SUPERINTENDENT JUST STATED WAS AN INSERT AGREEMENT WITH THE BOARD AND SUPERINTENDENT.

I THINK WE SHOULD UTILIZE THE LANGUAGE EXACTLY FOR MY CONTRACT.

AND THEN THAT WAY CLARIFIES EVERYTHING.

OKAY. CAN CAN WE MAKE CAN WE RECOMMEND THE BOARD TO A LINE NUMBER TWO WITH THE SUPERINTENDENT'S CONTRACT ON THE EVALUATIONS? MAN ONE JUST ONE THING.

YES, SIR. THE SUPERINTENDENT CONTRACT IS, YOU KNOW, IT'S CONTRACT IS WHAT IT IS.

THE ONLY THING WE NEED TO VERIFY IS THAT IT DOESN'T CONFLICT WITH ANYTHING IN THE STATUTE.

AS LONG AS IT DOESN'T, THEN WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING WITH THIS.

IT DOESN'T, BECAUSE MY LAWYER, THE LAWYERS HAVE.

YOU MEAN OUR LAWYERS? NO. THAT'S HOW YOU MISS TICK.

MY DUTY TO MY DUTY TO LOOK SO GOOD BY LAW.

YOU SAW A LEGAL CONTRACT THAT ALIGNS WITH STATUTE.

SO IT IS SO.

AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO STAY FOR THE RECORD, WHATEVER IS IN THE SUPERINTENDENT CONTRACT.

AND THE BOARD AT THAT TIME VOTED ON IT.

WE JUST CAN'T CHANGE IT IN MID.

WE CAN'T CHANGE IT.

IT DON'T WORK LIKE THAT.

UNFORTUNATELY, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I INTENDED TO DO TO CHANGE THE SUPERINTENDENT'S CONTRACT WITH THE AMOUNT.

HOW HARD? HOW HARD? YEAH. I DO FOR FREE.

BRYANT. CAN WE PLEASE.

REQUEST THAT WE CLARIFY THAT WE ARE IN LINE WITH.

WHAT LAW STATES AS IT RELATES.

PLEASE. THANK YOU.

AND THAT'S A DISCUSSION.

THAT'S SOMETHING I WOULD LIKE TO BRING AS DISCUSSION THAT I HAVE NOTED.

AND I WILL BRING IT. OKAY, SO DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS IN REGARDS TO, UH.

IS OUR HR PERSON HERE? YES, MISS BELL? NO, I'M MIKAYLA TAYLOR.

DR. TAYLOR. I'M SORRY.

YOU SEE? I'M SORRY.

DR. TAYLOR. OKAY.

I'M SURE THAT.

ARE YOU ABLE TO CLARIFY SOME CONCERNS THAT THE TRUSTEES MAY HAVE ABOUT THE SUPERINTENDENT'S CONTRACT, EVEN THOUGH THE SUPERINTENDENT IS SITTING HERE AND HAVE BUT YOU AS OUR HR DIRECTOR? PLEASE. THANK YOU.

YOU KNOW, THAT WAS REALLY. LET ME.

SHE GOT. GOOD EVENING.

THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM.

UM, JUST AS DR.

PRYOR STATED, WE DO HAVE THE POLICY THAT SHOWS THE INFORMATION FOR THE SUPERINTENDENT EVALUATION, AND IT WOULD LINE UP, BECAUSE ALSO OUR ATTORNEYS DO REVIEW THAT ON BOTH SIDES BEFORE IT IS THEN DISCUSSED.

I'M NOT BACK THERE WITH YOU ALL IN CLOSED SESSION, BUT THROUGH THAT, I BELIEVE THE ATTORNEY DOES SIT IN WITH YOU ALL.

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SO IF ANYTHING WAS OUT OF ALIGNMENT, THEN PROBABLY WOULD HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED AT THAT TIME.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR INPUT.

YES, MA'AM. AND IS IT? AM I FAIR TO SAY, DR.

TAYLOR? IF THERE IS.

A DEBATE IN MID-YEAR OF THE SUPERINTENDENT'S CONTRACT.

IS THAT A LEGAL ISSUE? USUALLY IT'S LIKE THIS YEAR WAS A ADDENDUM TO THE CONTRACT.

SO WHATEVER THOSE TERMS ARE WOULD BE, UM, WITH THE CONTRACT WOULD BE ENFORCEABLE.

THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

YES, MA'AM. UH HUH.

OKAY. SO WE HEARD MR. WHITFIELD REQUEST THAT YOU GET IT.

MS.. OKAY.

AND SO CAN WE MOVE ON TO EVALUATION OF THE BOARD? UM, THE BOARD WILL ESTABLISH GOALS BY THE END OF AUGUST FOR THE COMING YEAR.

THE GOALS SET WILL CREATE THE BOARD EVALUATION DOCUMENT FOR BOARD SELF EVALUATION IN APRIL.

I WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS THIS WITH THE BOARD AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION IF WE COULD ESTABLISH GOALS BY THE END OF JULY TO BE PREPARED FOR THE SCHOOL YEAR THAT BEGINS IN AUGUST.

SO WHEN WE ARE.

HAVING. YOU KNOW, WHEN WE'RE SETTING FORTH AND WHAT WE HAVE SET FORTH IS ABLE TO BE COMMUNICATED WITH STAFF AHEAD OF TIME, NOT WHEN SCHOOL STARTS.

UM. I WILL.

STATE. MISS BRIAN, DID YOU GET MISS WHITFIELD RECOMMENDATION? YES, MA'AM. AND.

I JUST HAVE A STATEMENT TO MAKE THAT.

THESE MONTHS, AND THIS GOAL SETTING IS SET BY CALENDAR.

AND IT GOES IN WITH THE EVALUATION DOCUMENTS.

SO IF I'M UNDERSTANDING THAT MR. WHITFIELD IS MAKING A RECOMMENDATION TO CHANGE THOSE DATES.

IS THAT FAIR TO SAY? MS..

WHITFIELD I'M MAKING A RECOMMENDATION THAT OUR GOALS END IN JULY, THAT OUR ESTABLISHED GOALS IS BY ITS END, BY THE END OF JULY AND NOT ON.

OKAY. SO YOU ARE MAKING A RECOMMENDATION TO DISCUSS CHANGING THE MONTH THAT THE MONTH OR.

EXACTLY. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. I JUST WANTED TO BE CLEAR ON THAT ONE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

ALL RIGHT, BE.

AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO COMMENT THAT WE HAVE HAD THE TRAIN TRAINING THE TEAM OF EIGHT TRAINING.

UM, WE HAVE ESTABLISHED THE NEW GOALS AND.

AROUND THE WALLS, AS THAT WAS ONE OF THE REASONS TO BE HERE FOR THOSE BOARD MEMBERS HAVE NOT HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO WALK AROUND AND READ BECAUSE WHAT WILL LEAD INTO THE SUPERINTENDENTS EVALUATION OR OUR GOALS, OUR NEW GOALS AND THE COMMITTEE HAS MET. DR.

