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>> A GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING OUT.

TODAY'S DATE IS APRIL 4, 2023. THIS IS SPECIAL MEETING BEING HELD AT THE LANCASTER ISD IN THE LANCASTER, TEXAS.22 S. CENTER AVENUE. I WILL NOW CALL ROLE.

>> STEVENSON.AT THIS TIME A QUORUM IS PRESENT. FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA TO BE

[5. Citizen's Communication]

HAVE CITIZENS COMMUNICATIONS?

>> YES, I THINK WE DO. MS. SIMPSON WILL BRING THAT FORWARD.

>> FOR THE RECORD MR. SMITH ARRIVED AT 5:30 PM.

>> FOR THE PRESIDENT, TRUSTEES AND SUPERINTENDENT WE HAVE ONE REQUEST TO SPEAK.

(NAME?).

>> BOARD POLICY STATES THE PUBLIC COMMENT DURING REGULAR BOARD MEETINGS WILL BE LIMITED TILL THREE MINUTES. PLEASE DIRECT YOUR COMMENTS TO THE PRESIDENT AND THE BOARD PLEASE IDENTIFY THE ITEM YOU WILL BE COMMENTING ON SPEAKERS MAY NOT USE ANY INDIVIDUALS NAMES OR IDENTIFIABLE TITLES WHEN ADDRESSING THE BOARD IF YOU'RE ADDRESSING A COMPLAINT REGARDING THE PERSON. THE BOARD CANNOT TAKE SPECIFIC ACTION ON CITIZEN COMMUNICATION TOPICS MEETING THE REQUIREMENTS THEY WILL BE THE TOPIC HAVE THE ITEM PLACED IN THE FUTURE AGENDA ITEM FOR ACTION FOR REFER THE ITEMS TO BOARD OF COMMISSION OR COMMITTEE FOR REFER THE ITEM TO STAFF FOR CONCLUSION. WE ASK YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS PRIOR TO SPEAKING AND IDENTIFY THE TOPIC YOU WANT TO COMMENT ON.

I WILL BEGIN THE TIMER AFTER YOU STATE YOUR NAME, ADDRESS IN THE AGENDA ITEM.

YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO MAKE YOUR COMMENTS.

>> MY NAME IS (NAME?) ADDRESS 1013 BLACKBERRY TRAIL LANCASTER, TEXAS.

IN ONE OF TALKING ABOUT TODAY IS A TIMELINESS AND ACCOUNTABILITY.

THIS IS A GOOD TIME, FOR THE TIME I'VE BEEN SCHEDULED TO TALK IN FRONT OF THE BOARD.

THAT WAS MY TIME THAT IS TAKEN AND MY TIME AWAY FROM STATED BY GRIEVANCE AS YOU ALSO LAST WEEK OR LAST MONTH WHEN I CAME. IT'S TRULY SAD THAT HAVE GIVEN 15 DAYS TO FILE A GRIEVANCE AND THEN 10 DAYS FOR YOU ALL TO RESPOND TO LEVEL II AND THEN RESPOND WHENEVER YOU FEEL LIKE A LEVEL III. FIVE TIMES I HAVE BEEN SCHEDULED AND CANCELED SO THAT MEANS MY CHILDCARE I HAVE TO GET TOGETHER TO GET HERE. I WAS SUPPOSED TO TALK TO YOU ALL TODAY BUT IT WAS CANCELED. BUT I CAME ANYWAY SO GETTING MY THREE MINUTES BECAUSE I LIVE HERE IN LANCASTER. LIKE I SAID, I'VE BEEN GOING TO THIS GIVEN.

AND NOW HERE IN APRIL 2023. THIS WAS BACK TO EARLY AUGUST 18 AND I GAVE YOU ALL I FEEL IT SHOULDN'T HAVE TO DO THAT AND I WONDER WHEN DO I GET STOPPED BEING PUT ON HOLD.

WHEN IS IT MY TIME HATE (NAME?) YOU'VE DONE A LOT FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND SCHOOL DISTRICT.

AND STILL CONTINUE TO DO IT THIS YEAR TO AT LEAST 100 KIDS ALL THE STUDENTS I DID FOR WHEN I SAID I WASN'T BUT I DID ANYWAY. AND MY KIDS GET TO GRADUATE.

SO THAT'S MY THING FOR TODAY. I CAME TO YOU AGAIN BUT I HAVE TO DO THREE MINUTES WHEREAS I SHOULD HAVE MY TIME AND NOT BE CANCELED BECAUSE IT WAS ANY OF YOU YOU ALL WOULD SAY THIS IS NOT RIGHT. TO KEEP PUTTING ME ON THE BACK. BECAUSE THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE MY TIME TODAY. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS INTRODUCTION OF THE TEA

[6. Introduction of TEA Conservator - Dr. Carol Francois]

CONSERVATIVE DOCTOR CAROL CRESSWELL MR. FRITZ WELCOME TO THE PODIUM, PLEASE.

WELCOME TO LANCASTER, ISD. WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU.

>> THANK YOU FOR THAT AND THANK YOU ALL. BOARD PRESIDENT HAMILTON AND MY RESPECTS TO SUPERINTENDENT PEREIRA AND EACH TRUSTEE. FIRST, LET ME SAY I AM AT THE PODIUM TODAY ONLY TO OFFER REMARKS. I WILL NOT BE TAKING QUESTIONS AND I WILL NOT BE ENGAGING IN DIALOGUE.ALL TRUSTEES HAVE BEEN ASKED TO SCHEDULE INDIVIDUAL MEETINGS WITH ME SO PERHAPS I CAN ADDRESS QUESTIONS AT THAT TIME.

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THIS IS AN INTRODUCTORY MEETING AND WANT TO SPEND MY TIME ENJOYING YOUR TIME AND GETTING TO KNOW YOU BETTER. NOW I AM BOTH PLEASED AND I AM HUMBLED TO SERVE AS THE LISD CONSERVATOR AND I INTEND TO WORK DILIGENTLY, EXPEDITIOUSLY AND COLLABORATIVELY WITH THE FULL BOARD OF TRUSTEES AND THE SUPERINTENDENT TO ADDRESS THE ISSUES OUTLINED IN THE TEA FINAL REPORT SO THAT MY PLACEMENT IS NO LONGER NEEDED. ON NOVEMBER 8, 2022, BOARD PRESIDENT WAS SENT THE FINAL REPORT OF TEA'S FINDINGS RELATED TO AN INVESTIGATION.

THAT REPORT CONCLUDED THAT THE APPOINTMENT OF A CONSERVATOR WAS NECESSARY TO WORK WITH LISD. NUMBER ONE TO ENSURE COMPLIANCE, NEVER TO, TO PREVENT ANY FURTHER ISSUES THAT LED TO NONCOMPLIANCE AND NUMBER THREE ASSIST THE BOARD IN WORKING TOGETHER AS A TEAM IN THE BEST INTEREST OF LISD STUDENTS.

ON FEBRUARY SECOND, 2023, THE BOARD PRESIDENT WAS SENT A LETTER OFFICIALLY PLACING ME AS CONSERVATOR AND OUTLINED MY DUTIES. THESE ARE THOSE DUTIES.

DIRECTING AND OVERSEEING BOARD ACTIONS, FACILITATING NEEDS ASSESSMENT OF DISTRICT AND CAMPUS SYSTEMS TOSUPPORT DEVELOPMENT OF A CORRECTIVE ACTION PLAN , REQUESTING OR CONDUCTING ON-SITE INSPECTIONS DURING THE PERIOD OF PLACEMENT, MONITORING AND SUPPORTING THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE CORRECTIVE ACTION PLAN AND PARTICIPATING IN AND REPORTING TO THE AGENCY ON THE PROGRESS TOWARD COMPLETING CORRECTIVE ACTION PLAN AS WELL AS ALL GOVERNANCE ACTIVITIES OF THE DISTRICT. NOW, THE LETTER ALSO NOTED THAT THE APPOINTMENT OF A CONSERVATOR DOES NOT RELIEVE THE DISTRICT AND ITS GOVERNING BOARD OF THE RESPONSIBILITY TO ALWAYS OPERATE THE DISTRICT IN COMPLIANCE WITH ALL APPLICABLE STATUTES AND RULES. MY WORK HAS ALREADY BEGUN. I HAVE DONE EXTENSIVE BACKGROUND READING ABOUT THE DISTRICT. I HAVE VIEWED SEVERAL BOARD MEETING VIDEOS AS WELL AS COMMITTEE MEETING VIDEOS. AND I HAVE MET WITH THE BOARD PRESIDENT AND SUPERINTENDENT TOGETHER. FROM THIS INITIAL I HAVE LEARNED OF THE MANY, MANY OUTSTANDING LISD ACCOMPLISHMENTS AND EFFORTS TO BECOME A BEACON OF EDUCATIONAL AFFLUENCE IN TEXAS AND THROUGHOUT THE NATION.