BARKER DID THEY AND THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

DID THEY MEET WITH IT LAST WEEK OR LAST WEEK? AND ALL OF THIS WAS PUT TOGETHER WITH STAFF AND THE DISTRICT IMPROVEMENT COMMITTEE, AM I SAYING THAT CORRECT? CORRECT. ADVISORY COMMITTEE INCLUDES PARENTS AND STAFF, YES.

SO IF YOU ALL HAVEN'T HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THAT, PLEASE DO.

BECAUSE EVERYTHING IS ALIGNED WITH THE WITH THE GOALS THAT THE BOARD HAS ALREADY ADOPTED.

OKAY. IF NO ONE HAS ANYTHING ELSE REGARDING BEING.

CAN YOU SPEAK IN THE MIC? SORRY. DO ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS AS IT RELATES TO BE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS? I THINK MS. WHITFIELD, TO KEEP THIS IN ORDER, I AM THE CHAIR, SO IF I HAVE ALREADY STATED IF ANYONE HAVE ANYTHING.

ANY COMMENTS ABOUT A OR B?

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I HAVE NO COMMENT. THANK YOU.

SO WE CAN MOVE ON TO SEE.

A PROCESS FOR SELECTION.

A BOARD OFFICER.

OKAY. A IS UNEQUIVOCAL.

THAT'S STRAIGHT FROM THE STATUTE.

OKAY. SO YOU'RE OKAY WITH THAT SECTION? YES. OKAY, GREAT.

THANK YOU. SO WE CAN MOVE TO THE ROLE AND THE AUTHORITY OF TRUSTEE.

THREE OTHER ITEMS THAT ARE B, C, AND D.

WELL, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY I WAS COVERING THEM ALL.

THAT'S WHY I SAID, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT ANY OF THEM? I JUST STATED THE PROCESS OF SELECTING BOARD OFFICERS.

AND SO UNDERNEATH THERE YOU ARE.

CORRECT. SO I JUST ASKED, DID YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THEM? I HAVE, UM, A RECOMMENDATION FOR B A TRUSTEE MAY NOT SERVE AS A BOARD OFFICER UNTIL THE BOARD MEMBER HAS COMPLETED AT LEAST ALL NEW MEMBERS TRAINING IN THE FIRST YEAR.

HOW DO WE GET THIS MINIMIZED FROM ONE YEAR TO AT LEAST SIX YEARS WITH, I MEAN, SIX MONTHS WITH ALL.

COMPLETE A TRAINING RETINOL.

THAT'S MY RECOMMENDATION.

MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE.

BOARD MEMBERS. BOARD MEMBERS HAS.

I'M SORRY. A TRUSTEE MAY NOT SERVE AS A BOARD OFFICER UNTIL THE BOARD MEMBER HAS COMPLETED AT LEAST.

ALL TRAINING.

AND. SIX MONTHS OF SERVICE.

OR ARE YOU INTERJECTING THAT UNDER WHAT, ALPHABET? B, UNDER B.

AND THAT'S YOUR RECOMMENDATION? THAT IS WHAT? YES.

SO WAS THAT CLEAR FOR YOU, MISS BRYANT? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

I HAVE A RECOMMENDATION. WILL BE ALSO.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

STRICKEN. ALL RIGHT.

OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE? MR. KLAUS, YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY? NO, I'M FINE WITH THE WAY IT IS.

CAN YOU SPEAK IN THE MIC, PLEASE? I'M SORRY. I'M GETTING COMFORTABLE IN THIS CHAIR.

NO, I'M FINE WITH IT THE WAY IT IS.

I THINK THAT AND THIS IS ME PERSONALLY AS A AS A NEW BOARD MEMBER, I THINK I NEED THAT ONE YEARS TIME, YOU KNOW? BUT IF. MISS WHITFIELD.

MR. STEPHENSON. C OTHERWISE, I'M.

I'M FINE. WE'LL LEAVING IT AS IS.

YEAH. IT'S KIND OF HARD FOR ME TO BE HUMBLE, SO I KNOW.

MR.. JUST TAKE IT.

AND THERE'S NO ONE RIGHT THERE.

WHAT? WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT LATER.

BUT THESE THINGS ARE THEY THEY DO TEND TO.

I FEEL ISOLATED FROM YOU.

OH, TOUCH IT. OKAY, SO.

DO WE HAVE ANYTHING FOR SALE? OR B STRIKE.

SEE ALSO. OKAY.

SO WHAT YOU HAVE MR. RECOMMENDATION TO MR. STEPHENSON TO STRIKE C.

MS.. TRUSTEE MORRIS.

YES. CAN I ASK A QUESTION? MAYBE WE CAN TIE THIS IN TO SEE.

HOW OFTEN? ARE THE OR, FOR INSTANCE, MY MY TRAININGS.

HOW OFTEN ARE THOSE UPDATED? I KNOW WE'RE WORKING ON IT NOW, MS..

BRYANT, BUT HOW OFTEN SHOULD WE UPDATE THOSE? SHOULD THAT BE A PART OF THIS SECTION HERE? WELL, ACTUALLY, IT IS IN OUR POLICY, AND I THINK WE JUST GOT A COPY OF EVERYBODY.

EVERYBODY GOT EVERYBODY'S TRAINING IN OUR LAST POLICY.

AND THAT MAY HAVE BEEN THE SECOND TIME IS PRESENTED.

SO INDIVIDUALS, BUT AT ANY TIME AN INDIVIDUAL BOARD MEMBER NEED TO CALL MS..

BRYANT, SHE CAN TELL YOU WHAT SHE HAS.

NOW, YOU MAY TAKE TRAINING, BUT IN TAKING THAT TRAINING, MS..

BRYANT MAY NOT HAVE IT.

YOU MAY GET A CERTIFICATE, I THINK LIKE THE OPEN MEETINGS AND OPEN RECORDS AND CLOSED SESSION.

THEN AT THE END OF THOSE, YOU GET A CERTIFICATE.

YOU HAVE TO PROVIDE THE CERTIFICATE TO MS..

BRYANT SO SHE CAN COUNT IT.

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SO I GUESS WHAT WHAT I'M ASKING.

THROUGHOUT THIS ENTIRE DOCUMENT.

IS THERE ANYWHERE THAT NOTES THE.

FREQUENCY OF UPDATING THAT INFORMATION.

WOULD IT MAKE SENSE TO PUT THAT IN THE PROCEDURES? IF YOU WANT TO MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO PUT IT IN THIS DOCUMENT.

BUT IT IS IN POLICY.

ABOUT TRAINING.

IT'S ILLEGAL.

MS.. BRYANT, CAN WE MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION? I'M NOT FOR CERTAIN AT THIS POINT WHERE IT TIES WHERE IT WOULD TIE INTO THE PROCEDURES, BUT I'LL KIND OF GO BACK AND LOOK AND SEE.

THIS IS ON SEA. YES, MA'AM.

WELL, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT WOULD FALL ON UNDERSEA OR IF IT GENERALLY WOULD JUST.

FIND A PLACE SOMEWHERE IN THE DOCUMENT.

SO YOU WANT TO ADD. THE REQUIRED TRAINING.