SO I CAN CONGRATULATE YOU FOR THOSE ACHIEVEMENTS. IN ADDITION, I HAVE SCHEDULED INDIVIDUAL MEETINGS WITH SIX OF SEVEN TRUSTEES THAT START TOMORROW.

ALSO, AS PART OF THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT I AM CONDUCTING I HAVE ALREADY BEGUN RECEIVING DOCUMENTS REQUESTED FROM THE ADMINISTRATION TO USE AND DEVELOPMENT OF THAT ASSESSMENT.

MY THANKS TO THE TRUSTEES WILL SCHEDULE THEIR APPOINTMENTS AND TO THE ADMINISTRATION STAFF FOR RESPONDING TO MY REQUEST IN A TIMELY MANNER. NOW, THE JOB OF A SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER AND THE JOB OF A SCHOOL BOARD IS VERY COMPLEX. SIMPLY PUT, A SCHOOL BOARD OVERSEES THE MANAGEMENT OF THE DISTRICT AND ENSURES THAT THE SUPERINTENDENT IMPLEMENTS AND MONITORS DISTRICT OPERATIONS. BUT THERE IS SO MUCH MORE. HIGH-PERFORMING SCHOOL BOARDS ALONG WITH THE SUPERINTENDENT UTILIZE DIPLOMACY, DISCRETION AND RESPECT TO MANAGE PERSONALITIES AND DIFFERING OPINIONS WHILE WORKING TOGETHER AS A TEAM TO BRING ABOUT THE BEST EDUCATION POSSIBLE FOR THE BOYS AND GIRLS THEY SERVE. NOW, THROUGHOUT MY OVER 40 YEAR CAREER IN EDUCATION I HAVE BEEN ON ONE SIDE AND ONE SIDE ONLY, THE SITE OF CHILDREN.

PERIOD. THEREFORE, DURING THIS PLACEMENT I AM GOING TO BE LASER FOCUSED ON ENSURING THAT THE TRUSTEES AND THE SUPERINTENDENT COLLECTIVELY LEAVES THE BEST INTEREST OF THE BOYS AND GIRLS OF LANCASTER IS , FIRST.

THE BOYS AND GIRLS OF LANCASTER ISD. I AM AGAIN PLEASED AND HONORED AND HUMBLED TO BE HERE AS THE CONSERVATOR IN YOUR DISTRICT. MY GOAL IS TO SERVE WITH YOU,

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COLLABORATE WITH YOU AND PUT MYSELF OUT OF A JOB. SO THANK YOU FOR THE TIME TONIGHT I LOOK FORWARD TO OUR WORK IN THE FUTURE.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. DOCTOR FRANCOIS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO TAKE YOUR SEAT ON THE DAIS

[7A. Discussion and possible approval of district wide LED lighting (G2, G3) Roger Oster, Presenter]

OR WAY TO THE NEXT BOARD MEETING? OKAY WILL MOVE ON TO HER ACTION ITEMS. A DISCUSSION, FOR HER.

>> WE HAVE MR. OSTER AS WELL AS OUR CEO.

>> GOOD EVENING PRESIDENT HAMILTON, DISTINGUISHED BOARD OF TRUSTEES AND DOCTOR HERRERA.

WANT TO PRESENT THE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR DISTRICTWIDE LED.

THERE'S A NUMBER OF BENEFITS UPGRADING OUR LIGHTING TO LED. NUMBER ONE SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCING THE ENERGY CONSUMPTION NUMBER TWO REDUCING THE COOLING LOAD COME THREE ELIMINATED ANNUAL LAMP REPLACEMENT COSTS FOR A HEDGE AGAINST FUTURE UTILITY RATE INCREASE AND FIVE PRODUCING LIGHTING MAINTENANCE COST. LED LIGHTING LIFE EXPECTANCY IS BY FAR SUPERIOR WHEN COMPARING OUR CURRENT FLUORESCENT STABILITY.

INSTALLING LED ACROSS THE DISTRICT WOULD DROP OUR ANNUAL ENERGY CONSUMPTION OF A COST AND COST ABOUT 57 PERCENT. NOW LET'S LOOK AT THE OVERALL COST COMPARISON WHEN WE FACTOR OUR ANNUAL REPLACEMENT AND MAINTENANCE COST OF LIGHTING ACROSS THE DISTRICT.

INSTALLING LED WOULD SAVE US AN ADDITIONAL 39,000 PER ANNUAL SAVINGS OF ABOUT 63 PERCENT.

THAT'S $188,000. THREE QUOTES HAVE BEEN SOLICITED ALL THREE COMPANIES PERFORM DISTRICTWIDE LIGHTING ANALYSIS AND AUDIT. THEY ENTERED A REFERRAL REQUEST FOR INFORMATION. THE BIGGEST TASK WILL BE RETROFITTING LAT LED LINEAR TUBES THEY HAVE A 10 YEAR WARRANTY WHICH IS 76-77 PERCENT OF THE PROJECT.

LED HIGH DAYS FIVE YEAR WARRANTY IS 2.3 PERCENT OF THE PROJECT.

LED CANDLE LIGHTS HAVE A FIVE-YEAR WARRANTY WHICH IS 8.1 PERCENT OF THE PROJECT.

EXTERIOR LED POST LIGHTS HAVE A 10 YEAR WARRANTY WHICH IS 2.3 PERCENT OF THE PROJECT.

AN EXTERIOR LED WALL PACKS OF A 10 YEAR WARRANTY WHICH IS 1.2 PERCENT OF THE PROJECT.

OCCUPIED CENTERS HAVE A FIVE-YEAR WARRANTY .1 PERCENT OF THE PROJECT.

EXIT EGRESS IS A FIVE-YEAR WARRANTY AND MAKES UP 2.8 PERCENT OF THE PROJECT.

AND THE AUDITORIUM HOUSE LIGHTS A THREE YEAR WARRANTY MAKES IT .9 PERCENT OF THE PROJECT.

WITH GLOBAL WARMING BEING A CONCERNING ISSUE ACROSS THE WORLD INSTALLING LED ACROSS OUR DISTRICT WOULD NOT JUST BRING THE STUDENTS ENVIRONMENTS BUT GENERATION ACROSS THE GLOBE.

THE DISTRICT RESPECTFULLY RECOMMENDS BOARD APPROVAL OF DISTRICTWIDE LED LIGHTING AT A COST NOT TO EXCEED 1,000,400, TO LOOK AT THE BUDGET SOURCE THE MAJORITY OF THIS WOULD BE THE FINAL BOND FUNDS AND THEN 94,000 WOULD BE COMING OUT OF THE FUND BALANCE FOR THIS PROJECT. ANY QUESTIONS?

>> LET ME FIRST ASK YOU FROM ROUGHLY 900,000 OVER MILLION WERE TO THE DIFFERENCE COME FROM?

>> THE DIFFERENCE CAME DURING THE AUDITORIUM AND THE EXITING EGRESS LIGHTING.ADDING THAT TO THE PROJECT.

>> IF THE DISTRICT DOES NOTHING AT THIS POINT WHAT YOU THINK THAT PUTS US IN TERMS OF ELECTRICITY?

>> WELL, THEY ALREADY RAISED DISTRIBUTION RATES EVEN THOUGH YOU ARE LOCKED IN THE DONE THAT THIS YEAR WHICH OUR DISTRICT DOES $21,000 ANNUALLY AND MORE THAN LIKELY IF THE ENERGY CRUNCH KEEPS GOING THAT WAY YOU WILL HAVE MORE DISTRIBUTION CHARGES COMING.

>> THIS TECHNICALLY WOULD NOT READ FOR ITSELF FOR LIKE SIX OR SEVEN YEARS?

>> FIVE YEARS. LEX AND THE TIME WE ARE TALKING ABOUT REX

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>> AND THE TIME WHEN IT COMES TO BUDGET REDUCTION WHY DOES IT MAKE SENSE TO DO THIS NOW? I UNDERSTAND THAT COST HAS GONE UP.

>> THIS WOULD BY FAR REDUCE OUR BUDGET GOING FORWARD HE WOULD BE ABLE TO REDUCE YOUR BUDGET OR UTILIZE WHAT I HOPE FOR UTILIZE THESE DOLLARS ELSEWHERE NEEDED FOR CARPET, DRYWALL, CEILINGS, ROOFS.

>> I THINK THERE IS A BETTER USAGE OF THE FUNDS. I DON'T THINK THE LIGHTING ALTHOUGH THE COST HAS INCREASED I DON'T THINK THIS IS A WISE PROJECT FOR US TO DO RIGHT NOW.

I HAVE QUITE A FEW OF THE QUESTIONS I KNOW THIS WAS EXPLAINED.

BUT THE BOARD INDICATED WHEN I WENT BACK TO LOOK AT THOSE QUOTES TODAY TO GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF HOW THEY VARIED THEY WERE NOT THERE. SO THAT WAS EXPLAINED TO ME AS TO WHY THEY WERE GONE. BUT THIS PROJECT DOES NOT HAVE MY SUPPORT.

>> I JUST WANTED TO SHARE WITH THE BOARD THAT THESE ARE BOND FUNDS THEY DO NOT GENERAL FUNDS. THEY HAVE NOT BEEN PART OF OUR GENERAL FUNDS AND WE HAVE UNTIL, I BELIEVE, SEPTEMBER TIME, IS THAT CORRECT? THESE ARE LEFT OVER FROM THE 2015 BOND SO WHEN LOOKING AT CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT COULD TAKE CARE OF WITH THESE FUNDS IN ORDER TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. THESE ARE NOT GENERAL FUNDS THIS IS NOT WOULD HAVE BEEN PART OF OUR GENERAL FUNDS THAT WE NEED TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS FOR THEY ARE BOND DOLLARS YOU CAN ONLY UTILIZE ON CAPITAL. I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE.

>> MS. MORRIS. GO AHEAD.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. I AM SPEAKING IN SUPPORT OF THIS.

IT IS BECAUSE I HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SIT INSIDE A CLASSROOM.

I KNOW THE LED LIGHTING, IT MAKES A DIFFERENCE.T MAKES A DIFFERENCE FOR THOSE WHO HAVE HARD EYESIGHT. IT MAKES A DIFFERENCE FOR THOSE WHO WEAR GLASSES AND THE GLARE.

AND SO, LOOKING AT HOW IT WILL BENEFIT OUR CHILDREN THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I SUPPORT THIS. IT'S, AS FAR AS THE BIDS WHEN I FIRST LOOKED AT IT MR. CLEWIS WAS RIGHT IT WAS THERE. I DID NOT LOOK BACK A SECOND TIME WHEN I LOOKED AT IT BUT I DO KNOW CONSISTENCY MAKES A DIFFERENCE AND I KNOW IN EVERY DOLLAR YOU HAVE USED IN THE DISTRICT TRUST HAS TO START SOMEWHERE. AND SO, I BELIEVE YOU HAVE FOLLOWED THE GUIDELINES FOR BIDDING FOR ITEMS AND JOBS. I WILL LEAVE THAT IN THE HANDS OF THE SUPERINTENDENT TO OVERSEE THAT ARE SINCE WE DON'T GET INVOLVED IN THAT.

AND SO, I WANT TO TELL YOU THANK YOU FOR EVEN LOOKING AND I KNOW YOU HAVE TRIED IN EVERY WAY TO LOOK AT OUR LIGHTING. HAVE A HARD TIME SITTING HERE WHEN I LOOK UP AT THE LIGHTS BECAUSE IT'S SO BRIGHT AND OF THE LED WILL DO SOME DIFFERENT THINGS AND I DO KNOW THOSE DOLLARS HAVE TO BE USED IN A TIMELY MANNER. FOR THINGS THAT WOULD BENEFIT THE DISTRICT. SO THANK YOU AND THANK YOU MADAM PRESIDENT.

>> MR. CLEWIS.

>> MR. OSTER, ANY OTHER CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT ARE ON YOUR PRIORITY LIST? I AM SURE THE LIGHTING WAS NOT THE ONLY ITEM THAT WE COULD PROBABLY SPEND OUR DOLLARS ON.

>> WE TACKLED A LOT OF THOSE WITH THE ROOFS. YOU ALL HAVE APPROVED AND WE HAVE OUTSOURCED THREE ROOFS THIS YEAR. PARKS FINISHING UP AND BELTLINE STARTING SHORTLY THOSE ARE THE BIGGEST ITEMS. THIS WAS A HIGH PRIORITY TO ME BECAUSE I SEE HOW MUCH NEEDS TO BE DONE ACROSS THE DISTRICT AND NOT ALL THOSE THINGS ARE BIG-TICKET ITEMS THAT WE NEED TO BE BROUGHT TO YOU ALL BUT THEY ARE SMALLER ITEMS THAT NEED TO BE SPREAD OUT ACROSS THE DISTRICT AND YOU KNOW WE ARE THE LAST ENERGY BID WE WERE

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UP TO $62,000 WITHOUT DOING LED THAT'S NOT COUNTING THE POWER FACTORY EQUIPMENT THAT YOU ALL APPROVED, AS WELL. YOU ARE LOOKING AT 62,000 ON TOP OF 188,000 IF WE GO BACK INTO CARPET, PAINT, WINDOWS BACK IN THE SCHOOLS FOR THE CHILDREN ARE.

>> I DON'T THINK I HEARD YOU SAY THERE WERE ANY OTHER SPECIFIC PROJECTS THAT WERE AT THE TOP OF THE PRIORITY LIST. IF I COULD ASK MR. GARRISON, WHAT IS THE DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT'S LEFT ROUGHLY FROM THE PROJECT?

>> IS LESS THAN THE TOTAL AMOUNTS OF THE BOND FUNDS WOULD BE JUST UNDER $100,000 TO SUPPLANT SUPPLEMENT TO COMPLETE THIS PROJECT. WE ARE TRYING TO CLOSE OUT THOSE BONDS TO CLARIFY A LITTLE BIT WE DO HAVE AN EXTENSIVE LIST OF CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT WE WANT TO HAVE DONE. EXTENSIVE LIST. BUT AS WE WERE REVIEWING THE PROJECTS WE WERE LOOKING AT TO TRY TO CLOSE THIS OUT NUMBER ONE ROGER IS RIGHT WE HAD LEAKING BUILDINGS SO WE PUT REMAINING BOND FUNDS THAT PORTION OF THE BOND FUND AS WELL AS THERE WAS MORE IN THERE THAT WAS USED TO TACKLE THE ROOF.

THIS IS THE REMAINING AFTER WE PUT THE ROOF PROJECT ON THERE. WE DID LOOK AT, A COMMITTEE LOOKED AT WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO? NOT ONLY CAN WE CLOSE THIS OUT AND HAVE THIS PROJECTCOMPLETED OVER THE SUMMER BUT THIS IS THE ONLY PROJECT THAT WILL PAY US BACK . REMEMBER, WE WILL GET A RETURN ON INVESTMENT THAT'S WHY ITWAS DECIDED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS . NOTE THAT MR. OSTER MADE IT CLEAR THERE'S AN INITIATIVE TO SAVE AS MUCH ENERGY AND BE MORE EFFICIENT AND THOSE OF DOLLARS THAT COULD BE REINVESTED TO THE DISTRICT IN DIFFERENT AREAS. CERTAINLY, THERE ARE PROJECTS AND THINGS THAT COME TO MIND SCOREBOARDS, RENOVATIONS THOSE KINDS OF THINGS THERE ARE A LAUNDRY LIST OF ITEMS WE COULD SPEND THIS ON WHAT IT IS BOND FUNDS AND IS TO BE CAPITAL PROJECTS. AGAIN, THIS WAS SELECTED BY COMMITTEE JUST BECAUSE WE COULD CLOSE UP THE ROOF AND OTHER PRIORITY AS WELL AS IS GOING TO BE REINVESTED INTO OTHER PROJECTS IN THE FUTURE.

>> SO YOU JUST MENTIONED A COMMITTEE. ARE THERE ANY PARENTS ON THIS COMMITTEE OR IS THIS JUST COMMITTEE MADE UP OF DISTRICT STAFF?

>> YES, THAT COMMITTEE DID HAVE PARENTS ON IT. REMEMBER, TO GO FORWARD WITH MANY OTHER CAPITAL PROJECTS I ASKED YOU ALL AT THE LAST BOARD MEETING TO COME TO OUR BOARD MEETING IN OUR BUSINESS MEETING IN APRIL WITH THE NAME OF CONSTITUENTS AND A MAGISTERIAL DISTRICT THAT COULD SURVIVE THAT. THESE HAVE BEEN FAMILIES WE HAVE BEEN IN COMMUNICATION WITH SINCE THE SUMMER AND MET WITH THEM MAYBE ABOUT A MONTH AND AND A HALF AGO. AND RECEIVED SOME PRIORITY LISTS FROM THEM, AS WELL.