OKAY. OH, YES.

OH. AND IT GIVES YOU THE CODE.

SO WHEN WE GET THERE MADE, CAN WE GET TO THAT PART? AND IT. IF WE CAN GET TO THAT TODAY.

BUT YOU MAY WANT TO REVIEW THAT.

OKAY. SO, MITCH BROWN, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT MR. LEWIS CONCERN AND WHEN WE GET THERE EITHER TONIGHT OR IN OUR NEXT MEETING, THAT IT WILL BE ADDRESSED.

THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY CONCERNS OR QUESTIONS? DE. DR..

AROUND. NO, I'M ASKING.

WELL, WE. MR. CLAUS JUST FINISHED WITH C AND.

WE WON'T THE OKAY FOR THIS ONE.

THE PRESIDENT FOR THE CURRENT SCHOOL YEAR WILL PARTICIPATE IN GRADUATION CEREMONIES BY SENDING A GREETING FROM THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES.

IF THE BOARD PRESIDENT IS NO LONGER ON THE BOARD BY POLICY, IF THE BOARD PRESIDENT IS REMOVED OR CHANGES FOR SOME REASON THE VICE PRESIDENT TAKES HIS PLACE.

SO THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE A BOARD PRESIDENT.

SO THE BACK HALF OF THAT SENTENCE IS UNNECESSARY.

I THINK THE ENTIRE.

ITS, UH, STATEMENT IS DEEP, DEEP, DEEP HERE.

I AM NOT FINDING WHY IT'S PLACED HERE.

IT'S THE PROCESS OF SELECTING A BOARD OFFICER, AND THEN IT GOES INTO.

THAT'S JUST A ROLL OF THE PRESIDENT, VICE PRESIDENT, WHOMEVER IT MAY BE AT GRADUATION TIME.

SO MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO REMOVE THAT ONE FROM HERE.

I AGREE. COURSE, MY RECOMMENDATION TAKE IS THAT YOU? OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

ANY MORE QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? IF NOT THE ROLE AND THE AUTHORITY OF TRUSTEES AND BOARD OFFICERS.

SECRETARY MORSE, I THINK.

AND I COULD BE WRONG, BUT D.

IT SEEMS LIKE DEE WOULD FALL HERE.

YES, EXACTLY.

OKAY. SO DO YOU WANT ME TO SAVE D FROM TEN AND INSERTED IN, UM, THE ROLL AND OR AND INSERT IN ANY LIVING? YEAH. OKAY.

SO DO WE INSERT N N 11 IS THE LAST ITEM.

WHICH WOULD BE IF.

AND I WOULD STATE MR. KLAUS TRUSTEE.

KLAUS, YOU WASN'T HERE WHEN I MADE THE STATEMENT EARLIER.

THIS IS A DOCUMENT THAT HAVE WE HAVE BEEN WORKING OFF OF.

AND THIS IS ACTUALLY THE FIRST TIME TO BE BROUGHT TO THE BOARD AND A COMMITTEE TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE BOARD AS A WHOLE.

SO THIS WAS MADE BY THE PRIOR BOARD.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

SO IS THERE.

WAS THAT YOUR RECOMMENDATION TO MOVE DH TO UNDER THE ROLE AND THE AUTHORITY OF THE TRUSTEES AND BOARD OFFICERS? YES, MA'AM. OKAY.

WAS THAT CLEAR? MS..

OKAY. THANK YOU. I MEAN, YOU COULD MOVE IT AND IT ALSO TELLS YOU, UM, A SEABOARD POLICY BOARD,

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A LOCAL.

SO FOR.

SEE? I'M SORRY. WHAT? WHERE ARE WE RIGHT NOW? ARE WE STILL THERE? AND. NO, MA'AM, WE'RE WE ARE DOWN TO 11.

ROLL AND AUTHORITY OF TRUSTEES AND BOARD OFFICERS.

AT THE END OF PAGE EIGHT.

C NO TRUSTEES OR OFFICERS HAS AUTHORITY TO ACT ON BEHALF OF THE DISTRICT OUTSIDE THE BOARD MEETING UNLESS AUTHORIZED BY A MAJORITY VOTE OF THE BOARD.

IS. I LEFT THAT POLICY.

I WOULD JUST LIKE TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE BRING THIS DISCUSSION AS A DISCUSSION TO THE BOARD UP FOR DISCUSSION.

TO BE CLARIFIED.

DID YOU GET THAT, MISS BRYANT? OKAY. WITH YOU AFTER THE DISCUSSION.

YOU'LL PROBABLY NEED LEGAL ADVICE ON THAT ONE.

OH, YEAH. ISN'T THAT STRAIGHT? DO YOU WANT TO INCLUDE THAT TO YOUR REQUEST? STRAIGHT FROM THE STATUTE? THAT'S FINE. I'M SORRY, WHICH IS BASICALLY YOUR MIND STRAIGHT FROM THE START OF THIS KIND OF AGAINST.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

YOU WANT TO RESTATE THAT? I MUST SAY THIS FOR THOSE WHO BECAUSE THIS IS BEING RECORDED AND THE RECORDER CANNOT PICK UP ANYBODY THAT'S NOT SPEAKING, I WILL ASK ALL COMMITTEE INDIVIDUALS, BOARD MEMBERS THAT ARE HERE, PLEASE TALKING TO THE DOME.

IF IT IS NOT PICKED UP, IT WOULD NOT BE ADDRESSED TO THE BOARD BECAUSE WE HAVE TO HAVE RECORD OF REQUESTS.

YOU DID GET MY REQUEST RIGHT, BUT THE AUDIO NEED TO PICK IT UP AS WELL.

SO ARE YOU ADDING A LEGAL OPINION TO THIS OR NOT? I AM ASKING FOR LEGAL OPINION.

I KNOW. GOT IT.

AND ACTUALLY, I AM REQUESTING THAT WITH THIS WHOLE POLICY AND PROCEDURE, LEGAL IS PRESENT.

THANK YOU. WHAT IS AT THE BEGINNING OF DAY.

IS THAT RIGHT? ARE NOT REQUESTS.

OKAY, I GOT IT. MY COPY IS KIND OF.

GIPHY. ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS TO B.

C. D. OR E? REQUESTS FOR LEGAL ADVICE OR OPINION ON THIS IS D.

I WOULD LIKE TO REVISIT THIS REQUEST FOR A LEGAL ADVICE OR OR OPINIONS FROM THE PUBLIC.

BECAUSE I DON'T I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY HOW THE PUBLIC.

THEY SHALL BE DIRECTED THROUGH THE BOARD, PRESIDENT OR SUPERINTENDENT.

I'M SO LOST ON THE Y REQUEST FOR LEGAL ADVICE OR OPINIONS FROM THE PUBLIC.

JOE BE DIRECTOR. I'M SORRY.

IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE.

THE BOARD PRESIDENT MAY CONSULT THE ATTORNEY FOR CLARIFICATION OF ITEMS FOR THE BOARD AND FOR LEGAL OPINION AS NEEDED.

UM. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND BEFORE I MAKE A RECOMMENDATION.