MOST OF THOSE ITEMS BEING ATHLETIC FACILITIES AND EXPLAIN TO THEM IN THE NEXT LINE HERE ATHLETICS ARE A PRIORITY BUT NOT BEFORE OUR CLASSROOMS WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THOSE THINGS ARE PLACED FIRST IN ORDER TO DO THAT. HOWEVER, THAT COMMITTEE DID INCLUDE PARENTS ON THEIR. AGAIN, IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS FORMALIZED BY THE BOARD BUT GOING FORWARD I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT. IT WAS NOT THE DECISION THAT WE MADE AS EMPLOYEES AS A SILO.

>> IF I COULD ADD TO THAT, ONE OF THE THINGS ON THERE WAS LED LIGHTING BECAUSE ACROSS BOTH FIELDS THIS WOULD ADDRESS ATHLETICS AS WELL AS THE CLASH CLASSROOMS.

>> IF YOU WILL, MR. OSTER, CLARIFY THE AUDITORIUM LIGHTING PROJECT IN ADDITION TO WHICH FACILITIES WILL RECEIVE SOME TYPE OF UPDATE WITH LEDLIGHTING .

>> SAY AGAIN.

>> WHATEVER THE DOLLAR AMOUNT IS, WHO, WHAT CAMPUSES, WHAT BUILDINGS WILL RECEIVE THE LED LIGHTS?

>> ALL CAMPUSES WILL RECEIVE THEM OTHER THAN A PLEASANT RUN, WEST MAIN AND KELSEY ROBINSON, ALL THOSE CURRENTLY WERE BUILT WITH LED INSIDE.

>> THE AUDITORIUM, WHAT AUDITORIUM ARE YOU REFERRING TO?

>> THE AUDITORIUM AT THE HIGH SCHOOL, THE HOUSE LIGHTS. THE AUDITORIUM AT ELSIE ROBINSON WAS BUILT WITH LED. I WILL SAY ALSO WE HAVE RETROFITTED OURSELVES SOME OF ROSA PARKS AND THAT COST IS DOWN ON A ROSA PARKS. BECAUSE OF THAT.

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>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? FROM THE BOARD.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION. MR. OSTER, THERE WAS A LIST THAT WAS SUBMITTED.

>> I WANT TO REMIND YOU TO ACKNOWLEDGE ME PRIOR TO SPEAKING, PLEASE.

>> I STATED I HAD A QUESTION.

>> THE PROCESS IS TO ADDRESS THE BOARD PRESIDENT, MA'AM. WE WILL MOVE ON WITH MS. WHITFIELD. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE DAIS? MS. JONES.

>> I SAID SOME QUESTIONS EARLIER JUST A CHANCE TO REVIEW THEM.

ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I HAVE PERTAINING TO WARRANTY AND I DO HAVE THE FIGURES HERE.

SINCE THEY WILL HAVE THE ADDITIONAL FIVE YEARS AND THESE AREAS.

>> IF WE ADD TO THAT THAT WOULD BE ADDING TO THIS COST HERE.

>> IT WOULD BE ADDING TO THIS COST?

>> IF WE WANT TO ADD THE EXTRA FIVE YEARS YOU WOULD HAVE TO ADD THAT $41,500 TO 1,043,000 SO IT MAKE IT 1,084,000.

>> WITH THIS NUMBER HERE THE INITIAL WOULD BE 880,000. WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE IN COST WITH THIS NUMBER AND THE PREVIOUS NUMBER?

>> ADDING THE AUDITORIUM AND EGRESS LIGHTING AND ENGINEERING STAMP ON THE JOB.

>> ALL RIGHT SO, IS THE EGRESS LIGHTING AND THE AUDITORIUM ARE THOSE PRIORITIES FOR US?

>> YES, SIR.

>> MY QUESTION IS WHY WASN'T THOSE NUMBERS PROVIDED? IN THE ORIGINAL QUOTE.

>> SOME COMPANIES DON'T LIKE MESSING WITH AUDITORIUM LIGHTING BECAUSE OF SPECIAL LIGHTING WITH CONTROLS AND STUFF BUT WE ARE ABLE TO GO BACK AND MAKE SURE THEY WERE APPLES TO APPLES.

>> AND THE OTHER QUESTION WAS AROUND I SEE THEY HAVE DONE THEIR READINGS AND CALCULATIONS SO IDENTIFY THE SITES NOT NECESSARY WE WILL BE INSTALLING THESE LIGHTS.

>> OSTER, THANKS FOR THE CLARITY ABOUT THE SAVINGS WE WILL GET FROM THESE LADIES TO COME TO OUR UTILITY AND ELECTRICITY BILL. AND THE DOLLARS CAN GO BACK IN THECLASSROOMS SO THANK YOU FOR THE CLARITY ON THAT .

>> IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS YOU WOULD LIKE TO ASK I BROUGHT THEY MAKE HERE THE CEO AND CFO.

>> I DO HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION I AM SORRY, BUT THE PRESIDENT. RELATED TO THE OCCUPANCY SENSORS. I CAN PUT THEM IN CERTAIN OFFICES ONLY?

>> OFFICES AND CLASSROOMS.

>> WERE THEY DOING MORE AREAS?

>> I GUESS SO THEY WERE DOING LIKE CLOSETS LIKE UTILITY CLOSET AREAS.

THE GOVERNMENT ALSO FACTORING IN POSSIBLY BEING DAMAGED COMING ACROSS DAMAGE.

OF THE OCCUPANCY SENSORS >> AND THE ONE PERCENT OVERAGE SO THAT ONE PERCENT OF THE ACTUAL LIGHTS WE USE?

>> SO LIKE 80 PERCENT IS THE CHANGE OUT OF THE TWO BY FOUR LAMPS ARE RETROFITTING 80 PERCENT OUT OF THAT HOLE TOTAL ONE PERCENT WILL BE STOP HERE AND AS SOON AS THAT SAY ONE BALL GOES UP YOU HAVE A BULB REPLACEMENT AND THEN WE COULD CALL AGUILA AND THEY WOULD, REPLACE THAT STUFF.

>> DOCTOR HERRERA.

>> MADAM PRESIDENT, THANK YOU. I WANT TO CALL MR. GERSON BACK TO THE PODIUM AND ONE IN THE SPIRIT OF TRANSPARENCY MAKE SURE YOU SHARE WITH THE COMMUNITY WHITE THIS IS PULLED LAST TIME AND WHAT WE HAVE DONE SINCE ALONG WITH OUR LEGAL TEA .

MR. GERSON WOULD YOU SHARE THE PROCESS OF WHAT WE DID AND PULLING THEM FROM THE LAST

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BOARD MEETING AGENDA AND BRING IT BACK TODAY AS OPPOSED TO WAITING THE TOY SIX.

>> ONE, TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE BUT WILL MAKE SURE WE DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE IN.

THESE QUOTES. AS MR. OSTER SAID IN REVIEWING THOSE LIGHTS WE NOTICED THERE WERE SOME DISCREPANCIES WHEN WE WERE REVIEWING THE QUOTES NOTICING THAT THE AUDITOR LIGHTS WERE NOT ON THERE. WE ALSO HAD SOME QUESTIONS THAT WERE ILLEGAL FOR THE CONTRACT FEES BECAUSE OF MULTIPLE CONTRACTS WE USE. WE EMAIL THOSE TO MR. WHALEN FOR HIS REVIEW ABOUT CONCERNS WE HAD THE ENGINEERING THE STAMPED DRAWINGS THAT WE HAD APPLES TO APPLES COMPARISONS. ALL OF THE VENDORS WE HAVE ON THEIR ARE ON SOME SORT OF COOPERATIVE THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED PRIOR TO SO WERE GOOD ON THE STAND ALONE.

BUT WE WANT TO MAKE CERTAIN NOT ONLY FOR THE BOARD BUT FOR THE CONSTITUENTS AND OURSELVES THAT WE ARE MAKING THE BEST DECISION AND HAVE DIFFERENT INFORMATION THAT WILL CONTINUE TO DO THAT TO THE PROCESS. I KNOW WE HAVE AN 81 VOTED DOLLARS SOMETIMES BUT IT'S A LOT OF MONEY AND IT'S A BIG PROJECT IS GOING TO AFFECT A LOT OF BUILDINGS SO WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU MAKE THE RIGHT CHOICE THAT WE FOLLOW THROUGH AND THAT WE ARE GOOD STEWARDS OF THE TAXPAYERS DOLLARS AND FULLY IN COMPLIANCE BOTH FISCALLY AS WELL AS WITH MAINTENANCE, AS WELL.

>> THANK YOU FOR OBLIGING.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE DAIS?

>> I HAVE A QUESTION AND I HAVE A STATEMENT. TRUSTEE HAMILTON, MY QUESTION WHAT I WILL ASK IS THAT UNLESS YOU ARE ABLE TO SHOW ME AND LEGAL OR LOCAL THAT I HAVE TO ASK PERMISSION TO REPRESENT MY DISTRICT TO BE ACKNOWLEDGED I AM RESPECTFULLY THIS IS NOT ABOUT YOU AND ACKNOWLEDGING YOUR NAME OR WHAT HAVE YOU BUT IT IS A QUESTION FOR ANYONE THAT IS AT THE PODIUM. SO RESPECTFULLY, I'M GOING TO ASK THAT IF YOU HAVE A CONCERN REGARDING ME, THE WAY I ADDRESS SOMEONE NOT ON THE DAYS SEND ME AN EMAIL OR HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH ME. NEXT, I STATED THAT I HAVE A QUESTION SO I ACKNOWLEDGED THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK AND SPEAKING FOR MY DISTRICT. EXCUSE ME, I HAVE THE RIGHT TO REPRESENT MY DISTRICT. I'M GOING TO ASK YOU IS AS FAR AS THE DOCUMENTS ARE CONCERNED WE HAVE THE RIGHT AS A TRUSTEE TO ACKNOWLEDGE TO REPRESENT OUR DISTRICT AND IT IS FOR THE BOARD PRESIDENT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE PERSON THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK BUT IT IS NOT FOR US TO ASK YOU PERMISSION.

>> MS. WHITFIELD I WILL STOP YOU BECAUSE YOU ARE TAKING A LONG TIME.

IT'S NOT A MATTER OF PERMISSIONS IT IS IMPORTANT TO QUORUM.

ALL OF THE BOARD MEMBERS HAVE BEEN COMPLIANT AND THEY COMPLIED TO THE REQUEST.

AS ANY OTHER BOARD MEMBERS THAT HAVE SET HERE ON OUR DAIS. I'M ASKING YOU TO DO THE SAME THING.

>> YOU ARE STATING THAT RAISING MY HAND.

>> I AM NOT LOOKING FOR YOUR HAND I'M NOT ALWAYS LOOKING BOTH WAYS.

IF YOU WOULD PLEASE ACKNOWLEDGE ME. THAT WAS THE LAST BOARD MEETING, MS. WHITFIELD. I WAS LOOKING WHEN YOU DID THAT.

MS. WHITFIELD, IF YOU WOULD RESPECT ME AS THE BOARD PRESIDENT SITTING AND ACKNOWLEDGING ME TO SPEAKING I WILL GIVE YOU THE FLOOR. I HAVE NO PROBLEM GIVING YOU THE FLOOR IS A GIVEN TO EVERY OTHER BOARD MEMBER SITTING HERE ON THE DAIS.

>> WHEN I STATE THAT I DO HAVE A QUESTION.

>> THAT'S NOT APPROPRIATE. MR. HANLON CAN YOU ADDRESS THAT.

>> ACKNOWLEDGING I HAVE A QUESTION.

>> JUST ASKED TO BE RECOGNIZED.

>> WHEN I ACKNOWLEDGE I HAVE A QUESTION AND SHE CHOOSES NOT TO SAY ANYTHING THAT IS NOT RECOGNIZING. I DO NOT HAVE TO ASK PERMISSION TO SPEAK.

AND THAT'S WHAT SHE'S ASKING FOR. BECAUSE THEY ARE ASKING PERMISSION TO SPEAK. WHEN I STATE I HAVE A QUESTION I HAVE TO SAY I TO MAKE A WHITFIELD FOR DISTRICT 4 AND HAS TO BE RECOGNIZED? THAT'S ASKING PERMISSION.

AND SHE JUST CAME UP WITH IT.

>> WE HAVE ALWAYS DONE THIS. I HAVE BEEN ON THE BOARD AT 13 YEARS, MS. WHITFIELD, THIS HAS NOT CHANGED. THIS BOARDROOM OR ANY OTHER BOARD ROOM ACROSS THE STATE OF TEXAS.

>> A MEETING WE HAD WITH YOU AND I AND MR. JONES AS WELL AS ATTORNEY WAS ON THAT MEETING THAT I REQUESTED A DOSE STATE.

>> WE WILL HAVE A OFF OF OUR CONVERSATION BECAUSE WERE WASTING TIME HERE.

IF YOU WILL GO AHEAD AND ANSWER QUESTION I WOULD APPRECIATE IT.

>> THANK YOU. MR. OSTER, I APOLOGIZE, IT WAS SENT TO THE SUPERINTENDENT,

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THERE WAS A LIST OF CONCERNS THAT WAS SENT BY THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY AND IT WAS GATHERED BY THE CITY OF LANCASTER FROM THE CITY COUNCIL THAT WAS SENT OVER THAT EXPRESSED CONCERNS. I SENT AN EMAIL AND THEY SENT AN EMAIL BECAUSE WERE ALL CCED ON IT THERE WERE CONCERNS REGARDING THE FLOORS, THE BOARD AND WHAT HAVE YOU.

SO WITH THAT BE CONSIDERED PART OF THE CAPITAL? AND AS FAR AS THE RECONSTRUCTIONS AND THE REPAIRS THAT NEED TO BE COMPLETED THAT WERE REQUESTED AND THAT WAS ITSELF I DO BELIEVE YOU MENTIONED THE LED LIGHTS BUT IT COULD HAVE, I DON'T REMEMBER AT THIS POINT BUT THOSE ITEMS THE BASKETBALL FLOOR AND THOSE THINGS ALL OF THAT EVERYTHING ELSE ON THE LIST HAVE BEEN TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION AND PRIORITIZED IN REFERENCE TO THE AND SEPARATELY FROM THE LED LIGHTS AND HAVE BEEN REPAIRED?

>> YES, MA'AM. I REMEMBER THAT EMAIL. FIRST OFF, IT WAS THE GYM FLOOR FIRST AND IMAGINE THE LED LIGHTING AND THE SCOREBOARDS AND THE LOCKER ROOMS AND THEN REBRANDING THE ATHLETIC LOGOS. ALL THE GYM FLOORS ACROSS THE DISTRICT NOTCHES AT THE HIGH SCHOOL HAVE BEEN REFINISHED IN THE LAST ONE WILL JUNE 5 SO 847 OF THE EIGHT IS FINISHED.

IN THE NEXT ON THE LIST WAS LED LIGHTING WHICH WAS A TOPIC FOR US BECAUSE IT DOES AFFECT THE CLASSROOMS AS WELL AS THE ATHLETIC AREAS.

>> MAY I ADD TO THAT? TRUSTEE, I WANTED TO SHARE THAT YES WE DID RECEIVE THE EMAIL BUT I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT A LOT OF THOSE THINGS ARE ALREADY ON THE CAPITAL PROJECT LIST.

LIKE BEFORE I THINK THAT EMAIL CAME IN I BELIEVE BEFORE YOU ARE ABLE TO START AND ALREADY SCHEDULED OF THE FLOORS FINISHED. WE DID MEET WITH PARENTS FROM THAT EMAIL. WE MET AND THEY WERE PART OF THIS COMMITTEE, AS WELL.

THEY ARE AWARE OF IT IN COMMUNICATION WITH THEM AS TO WHERE WE ARE IN THE PROCESS.

SO YES, THOSE PROJECTS ARE ON THERE. ELEVATOR WAS ANOTHER ONE, LOCKER ROOM, THAT'S A MORE EXTENSIVE PROJECT THAT WE HAD DOLLARS FOUR.

AND LIKE YOU SAID, THE LIGHTING WAS THE OTHER MAJOR PROJECT ON THE LIST .

OTHER THAN THE SCOREBOARDS I WILL TAKE LIGHTING FOR SCOREBOARDS.

>> MR. CLEWIS.

>> WHAT IS YOUR CONDITION FOR THIS PROJECT?

>> THEY ARE ON YOUR GUISES. .