AND JUST TO CLARIFY.

EACH TIME THE LEGAL IS CONTACTED BY PRESIDENT OR SUPERINTENDENT IS THAT IS A RETAINER FEE ALREADY INCLUDED IN THAT OR IS THERE A FEE EACH TIME THEY'RE CONTACTED? EACH TIME THERE'S NO RETAINER.

OKAY. I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE ONE, BUT THAT'S NOT THE.

YEAH. OKAY. WHAT WAS NEGOTIATED AT THE BEGINNING.

SO WITH THAT SAID, IF EVERY PHONE CALL, ALL THAT MONEY KNOWS WE PAY THOSE BILLS EVERY MONTH.

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NOW THERE ARE A LOT. I CAN IMAGINE.

SO EACH TIME THE LEGAL LIST CONTACTED, I DO FEEL THAT NEEDS TO COME BEFORE THE BOARD BEFORE.

SO RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE BECAUSE THIS IS DISTRICT FUNDS.

THIS IS THIS IS THEIR MONEY.

THEY'RE PAYING FOR THIS. AND WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND AND THE BOARD NEEDS TO BE AWARE OF WHY.

SOMEONE IS CONTACTING LEGAL BECAUSE LEGAL DO STATES THAT ANY ONE OF US CAN CONTACT THEM? IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, CALL THEM OR WHAT HAVE YOU.

AND NOT SURE IF THIS BEING CHARGED, IF IT'S NOT BEING CHARGED.

AND SO THERE NEEDS TO BE CLARIFICATION.

SO MY REQUEST ONE WOULD BE RECOMMENDATION ON CLARIFICATION FROM LEGAL.

IF, IN FACT, WHAT WE'RE BEING IF WE'RE BEING CHARGED AND WHAT WE'RE BEING CHARGED FOR, AND AT WHAT POINT, ESPECIALLY IF THEY'RE EXTENDING REACHING OUT AND SAYING, HEY. GIVE ME A CALL.

I SEE THERE'S SOMETHING MORE GOING ON.

I MEAN, THOSE AND ALSO IF LEGAL IS GOING TO BE CONTACTED.

THEIR NEEDS. I IN MY RECOMMENDATION, WE AS A BOARD NEED TO KNOW BECAUSE.

THIS IS I MEAN, YOU CAN RACK UP BILLS AND WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE BEING CONTACTED FOR.

EVERYBODY SHOULD BE ON THE SAME PAGE FOR WHY LEGAL IS BEING CONTACTED, BECAUSE LEGAL SHOULD NOT BE CONTACTED FOR ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF ANYTHING UNLESS IT HAS TO DO SPECIFICALLY WITH.

SCHOOL BUSINESS THAT AFFECTS OUR DISTRICT.

IT'S NOT PERSONAL. ARE YOU SPEAKING TO THE BOARD PRESIDENT OR.

I'M SPEAKING DIRECTLY THROUGH THE BOARD.

SHALL BE DIRECTED THROUGH.

THE BOARD. SO MY RECOMMENDATION IS REQUEST FOR LEGAL ADVICE OR OPINIONS FROM THE PUBLIC.

I DON'T EVEN KNOW. I DON'T.

THAT RIGHT THERE ON MY RECOMMENDATION TO TAKE THAT PERSON IS OUT UNLESS I'M MISSING SOMETHING.

WELL, I THINK SOME OF THIS IS STRAIGHT FROM STATUTE, BUT I'M JUST ASKING FOR CLARIFICATION.

ARE YOU SPEAKING OF ME GETTING APPROVAL OR ARE YOU SPEAKING FOR PRESIDENT AND OR.

TRUSTEES. THE BOARD PRESIDENT MAY CONSULT, I THINK.

I THINK IF LEGAL IS GOING TO BE CONTACTED.

THAT WE ALL NEED TO BE AWARE THAT LEGAL IS BEING CONTACTED AND WINE LEGAL IS BEING CONTACTED BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A ONE SET RETAINER FEE.

SO WHICH MEANS EACH TIME THEY'RE BEING CONTACTED, WE ARE BEING CHARGED, NOT WE? THE DISTRICT IS BEING CHARGED AND.

THE BOARD NEEDS TO BE AWARE OF WHY LEGAL IS BEING CONTACTED TO MAKE SURE WE ARE USING DISTRICT FUNDS WISELY.

SO THAT'S FOR THAT'S FOR ANYBODY THAT HAS THE CONTACT.

ACTUALLY, NO, I, I JUST LOST AND YOU CAN ASK.

BUT THE THING IS, IS THAT PERSONAL THINGS I'M NOT GOING TO BRING THAT AND WAIT A MONTH TO ASK THE BOARD TO CONTACT.

I'M NOT STATING YOU HAVE TO WAIT A MONTH.

WAIT FOR A HEARING TO.

BUT I CAN'T I CAN'T PULL THE BOARD OVER THE PHONE.

UM, I UNDERSTAND. THAT'S THIS IS MY RECOMMENDATION IS BRING THIS UP FOR DISCUSSION, BECAUSE MY RECOMMENDATION IS TO DISCUSS THIS WITH THE BOARD ON HOW.

THIS SHOULD BE HANDLED.

SO TO MAKE SURE IT'S NOT MISHANDLED.

AGAIN, THAT IS MY TASK.

AND I ALSO BUDGET FOR IT.

I CAN'T CALL THE BOARD EVERY TIME I NEED TO CALL LEGAL ABOUT PERSONNEL OR ANY OTHER SITUATIONS, CONTRACTS, VENDORS, ETC..

THE BOARD APPROVES THE BUDGET.

I HAVE NOT EXCEEDED THAT FOR LEGAL.

AND AGAIN, YOU GET THOSE FINANCIAL UPDATES EVERY EVERY MONTH.

UM, I THINK THAT IS THE DAY TO DAY OPERATIONS.

I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU, DOCTOR.

IN IN THE PAST, AND I COULD BE WRONG, BUT AND YOU MAY NOT KNOW FROM THE PAST, BUT MISS MORSE, TRUST ME MORE, SHE WOULD KNOW. IS THERE AN ATTORNEY THAT REPRESENTS THE DISTRICT VERSUS ONE THAT REPRESENTS THE BOARD, OR IS IT THE ONE? NO, WE DO NOT HAVE WE ONLY HAVE ONE LAW FIRM THAT REPRESENTS THE DISTRICT, THE BOARD, THE BOARD, THE ADMINISTRATION DO NOT HAVE NOT MADE A RECOMMENDATION FOR OUTSIDE LEGAL COUNSEL.

BUT I ALSO WANT TO SHARE WITH THOSE AROUND THE DIET IS THAT ANY OF US, BECAUSE WE'RE IN A CONTRACT WITH, HAS TO BE LEGAL, CAN CALL AND GET LEGAL ADVICE.

THEY WILL TALK TO US.

THERE'S NO CHARGE.

AND SO A LOT OF I KNOW MY COMMUNICATION WITH LEGAL REASONING.

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I SAY LEGAL.