>> ONE QUESTION. HAVE YOU BEEN ABLE TO GO BACK FROM UTAH TO SEE WHEN THE LAST PROJECT FOR THE DISTRICT --?

>> I DON'T BELIEVE THERE HAS EVER BEEN ONE YOU HAD A PROPOSAL TO USE SOME LEFTOVER FUNDS FROM THE PROJECT TO OFFER SIDE LIGHTING. BUT NOTHING THAT I'M AWARE OF.

>> MR. MORRIS.

>> MADAM PRESIDENT, I WAS WRONG NOT TO SAY ANYTHING BUT WE HAVE SEVEN BOARD MEMBERS IS AROUND THIS TABLE 1 OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS WE SHOULD ALL KNOW IS ROBERTS RULES.

AND SO I WANT TO RESPECT YOU AND YOUR DECISION IT'S BECAUSE IN THE BEGINNING OF ROBERTS RULES IT SAYS WHEN YOU HAVE A QUESTION YOU ACKNOWLEDGE A CHAIR OF THE BOARD.

THIS IS NOT ANYTHING NEW. WE ACT AS A BOARD ACCORDING TO ROBERTS RULES.

THE LATEST EDITION AND I HAVE ALWAYS PERFORMED AND ALL OF THE ADDITIONS NOTHING HAS CHANGED.

I WANTED TO SAY THAT INSUPPORT OF YOU . RESPECTING YOU AND YOUR POSITION. WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE WANT TO SPEAK.

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I DON'T TAKE IT PERSONALLY. THAT I HAVE TO SAY MADAM PRESIDENT OR CHAIR.

MAY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK CUTE?

>> THANK YOU, THIS MORRIS. MR. JONES.

>> YOU MENTIONED THE DIFFERENCE IN PRICE IN THE AUDITORIUM IS THAT IT? AND WE HAD DIFFERENT PRICES ON THERE AS WELL BUT FOR THOSE TO ADD ON AFTER THIS NEVER HERE?

>> YES, SIR.

>> AND ADDING THE SURETY BOND ON IT, AS WELL.

>> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY HEARING ON BOARD THIS IS AN ACTION ITEM IS THERE A MOTION?

>> I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE DISTRICTWIDE LED LIGHTING AS PRESENTED.

MOTION BY MS. MORRIS IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND BY MR. SMITH, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION FROM THE BOARD? HEARINGNONE OF CALL FOR THE VOTE .

>>.

>> I WILL ABSTAIN I HAVE RELATIONSHIPS WITH SEVERAL OF THE VENDORS.

MR. CLEWIS.

>> NOW.

>> WE HAVE AN EXTENSION, TO NOSE, THREE ASSISTS. MOTION PASSES.NEXT ACTION

[7B. Consider possible approval to purchase of MasteryPrep for preparation for the EOC state exams. (G1) Rosa Hernandez, Presenter]

ITEM IS B CONSIDER POSSIBLE APPROVAL OF PURCHASE OF MASTERY PREP FOR PREPARATION FOR THE EEOC STATE EXAMINATIONS.

>> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I'M ON CALL FORD MS. PARKER TO SHARE THAT INFORMATION WITH THE

BOARD AND OUR COMMUNITY. >> THAT EVENING MADAM BOARD PRESIDENT, DISTANT WHICH BOARD MEMBERS AND DOCTOR FOR HERRERA, I FIRST HAVE TO ASK YOU TO EXCUSE AND PRETTY EXCITING WEEKEND AND CELEBRATING WITH OUR STUDENTS DON'T MESS WITH THE DEPUTY. I AM HERE TO TALK TO YOU FIRST ABOUT MASTERY PREP.

MASTERY PREP IS A COLLEGE CAREER WITH MILITARY READINESS PROGRAM AND OFFERS AN ACT, ICT, TSI AND EOC TUTORIALS AND BOOT CAMPS. WE ALREADY PARTNER WITH MASTERY WE CAME TO YOU IN AUGUST TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT CURRICULUM THAT WE PROCURE FROM THEM FOR ACT PREP CLASSES AND ALSO TO WORK WITH OUR STUDENTS WHO WERE REPEAT EEOC TESTTAKERS.

AND SO, THROUGHOUT THAT PARTNERSHIP WE HAVE SEEN SOME OF THE VALUE AND AFTER STUDENTS AND PROVIDED MATERIALS AND SO WE HAVE SOME, I SHOULD NOT SAY LEFTOVER, MONEY WE DID NOT SPEND ANY COMPENSATORY AND AND REACHED OUT TO THEM ABOUT EXTENDING OUR PARTNERSHIP SO THAT MORE OF OUR STUDENTS CAN WORK WITH THEM IN AREAS AS MENTIONED HERE AT THE HIGH SCHOOL, BIOLOGY, ALGEBRA ONE, U.S. HISTORY, ENGLISH ONE, ENGLISH TWO AND THEN ENGLISH ONE, ALGEBRA ONE AND BIOLOGY. WE ARE USING THIS AS A TIER 2 INSTRUCTIONAL TOOL AND SO I WILL SPEAK WITH YOU LATER ABOUT ANOTHERTOOL THAT WE ARE ADDING AS A SUPPLEMENTARY TO TIER 1 .

WHAT WILL BE DOING WITH MASTERY PREP IS WORKING WITH OUR STUDENTS WHO WE HAVE NOTICED IN OUR DISTRICT BENCHMARKS NEED A LITTLE EXTRA SUPPORT. AND SO, THIS WILL BE AS MENTIONED WILL HAVE SOME MORNING SESSIONS, AFTERNOON SESSIONS, WE WILL BE PULLING THEM FROM THE CLASSROOM. THEY ARE THREE HOURS EACH, PRETTY INTENSIVE, THERE IS ALSO INFORMATION THAT THEY ARE PROVIDING FOR US AS YOU SEE PER STUDENT THEY WILL BE ABLE TO TAKE HOME AND PRACTICE. THE COST IS NOT TO EXCEED 85,000.

THAT NUMBER IS EYEBROW RAISING BECAUSE WE ARE ALREADY IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THEM FOR 67,000. MOVING FORWARD WE WILL START COMING TO A NOT TO EXCEED SO DO NOT HAVE TO COME EVERY SINGLE TIME WE ARE OVER 50,000. WE WILL USE THE STATE COMPENSATORY FUNDS AS MENTIONED. WE WILL SERVICE OUR STUDENTS WHO ARE GRADES NINE THROUGH 12 AND AS MENTIONED THESE ARE BOOT CAMP SESSIONS THEY WILL RECEIVE

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100 WORKBOOKS FOR EACH OF THE SESSIONS SO THE STUDENTS WILL BE ABLE TO WORK OUTSIDE THE TIME OF THEIR CLASSES. I WILL GO BACK SO YOU CAN SEE WHEN THE SESSIONS ARE.

THEY WILL START THE WEEK BEFORE OUR STUDENTS TAKE THE STAR EXAM AND WITH THAT I WILL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

>> BOARD, ANY QUESTIONS? MR. JONES.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE INFORMATION. I'M GLAD YOUR VOICE IS COMING BACK. AS I REVIEWED THIS I HAD SOME QUESTIONS AND THANK YOU FOR THE RESPONSE. IT APPEARS THAT THESE BOOT CAMPS WILL BE THE DAY BEFORE THEY ACTUALLY TAKE THESTAR . THE WEEK BEFORE, OKAY. I WOULD SAY BASED ON MY EXPERIENCE THAT WILL BE BENEFICIAL IT WILL BE FRESH ON THEIR MINDS.

GOING TO THESE PARTICULAR PROPS. ALSO, FROM MY EXPERIENCE AS A CLASSROOM PRESIDENT AS WELL THE STUDENTS CAN TAKE THE BOOKS HOME AND COME BACK WITH QUESTIONS IT WOULD ALSO BENEFIT AND I GUESS SUPPORT STAFF WILL BE THE ONES CONDUCTING THE BOOT CAMP, IS THAT CORRECT?

>> ACTUALLY, MASTERY PREP IS COMING IN AND CONDUCTING THE BOOT CAMPS.

WHAT OUR STAFF IS HOPING TO DO IS TO HELP TO DESIGN THE EXACT STANDARDS THAT THEY NEED TO GO OVER A LITTLE BIT MORE IN DEPT . AND SO, IN ONE OF YOUR QUESTIONS YOU KIND OF ASKED WHO WOULD BE WORKING WITH THEM AND MONITORING, WE ALREADY HAVE BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE A PARTNERSHIP WITH THEM, OUR COORDINATORS HAVE WITH MASTERY PREP WILL MAKE SURE THAT THEY DON'T JUST COME IN AND PRESENT A CAM PROGRAM WITH THEM BUT PRESENTED A PROGRAM WHERE WERE SAYING THAT OUR STUDENTS HAVE GAPS THAT THEY CAN HELP OUR STUDENTS AS TO WHERE THE GAPS EXIST.