I NEVER SAID OUR ATTORNEYS BECAUSE LEGAL IS OUR ATTORNEYS AS WELL, ESPECIALLY IF WE GET IN THE LAWSUIT, THERE IS A LIABILITY HAS TO BE STEPPED IN. THAT'S PART OF OUR TRAINING TO.

THAT'S WHY IT HAS TO BE GIVEN.

MOST OF THE TRAINING IS DONE BY LEGAL.

AND SO FOR THOSE EVER ANY BOARD MEMBER EVER NEED TO HAVE LEGAL ADVICE, THEY'LL CALL YOU BACK THE SAME DAY.

SOMETIME WITHIN THE HOUR FOR SPECIAL SERVICES, BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE A LAW FIRM THAT SPECIALIZES IN.

YES, THAT'S THE ONLY OTHER ATTORNEY.

UM, MOST OF THE CONTRACT LAW IS RUN THROUGH THE BOARD.

ATTORNEY? UH, BUT REALLY, THE PERSONAL PIECES ARE THE ONES.

THAT'S USUALLY I MIGHT TALK TO YOU ALL DIRECTLY TO.

OR IF THERE'S A PERSONNEL ISSUE THAT WE NEED TO.

SO I SHARE A TRUSTEE WITH PHIL'S CONCERN ABOUT THIS SECTION, ESPECIALLY IN LIGHT OF RECENT EVENTS.

AND IT'S NOT REALLY ABOUT THE DAY TO DAY HOUSEKEEPING STUFF THAT YOU HAVE TO DO.

THAT'S THAT'S CLEAR. THAT'S GOT TO BE AND THAT'S WHAT THAT'S GOT TO BE.

I KNOW, I KNOW. THAT'S YOUR CONCERN.

THAT'S GOT TO BE DONE. I THINK MORE OUR CONCERN IS THE FACT THAT.

UH. THEIR CONTRACT, NUMBER ONE, I MEAN, WE SHOULD BE PRIVY TO EXACTLY WHAT THEIR CONTRACT IS AND HAVE AN ONGOING SUMMARY OF WHAT KIND OF ADVICE WAS GIVEN ABOUT WHAT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE VERY DETAILED.

WE JUST NEED TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.

OKAY. AND, YOU KNOW, FOR TRANSPARENCY.

AND FURTHERMORE, MY CONCERN IS WE CONSISTENTLY MAKE DECISIONS AND GIVE DIRECTION TO THESE ATTORNEYS.

AND THEN IT SEEMS SOMEWHERE ALONG THE WAY SOMEBODY'S GOING BEHIND US AND GIVING OPPOSITE DIRECTION AND THINGS EITHER DON'T GET DONE.

WE COME BACK THE NEXT MEETING AND NOTHING HAS GOTTEN DONE.

THINGS ARE DISAPPEARING.

AND KEVIN'S SITTING THERE LOOKING, OOH.

SO, I MEAN, WE HAVE TO CLARIFY THAT.

I MEAN, YOU GET THE YOU TAKE IT IF WE GIVE YOU A DIRECTION, NOBODY CAN COME CHANGE THAT.

I MEAN, NOBODY HAS AUTHORITY TO DO THAT.

AFTER ALL, IT SAYS THE BOARD ACTS AS A GROUP BY MAJORITY VOTE OF THE BOARD.

AND SO, I MEAN, I THINK WE NEED TO BRING THIS BEFORE THE BOARD AND WE NEED TO CLEAN THAT UP AND EVERYBODY NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND THEIR ROLE.

MR.. MR. STEPHENSON.

TRUSTEE STEPHENS.

I AGREE WITH YOU.

SINCE YOU'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD.

YOU HAVE BEEN IN EVERY EXECUTIVE, EVERY CLOSED MEETING WITH THE ATTORNEYS.

YOU NEVER EXPRESSED THAT.

SO I'M HAPPY TO HEAR YOU EXPRESS THAT CONCERN.

WELL, THE LAST MEETING WE HAD, I EXPRESSED IT AND HE GOT OFF TO OFF THE PHONE REAL QUICK.

WELL, NO, HE DID NOT.

MEETING'S DONE THAT.

HE WAS ON THE HE HE WAS ON THE PHONE WHEN WE CAME OUT IN THE EXECUTIVE I MEAN, IN OPEN SESSION.

KEVIN DIDN'T COME BACK. KEVIN.

HE DID FROM THE LAST TIME.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE VIDEO, KEVIN WAS THERE.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE VIDEO, IT SHOWS WHO WAS IN OPEN SESSION AFTER EXECUTIVE SESSION.

I KNEW HE WAS THERE, BUT HE PUT ETON UP THERE AND THAT WAS A DISASTER.

BUT BECAUSE ETON WAS THE ONE THAT WAS ADDRESSING THAT ISSUE, HE ADDRESSED ONE ISSUE AND EXECUTIVE AND CLOSED SESSION. AND SO WE ALMOST WE'VE BEEN IN LITIGATION FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS, THE LAST TWO YEARS.

AND SO I HEARD MISS WOODFIELD REQUEST.

I THINK MISS BRYANT HAS THAT, AND I THINK THAT SPEAKS TO IT ALL.

OKAY. SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO BRING THIS BEFORE THE BOARD THEN, RIGHT? AND PLEASE. SURE.

AND PLEASE SHARE YOUR CONCERNS.

THE BOARD, THE CONTRACT WITH THE ATTORNEYS.

FROM WHICH I RECAP ON THE TERM, YOU SEE? YEAH. I'M NOT THAT CONCERNED ABOUT THE MONEY.

THAT'S NOTHING. BUT WHAT I WANT TO KNOW IS WHAT HAVE THEY BEEN DOING AND FOR WHO? AND WHAT KIND OF ADVICE HAS BEEN GIVEN ON WHAT.

SO YOU'RE GOING TO BE IF YOU'VE GOT A PERSONNEL ISSUE? I NEED TO BE I NEED TO BE CLEAR.

ARE YOU NOW YOU'RE BRINGING THE BOARD FOR THE BOARD TO DISCUSS AND APPROVE YOUR REQUEST.

RIGHT. BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT YOU WE CAN'T DIRECT MONET TO DO ANYTHING IN THIS MEETING BECAUSE WE'RE ONLY HERE LOOKING AND REVIEWING THIS TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE BOARD TO BRING MY CONCERNS BEFORE THE BOARD.

THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME.

OKAY, SO WE GOT THAT ONE.

WE'RE ON D.

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WE ARE E WE ARE ON E, OKAY.

TRUSTEES WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR ATTORNEY FEES IF LEGAL ADVICE OR OPINIONS ARE REQUESTED FROM ATTORNEYS WITHOUT PRIOR BOARD APPROVAL.

SO THAT NEEDS CLARIFICATION AS WELL, BECAUSE WHAT IS CONSIDERED, UM, LEGAL ADVICE OR OPINIONS? AND THEN ALSO WITHOUT PRIOR BOARD APPROVAL.

SO. BECK I GUESS THAT GOES BACK TO SEE.

AND WHAT EXACTLY? NEEDS TO BE BROUGHT TO THE BOARD, CLEARED BY THE BOARD AND APPROVED BY THE BOARD.

BEFORE GOING TO LEGAL THAT KIND OF CONTRADICTS.

BUT HE WOULD BE SOLELY IN MY MIND, SOLELY BASED ON BOARD NEEDS.

WHAT DO YOU MEAN? WELL, WE NECESSARILY WOULDN'T NECESSARILY NEED TO KNOW.

WE WOULDN'T NEED TO KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT AN HR MATTER PER SE, BUT FOR ALL BOARD REQUESTS, IS THAT WHAT YOU WOULD WANT TO? THE INFORMATION ON.

NO, THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO CLARIFY.

IT'S LIKE, YEAH, IT'S LIKE TRUSTEES WOULD BE LIKE TRUSTEES WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR ATTORNEY FEES IF LEGAL ADVICE OR OPINIONS ARE REQUESTED FROM ATTORNEYS WITHOUT PRIOR BOARD APPROVAL.

SO I THINK WHAT THAT MEANS IS SO IF I PICK UP THE PHONE AND I CALL O'HANLON BUT I DIDN'T GO THROUGH SUPERINTENDENT AND I DIDN'T GO THROUGH THE BOARD.

PRESIDENT RIGHT.

THEN I'M TAKING THE RISK OF THAT.

CHARGE FOR MYSELF BECAUSE I DIDN'T GO THROUGH THE PROPER, PROPER CHANNEL.

THIS DOESN'T SAY THAT. WELL, I MEAN, AT BOARD APPROVAL, IT DOESN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THE BOARD, PRESIDENT OR BOARD.

YEAH, THEY KIND OF GOES BACK TO WHAT I WAS ASKING, BUT THAT'S WHAT THIS SAYS.

BUT IT KIND OF CONTRADICTS WITH WHAT'S STATED.

AND THEN, UM, I THINK CLARIFICATION NEEDS TO BE BROUGHT TO E BECAUSE IF LEGAL, WHAT EXACTLY WILL LEGAL ADVICE BE NEEDED FOR IF.

NOT TO BRING IT UP, BUT TO KIND OF REFERENCE BACK TO THE, UM, OUR BOARD MEETING THAT WE HAD THAT WAS AN OPEN MEETING.

UM, LEGAL ADVICE.

WHAT? AND THERE THERE WAS LEGAL ADVICE PROVIDED, BUT THAT DID NOT COME BEFORE THE BOARD.

IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M STATING? SO. E, D, AND C, THERE'S A BOARD MEETING UNLESS AUTHORIZED MAJORITY.

I'M SORRY. NO TRADE OFFS.

IN OTHER WORDS, I'M SORRY.

E AND D KIND OF SEND ME.

JUST NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED BY THE BOARD.

AND I GUESS MY RECOMMENDATION IS, BRIAN, IS IF WE COULD ADDRESS E AND PROVIDE A BREAKDOWN OF.

EXACTLY. FOR E.

OR I GUESS.

IS THIS A LEGAL IF IF I CAN FIND A REFERENCE, SOMETHING TRUSTEE WOULD FILL THE BOARD, GET A OUT OF MY STATEMENT OF ALL LEGAL FEES.

SO IT'S NO SECRET, ESPECIALLY THE LAST 2 TO 3 YEARS, OF WHAT LEGAL EXPENSES HAVE BEEN EXPENDED, WHO REQUESTED THEM AND WHAT WAS PAID OUT.

SO DO YOU WANT TO ASK THE BOARD TO REVIEW THE SPREADSHEET OF LEGAL FEES? MADAM CHAIR. I THINK WE'RE ON IT NOW.

RIGHT. WELL.

YEAH, THAT'S WHAT SHE'S ASKING.

IF YOU WANTED A SPREADSHEET OF THE LEGAL FEES.

IN YOUR FINANCIAL REPORTS OR SOMETHING, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT ON DEE.

RIGHT. THAT'S MY THAT WAS I WAS JUST EXPLAINING WHAT WE GET TO HELP THE BOARD BECAUSE, AGAIN, I'M GOING TO ALWAYS REFERENCE BACK TO TRAINING.

THIS IS NEAR BOARD TRAINING.

THAT ALL OF THIS LEGAL, THE FEES, HOW YOU ENGAGE IN CONTRACTS, HOW YOU ENGAGE WITH SUPERINTENDENTS, EVALUATION AND CONTRACTS.

SO IT IS IT'S ALL IN I IN OUR TRAINING AND THIS PORTION MAY BE SOME BOARD MEMBERS MAY HAVE GOTTEN IT AND DIDN'T KNOW WHAT IT WAS.

BUT WE HAVE RECEIVED THIS SINCE MAY ELECTION YEAR BREAKDOWN TRAIN THE THE LEGAL SUM OF LEGAL NOT ALL OF LEGAL BUT THE THERE WAS THE BASIS OF BEST PRACTICE THAT WAS PROVIDED TO US DURING TRAINING.

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THERE WAS NO DIRECT OR.

PER SAY LEGAL INFORMATION PROVIDED AS IT RELATES TO OUR DISTRICT AND HAVING THE ATTORNEY OR WHAT HAVE YOU.

DURING OUR TRAINING IT WAS SPOKEN MOSTLY BEST PRACTICES AND THAT WAS A CONCERN FOR ME.

HOWEVER, WHAT I'M REFERENCING TO HERE IS THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE A BREAKDOWN.

MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO REVISIT E.

AND PROVIDE A BREAKDOWN OF WHAT THIS IN REFERENCE TO BECAUSE.

IT IS KIND OF BROAD AND.

I JUST FEEL LIKE IT JUST NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.

OKAY. MISS BRYANT, DID YOU GET THAT? ALL RIGHT, SO WE CAN MOVE ON.

WE DID GET THAT, YES.

ARE YOU TALKING TO ME OR MISS WHITFIELD? OKAY. CAROLYN MORRIS? YES. OKAY. THANK YOU.

I KNOW THIS SEEMS BIZARRE.

IS THIS IS THIS SOME KIND OF AD HOMINEM ATTACK AGAINST SOMEBODY? I'M SORRY, WHAT? I MEAN, THIS WHOLE.

IT SEEMS BIZARRE.

WELL, LET ME SHARE THIS WITH YOU.

REMEMBER, I DON'T KNOW THE THOUGHT PATTERN OF THE INDIVIDUALS THAT PUT THIS IN PLACE.

I THINK I'VE SAID THAT BEFORE.

AND SO I DON'T KNOW THEIR THOUGHT PATTERN.

I DON'T KNOW WHY THIS WAS INSERTED INTO.

THIS DOCUMENT.

ONLY THING THAT I CAN SAY IS.

WE ALL HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW OUR POLICY LOCAL AND LEGAL BEFORE WE GOT HERE TODAY TO DETERMINE IF THIS REFLECTS THAT.

YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T RECALL ANY TRUSTEE IN THE PAST GOING STRAIGHT TO ATTORNEYS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? NO, NEVER HAPPENED.

NO, NOT I DON'T.

NOW, I'M NOT TELLING YOU.

I'M NOT TELLING YOU IT HADN'T HAPPENED BECAUSE.