>> THAT BEING SAID, SO MASTERY PREP HAVE 100 STUDENTS WHO HAVE TWO MASTERY PREPS THAT THEIR

REPORTING NOW? >> YES.

SO OUR STAFF WILL BE INVOLVED JUST WILL BE LEADING THE SESSION THERE WILL BE IN THE SESSION.

>> MS. MORRIS.

>> I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS TO US.I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR YOU BUT FOR SOME REASON, THE EDUCATIONAL TWEAK AND IT HAS ALREADY BEEN TALKED ABOUT.

HOW SUCCESSFUL IT HAS WORKED. EVEN LOOKING AT WHERE OUR CHILDREN ARE NOW WE CAN SEE THE GROWTH. WE ARE NOT 100 PERCENT THERE BUT WE ARE MOVING RAPIDLY IN THAT DIRECTION. SO THANK YOU FOR CONTINUING TO LOOK HIGHER TO PROVIDE OUR COMMUNITY FOR PREPARATION.

>> ONE OF THE THINGS WHENEVER WE START PARTNERING WITH MASTERY PREP WAS COMING TO THE DISTRICT WE HAVE SEVERAL STUDENTS WHO WERE TAKING THE EOC MULTIPLE TIMES WHICH IS THERE'S A REQUIREMENT FOR FIVE OF THEM TO BE PASSED IN ORDER TO EARN A DIPLOMA.

WE DO NOT WANT TO WAIT TILL THE SUMMER SO WE TRY TO MAKE SURE WE ASSESS AND SEE WHERE THE STUDENTS GAPS ARE. WE LOOK AT INFORMATION T CENSUS.

WE LOOK AS MUCH WE CAN AND WITH OUR PARENTS WHAT THEY KNOW AHEAD OF TIME.

MANY OF OUR STUDENTS AND I'M SPEAKING TO EOC BUT EVEN THE ELEMENTARY THEY CAN TALK THROUGH THE DATA AND TELL YOU WHAT THEY NEED AND SO AS THEY ARE SITTING IN THE SESSION THEY GO THEY ARE VERY MUCH AWARE THIS IS A PART THAT I ABSOLUTELY NEED TO PAY ATTENTION TO IF I CAN GET FIVE MORE QUESTIONS IN THIS AREA THAT COULD GET ME OVER TO THE NEXT LEVEL TO WHERE I NEED THE GRADUATION REQUIREMENTS.AND SO, IF YOU NOTICED YOU ARE GOING ALL IN TRYING TO REDUCE THAT NUMBER EARLY ON IN THE BE VERY, VERY INTENTIONAL AROUND WHO IS IN THOSE SESSIONS AT THE HIGH SCHOOL.

>> THANK YOU, ANY QUESTIONS?

>> MS. PARKER, YOU STATED YOU ARE CURRENTLY UNDER CONTRACT WITH MASTERCRAFT?

>> YES, FOR SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

> AS FAR AS THIS PROGRAM YOU ARE SPEAKING OF IS THIS PROGRAM DO NOT CURRENTLY HAVE A PROGRAM IN PLACE THAT IS EQUIVALENT TO WHAT MASTER PREP IS OFFERING OUR STUDENTS?

>> TIER 1 INSTRUCTION IS OUR FIRST INSTRUCTION SO TIER 2 THIS IS VERY INTENSE.

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I WILL NECESSARILY SAY PERSONALIZED BUT INTENTIONAL. THIS IS THE EXTRA THAT'S OUTSIDE OF THAT. IF YOU NOTICE THE SESSIONS WE ARE PULLING OUR STUDENTS FROM CLASS SO THEY CAN GET INTENSE INSTRUCTION AROUND WHATEVER IT IS THAT THE SUBJECT IS THAT WE MENTIONED ON THE SITE.

>> CAN YOU PLEASE ADVISE WHAT PROGRAM WE USED LAST YEAR?

>> WE DID NOT HAVE THIS PART OF MASTERY PREP SO WE DRANK SOME THINGS WITH OUR TEACHERS.

WE HAD OUR OWN BOOT CAMP, WE SAW THE RESULTS WE HAD THERE AND WAITED WE NEEDED TO TRY SOMETHING DIFFERENT AND AGAIN BE A LITTLE MORE INTENTIONAL AND MAKING SURE OUR STUDENTS SUCCEED.

>> THIS WILL BE THE FIRST TIME THEY'RE ACTUALLY IMPLEMENTING A PROGRAM FOR OUR GRADUATE STUDENTS?

>> THIS PROGRAM. THIS DISTRICT AS EVERY DISTRICT ACROSS THE STATE THERE ARE PROGRAMS WE PUT TOGETHER EVERY SINGLE YEAR. WHAT WE FOUND WAS THAT THE PROGRAM WE HAD WITH MASTERY PREP HAS BEEN SUCCESSFUL SO WE EXTENDED IT WITH HOPES THAT WITH THIS SPRING ASSESSMENT THIS WILL BE SOMETHING THAT WILL LIKELY CONTINUE.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR DOCTOR BARKER? THIS IS AN ACTION ITEM IS THERE A MOTION?

>> MADAM PRESIDENT, I MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT THE PURCHASE OF THE MASTERY PREP AND FRUSTRATION FOR THE EOC AS PRESENTED.

>> MOTION BY MR. JONES, IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND BY MR. SMITH.

TO APPROVE THE PURCHASE OF A MASTERY PREP FOR PREPARATION FOR THE EOC STATE EXAMS. ANY DISCUSSION FROM THEBOARD? HEARING THEN I'LL CALL FOR THE VOTE.

>> .

>> MYSELF VOTING YES, MOTION PASSES. BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO HER NEXT ACTION ITEM MS. WHITFIELD I WILL REMIND YOU TO PLEASE ASK I WILL NOT ASK FOR MAKE OUR RECOGNITION PRIOR TO SPEAKING. AS YOU MENTIONED YOU WANT TO REPRESENT YOUR DISTRICT WE ASK CHILDREN TO FOLLOW SIMPLE INSTRUCTIONS DAILY AND SO BASED ON THE DECORUM ON THIS BOARD I

[7C. Consider possible approval for Mastery Education for the next board meeting. (G1)]

WOULD APPRECIATE IF YOU ACKNOWLEDGE ME PRIOR TO SPEAKING AS A REMINDER, ONCE AGAIN. OKAY MOVING FORWARD TO THE NEXT ACTION ITEM TO CONSIDER POSSIBLE APPROVAL TO PURCHASE PREPARATION MASTERY EDUCATION FOR PREPARATION FOR EOC EXAMS.

>> THANK YOU MADAM PRESIDENT, MR., DOCTOR BARKER WILL PRESENT THAT FOR THE BOARD.

>> HELLO MADAM PRESIDENT, DISTANT WHICH BOARD MEMBERS, DOCTOR HERRERA.THIS EXTENSION OF OUR TIER 1 INSTRUCTION AS I MENTIONED THE MASTERY PREP WE ARE ADDING A MEASURE AS PART OF OUR FIRST INSTRUCTION. I DO WANT TO SAY THAT MEASURING UP HAS BEEN A PART OF THE INSTRUCTIONAL PROGRAM HERE AT LANCASTER FOR MANY, MANY YEARS. AND FOLLOWING GOING FORWARD AND GOING FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE I ACTUALLY PULLED BEFORE WE ENTER ANY OF OUR REQUISITIONS I PULLED TO SEE ARE WE ALREADY DOING BUSINESS WITH ANY COMPANIES THAT WERE USING AND ONE OF THE THINGS I FOUND IS THAT THIS IS A COMPANY THAT MANY OF OUR CAMPUSES ARE USING EXTENSIVELY AND HAVE BEEN FOR THE ENTIRE YEAR. SO AS WE ARE LOOKING AT THE PROGRAM AT THE HIGH SCHOOL AND WANTING TO ADD AND NOTICED WE HAVE A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT THAT WAS ALREADY BEING PAID OUT TO MEASURING UP OR MASTERY EDUCATION.

THIS IS A BLENDED SOLUTION TO ASSESS OUR STUDENTS, TARGET INSTRUCTION, AND OFFER DIFFERENT EDUCATION. IT'S CUSTOMIZE FOR OUR DISTRICT.