I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW.

I WOULDN'T KNOW. MR. STEVENS, IF YOU CALLED THE ATTORNEYS, I WOULD ONLY WAY I WOULD KNOW IF YOU TELL ME.

DID YOU CALL THE ATTORNEYS? YEAH, BUT WE ALL DON'T. NEVER MIND.

I THINK THAT RECOMMENDATION WAS GOOD.

LET'S MOVE ON. OKAY.

THANK YOU. SO WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO PAGE NINE.

THE ROLE OF THE BOARD AND CLOSED SESSION.

AND PLEASE BE AWARE THIS WHOLE SECTION.

UNDER 12 IS UNDER TEXAS GOVERNMENTAL CODE.

CHAPTER 551.

AND MS.. MORSE, IF YOU'LL CLARIFY CLOSED SESSIONS, THOSE CANNOT BY LAW BE RECORDED.

THEY ARE RECORDED LIKE WHAT? I DO. I WRITE DOWN.

THE AGENDA ITEM BECAUSE IT TALKS TO THE DISCUSSION OF CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION.

SO YOU PROBABLY NEVER SEEN THAT DOCUMENT THAT I RECORD EVERYTHING DOWN NOW VERBATIM? NO, BECAUSE PEOPLE GET TO TALKING LIKE THEY GET TO TALK NOW, AND IT HAS TO BE BY A COURT ORDER TO GET THAT RECORDING OR TO EVEN GET THAT DOCUMENT THAT I WRITE DOWN.

EVERYTHING ONCE IS SEALED.

MS.. BRYANT RECEIVES THAT AT THE END OF THE BOARD MEETING.

I SIGN IT AND THE PRESIDENT AND.

THAT'S WHAT'S RECORDED.

WELL AND AND AND I BRING THAT UP ONLY AND SO THAT WE DON'T GET OFF TRACK.

TOO FAR OFF TRACK. MHM.

THIS PAST.

BOARD MEETING AND CLOSED SESSION.

THE ATTORNEY LEFT ME A LITTLE CONFUSED.

OKAY. BASED ON WHAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT IN THE PRIOR BOARD MEETING, IS IF HE HAD FORGOTTEN THAT THAT CONVERSATION AND I CAN'T BRING IT UP NOW, BUT PART OF THAT CONVERSATION DIDN'T HAPPEN.

YOU ARE CORRECT.

IF YOU REMEMBER THE ATTORNEY THAT ADDRESSED THOSE ISSUES WERE OUT SICK BECAUSE THERE WAS I BELIEVE SHE WAS IN A CAR ACCIDENT.

IS THAT CORRECT, DR.

PEREIRA? AND SO SHE'S THE ONE THAT WAS ADDRESSING THAT.

THE ATTORNEY THAT WAS PRESENT IN CLOSED SESSION WAS BASICALLY FILLING IN, BUT NOT YET HAD ALL OF THE DOCUMENTATION.

THAT'S WHY HE IT WAS STATED THAT HE WOULD REVIEW AND GO BACK AND SPEAK TO HER.

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WELL, IF I IF I IF MY MEMORY IS CORRECT, HE WAS THE ONE THAT WE HAD TALKED TO.

NO. YEAH.

OKAY. I'M ALMOST. I WON'T.

I WON'T I WON'T CHALLENGE THAT.

BUT I KNOW SPECIFIC QUESTIONS THAT I ASKED.

IT WASN'T ASKED TO HIM AND I, I AND SO I WON'T GET INTO TO THAT DISCUSSION.

BUT WHAT YOU CAN DO, MR. LEWIS, AT EVERY AND EVERY BOARD MEETING THERE IS, WE GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION UNDER THE GET ADVICE FROM OUR ATTORNEYS.

YOU CAN JUST YOU KNOW, WHEN WE HAVE OUR NEXT REGULAR BOARD MEETING, THAT THAT WOULD BE A DISCUSSION WITH THE ATTORNEY FOR CLARITY.

OKAY, MADAM CHAIR, IF I MAY, MR. CLAUS. I'M REALLY FAMILIAR WITH FIVE, FIVE, ONE IN A SECTION OF CLOSED MEETINGS, AND IT MAKES TWO STIPULATIONS WITH RESPECT TO THOSE MEETINGS.

NUMBER ONE, THAT A RECORDING MUST BE MADE.

AND NUMBER TWO. OR YOU HAVE TO HAVE A CERTIFIED MINUTES.

I HAVEN'T REALLY BEEN ABLE TO DETERMINE EXACTLY WHAT CERTIFIED MINUTES ARE, BUT SOME OF THE REQUIREMENTS FOR CERTIFIED MINUTES ARE THE SAME AS ANY OTHER MINUTE.

SO THERE YOU HAVE IT.

BUT I THINK OUR OUR PRACTICE HAS BEEN TO RECORD ALL OF THOSE, TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE.

WELL, RECORDING COMING IN DIFFERENT FORMS. THERE IS A FORM THAT IS PRESENTED TO US THAT THE BOARD SECRETARY GETS AND I GET THAT FORM AT EVERY MEETING THAT WE GO INTO.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL HAVE SEEN ME WRITE ALL OF THAT DOWN, BUT I WRITE IT ALL DOWN PER THE AGENDA AND I EVEN ATTACH THE AGENDA WITH.

THAT INFORMATION.

AND WHEN I ATTACH THEIR AGENDA, THE AGENDA IS CLEAR.

PLUS THE PAST MINUTES.

ON ANY ACTIONS BECAUSE ONCE WE HAVE DISCUSSED IN CLOSED SESSION, WE COME OUT HERE, WE CANNOT VOTE.

WE CANNOT EVEN POLL EACH OTHER TO DETERMINE HOW WE ARE GOING TO VOTE.

SO WE COME OUT HERE AND WE VOTE AND IT'S OPEN MEETING.

THAT'S ONE OF MY REASONS FOR ATTACHING.

ATTACHING. THEY DIDN'T EVEN ASK ME TO DO THAT.

I JUST DO THAT BECAUSE I THINK THAT THAT WOULD KEEP IN CASE THE JUDGE EVER ORDER US TO ORDER THAT ENVELOPE IN COURT. SO.

SO THAT I'M CLEAR.

WE BY LAW CANNOT HAVE AN ACTUAL RECORDING.

YES, WE CAN. WE CAN RECORD.

AN ACTUAL RECORDING IS REQUIRED IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE US, READ IT FIRST IN LAW THAT.

YES. NOW RESPECT A CLOSED SESSION.

AND SO IF I CAN MAKE A RECOMMENDATION AND I'LL HAVE TO GO BACK AND FIND THAT INFORMATION AND UNDERSTAND IT FOR MYSELF.

BUT IF.

IT IS ALLOWED.

I THINK WE SHOULD DO THAT.

I AGREE. WELL, MR. KLAUS, YOU CAN MAKE ANY RECOMMENDATION THAT YOU FEEL THAT THAT IS A RECOMMENDATION THAT YOU WOULD CHOOSE.

I ONLY, YOU KNOW, YOU MAY READ SOMETHING IN LAW, BUT YOU ALSO GOT THE AG'S OPINION AND YOU GOT COURT THAT THEY SIT PRESIDENTS OVER WHAT YOU READ.

AND WE ACTUALLY BEEN IN COURT ABOUT THE CLOSED SESSION.

SO PLEASE BRING THAT UP SO YOU CAN CLARIFY THAT AND ASK YOUR ATTORNEY OR ASK THE BOARD TO GET AN AG'S OPINION ON THAT.

THAT WOULD BE BETTER THAN THE BOARD GIVING YOU DIRECTIONS ON THE LAW BECAUSE REMEMBER, IT MAY BE STATED, BUT WHEN YOU ACTUALLY GO TO TRIAL, THAT SET PRECEDENT SO THAT LAW, A JUDGE'S ORDER AND RULING.

OKAY. SO JUST WE JUST DO THAT AND THEN YOU WILL GET YOUR ANSWER AND YOUR RECOMMENDATION HEARD.

OKAY. THANK YOU. SO, MADAM, WHAT IS OUR PRACTICE WITH RESPECT TO CLOSED SESSIONS? RECORDING CLOSED SESSIONS.

WE DO TAKE THE MINUTES, SHE SHARED.

I'VE SEEN IT ALL KINDS OF WAYS, EVEN HAVING.

UH, REPORTERS IN THERE, BUT THEY CAN'T REPORT ANYTHING.

WHICH MADE NO SENSE TO ME.

BUT LOOK, REPORTERS.

YOU MEAN LIKE THE PRESS? YEAH. IN OREGON, THEY'RE ALLOWED TO COME INTO PROCESS.

OKAY. NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT WHAT WE DO HERE.

I JUST ONLY KNOW WE HAVE BEEN HAD AUDIO RECORDINGS, RIGHT? NO, NOT EVEN CLOSE.

WE'VE NEVER HAD AUDIO RECORDINGS.

THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO WE NEED THAT 19 YEARS.

I'M TELLING YOU, I'M ONLY SHARING WITH YOU FIRST, BECAUSE YOUR BEST IS TO GET AN AG OPINION ON THAT.

AND THAT JUST A SUGGESTION.

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YOU DON'T HAVE TO REQUEST THAT, BUT IT JUST A SUGGESTION.

AND I DON'T THINK THERE IS A CHARGE FOR US TO GET AN OPINION BECAUSE THE AG'S OPINION WILL CAUSE A LAW CHANGE.

BUT YOU IT'S AMENDED, IT DON'T CHANGE, IT'S AMENDED AND IT IS THE MENT AMENDED ACCORDING TO THE NEXT TO THE LAST TRIAL OR JUDGE'S ORDER.

OKAY. THANKS. YOU'RE WELCOME.

YES, MA'AM.

HUH? SEVEN 3735.

SO HAVE WE FINISHED? 12 THE.

HAVE WE FINISHED? ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS WITH 12? SO WHEN WE COME BACK, WE KNOW WE'LL START AT 13.

JUST THE CLARIFICATION IS THAT THE RECOMMENDATIONS IS TO FOR ROLE OF BOARD IN CLOSED SESSIONS TO HAVE AUDIO AND OR VIDEO RECORDING TO BE DISCUSSED AMONGST THE BOARD.

IS THAT CLARIFIED? THAT'S THE LAST THING AS IT RELATES TO ROLE OF BOARD AND CLOSED SESSIONS AND I HAVE THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION AS WELL THAT I WOULD LIKE TO STATE.

PLEASE STRIKE.

CAN WE STRIKE THE AUDIO? UM, AS I STATED AND OR VIDEO, I THINK WOULD BE THE PREFERENCE.

AUDIO GETS INTO MORE OF A TECHNICAL COST.

THE REASON I SAY THAT IS BECAUSE WE DO HAVE ZOOM MEETINGS IN HERE AND REQUESTING THAT THOSE ZOOM MEETINGS ARE RECORDED.

YEAH. DR.

PERERA BROUGHT UP A GOOD.

BUT DR. PERERA, I'M GONNA LET THE AG I'M GONNA REQUEST THAT WE BRING THIS TO THE BOARD TO GET AN OPINION ON BOTH OF THE REQUESTS FROM THE ATTORNEY GENERAL.

LET ME JUST BE CLEAR. THAT IS NOT TO BE WHAT HAPPENS.

THAT IS A BOARD.

MY ONLY CONCERN IS WHEN YOU RECORDING THINGS, IT BECOMES PUBLIC.

THE PUBLIC CAN HAVE ACCESS TO IT AT THAT POINT.

SO YOU'RE DISCUSSING PERSONNEL THEN? IT COULD BE UTILIZED AGAINST YOU.

THAT'S WHY I WOULD TO GET ACCESS TO WHAT WE HAVE IN CLOSED SESSION.

THEY'VE GOT TO GET A COURT ORDER, THOUGH.

I MEAN, AGAIN, IT CAN BE.

AGAIN, I HAVE NO SKIN IN THE GAME ON THAT.

I'M JUST SHARING WITH YOU AN OPINION OF MY OWN PROFESSIONALLY.

SO I'M NOT ASKING YOU TO THINK ABOUT IT, BUT TO GIVE YOU THE RIGHT GUY.

I THINK WE NEED A IN A LEGAL OPINION.

BUT COULDN'T IT TAKE FOREVER TO GET ONE FROM THE AGE? NO, IT DON'T. HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE IT? DON'T THE SUPERINTENDENT.

THE BOARD HAS TO DIRECT THE SUPERINTENDENT TO REQUEST.

AND THEY OFFICE USUALLY.

I MEAN, I HAD TO CONTACT HIM AND THEY CALLED HIS DISTRICT IN THE SAME DAY.

I MEAN, YOU CAN START GATHERING YOUR IDEAS AROUND.

YEAH. YEAH, BUT AG IS WHAT YOU WANT.

BUT I'LL WAIT FOR THE BOARD'S DIRECTION.

OKAY. THANKS.

THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. YOU DIRECT THE LAWYER TO DO THAT.

MM. MY CONFIDENCE IN THAT LAWYER LOVE.

SO IF THAT'S PERSONAL, SO LET US IF WE'RE GOING TO IF WE YOUR OPINION ABOUT THE ATTORNEY IS.

SO IF WE COULD CAN WE'LL MEET NEXT MONDAY NIGHT AND WE WILL PICK UP ON PAGE NINE AT 13.

UH, THAT'S THE SCHEDULE FOR NEXT MONDAY NIGHT.

I'M GOING TO SAY MONDAY NIGHT OR SOMETHING.

SO I'M SAYING IT MAY NOT BE OKAY WITH YOU.

I'M SAYING WE WILL MEET MONDAY NIGHT AT 530.

I UNDERSTAND IF YOU HAVE OTHER ENGAGEMENTS.

BUT WE HAVE.

WE HAVE ALREADY.

OKAY. PLEASE DO. PLEASE DO.

PLEASE DO. BUT RIGHT NOW, WE WILL MEET MONDAY AT 530.

YES, WE ARE ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.