LIKE MASTERY PREP WE LOOK AT WHAT MASTER EDUCATION HAS TO OFFER WITH MEASURING UP WE HELP TO SUPPLEMENT WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THE CLASSROOM. THIS IS USED IN THE CLASSROOM AS A PART OF THE FIRST INSTRUCTION. ALL OF THE STUDENTS REGARDLESS OF IF THEY ARE REPEAT ON THESE PARTICULAR CAMPUSES AND SOME OF THEM SHOULD SAID ARE ALREADY UTILIZING MASTERY PREP IN THEIR CLASSROOMS. AND SO, PRE WAS ONE OF OUR FIRST WE USE VERY EARLY ON. GWC AND LMS WHENEVER THE TEAM CAME AND TALKED TO YOU ABOUT THE TIP PLAN MEASURING UP WITH PART OF THE TIP PLAN AND THEN BEEN USING IT FOR LONGER THAN AT LEAST 1/4, I WOULD SAY. AND THEN NOW BUT WE WILL START TO DO IS TO BE VERY TARGETED

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WITH ALL THE OTHER STUDENTS AT THE HIGH SCHOOL AND EXTEND OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH YOU.

AND SO, THE ASK WHENEVER I LOOKED AT HOW MUCH WE ARE SPENDING IS TO NOT TO EXCEED 100,000. I WILL ALSO SAY MOVING FORWARD THAT WE'VE ALREADY TALKED TO MASTERY EDUCATION ABOUT WHAT CAN YOU DO FOR US AS A DISTRICT? SINCE ALL OF OUR CAMPUSES HAVE FOUND VALUE MANY OF OUR CAMPUSES WILL SAY HAVE FOUND VALUE IN OTHER MATERIALS WE WILL BE LOOKING AT HOW TO INCORPORATE THIS FROM THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR AND NOT COME TO YOU WITH THIS AT THIS POINT IN THE SCHOOL YEAR.

SCHOOL CALENDAR. SO THE COST THIS IS AROUND THE COURSES AND LICENSING TO BE ABLE TO USE IT ON THE CHROME BOOKS AND AGAIN THIS IS TO BE USED AND STARR TESTED COURSES THE PRE, GWC AND LHS. ANY QUESTIONS?

>> MADAM PRESIDENT.

>> MR. SMITH.

>> NOT TO EXCEED 100 K, HOW MANY LICENSES DOES DISCOVERED, THE SECOND COVERS ABOUT FOUR CAMPUSES? > ALL THE STUDENTS ON THOSE CAMPUSES, TRYING TO CALCULATE IN MY HEAD HOW MANY STUDENTS WITH THAT BE, ROUGHLY ABOUT 4000 STUDENTS, MAYBE. ABOUT 4000 STUDENTS. BUT IT'S NOT JUST LICENSE WE ACTUALLY GET. MATERIALS THIS INCLUDES PREP MATERIALS FOR THE TEACHERS AS WELL AS THE CLASSROOM STUDENTS IN THE CLASSROOM. BUT THE LICENSES WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THE STUDENTS HAD ON THEIR CHROME BOOKS SO THEY ARE ABLE TO UTILIZE THAT, AS WELL.

WE USE IN SMALL-GROUP INSTRUCTION ALL DIFFERENT WAYS SATURDAY ACADEMY AFTER SCHOOL SO IT IS AND PERSONALLY I LOOK AT AFTER SCHOOL AND SATURDAY ACADEMY AS AN EXTENSION OF THAT FIRST INSTRUCTION. AND SO, THOSE MATERIALS WERE ON THERE.

WHICH YOU CAN I SAW YOU CALCULATING AS TO WHY MOVING FORWARD WILL BE TALKING TO MASTERY EDUCATION ABOUT WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE ACROSS THE DISTRICT.

IN DOING THE DUE DILIGENCE WE ARE HERE NOW AND WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT ONE WE MEET THE BOARD GOALS AND FOLLOW OUR BOARD POLICY AND NEVER TO MAKE SURE OUR STUDENTS GET WHAT THEY NEED.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR EXPLAINING THAT I DID THAT. THE QUESTION I WANT TO ASK EARLIER FOR THE PURPOSE ITEM WAS WHY WHEN GWC INCLUDED WITH THE FIRST NUMBER BUT THAT MAKES IT MORE SENSE NOW. I DID SEE JD WHOLE.

>> THEY ARE ALWAYS INCLUDED AND LHS SO IS THE EARLY COLLEGE.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? MR. JONES.

>> WITH THE PRINTING MATERIALS WHEN WILL THOSE BE RECEIVED?

>> AS SOON AS YOU ALL SAY YES AND WE GET BACK FROM BREAK. MONDAY THE 10TH.

>> THANK YOU. AND THEN LOOKING AT THE PREVIOUS MASTERY PREP THIS WILL BE ON A DAY TO DAY BASIS WITH THE INSTRUCTION GOING? AND I GUESS THE TEACHER WILL IDENTIFY WOULD BE MORE INDIVIDUALLY OR WHOLE INSTRUCTION ?

>> IT WILL BE SMALL GROUPS, SUNDAY'S OB WHOLE GROUP. YOU ARE IN SOMEWHAT WE SAY SOMEWHAT BECAUSE IT'S NOT EVERY SINGLE SUBJECT IS IN A SCOPING SEQUENCE.

TRUSTEE WHITFIELD MAY SEE IT COME HOME ASHOMEWORK . IT VARIES AS HOW THOSE THINGS WILL BE AS I MENTIONED WE USE IT AFTER SCHOOL AND SOME SUBJECTS WE MAY USE IT ON SATURDAY SCHOOL.

>> LASTLY, I HAVE BEEN REMOVED FOR A WHILE FOR ONLINE ASSESSMENTS.

WHEN WE WERE DOING THIS WE HAD SPECIFIC TWEAKS AND A FULL-BLOWN STARR EXAM.

THIS IS. MUCH THE SAME ACCESS THE KIDS WILL HAVE ACCESS TO?

>> THEY MAY HAVE ACCESS BUT WILL NOT BE UTILIZING IN THAT WAY.

ALSO, ONE ATTRACTION TO MASTERY EDUCATION IS AS A THE STATE TRANSITIONS TO A NEW FORMAT FOR STARR THE TOOLS THEY HAVE TO OFFER SEEM TO BE MORE ALIGNED THAN OTHER PARTNERS THAT WE . JUST WITH THE ENHANCED ITEM TYPES THIS HELPS US TO MAKE

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THAT A PART OF OUR FIRST INSTRUCTION.

>> MY LAST WILL BE A STATEMENT OF IS IT IS THAT THE TAIL END FOR US TO DO THIS BUT WE GET THE PRODUCT MOVING FORWARD HOW WE WILL BEGIN TO TRACK PROGRESS LIKE FROM A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE.

>> MOST EVERYTHING WE HAVE BEEN TRACKING PROGRESS WITH IS HOW WE LOOK AT OUR CONTENT FORMATIVE ASSESSMENTS. AND SO, THAT COULD BE A UNIT ASSESSMENT.

WHENEVER WE MEET FOR PLC OR CLUSTER WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT DATA FROM CLASSROOM TO CLASSROOM. WE TALK ABOUT THE MATERIALS UTILIZED.

WE TRIED TO GET VERY STANDARD IF YOU AND I AND PRESIDENT HAMILTON ARE ALL TEACHING THE SAME SUBJECT WE TRIED TO MAKE SURE WE ARE PLANNING TOGETHER, USING THE SAME MATERIAL, THAT GIVES US THE USAGE AS WELL AS THE HOW THE IMPLEMENTATION IS REALLY GOING.

THE ASSESSMENT IS ONGOING. I CAN'T SAY THIS WEAKLY BUT I WILL SAY AT LEAST BIWEEKLY AND SOMETIMES MONTHLY BUT WE LOOK AT STUDENT PERFORMANCE AND WE ALSO LOOK AT HOW IT'S BEING UTILIZED IN THE CLASSROOM. THAT IS THE BEST ANSWER I COULD GIVE YOU AS TO HOW WE ARE ASSESSING PROGRESS. WE TRIED TO DO IT WITH FIDELITY AS MUCH AS WE CAN.

CHECK TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE INTERVALS WE ARE LOOKING AT HOW IT'S BEING UTILIZED AND HELP OUR STUDENTS ARE INTERACTING WITH THE INFORMATION.

>> LAST QUESTION, YOU SORT FIDELITY. DOES THIS PROGRAM OFFER A WAY FOR US 25 HOW LONG THE STUDENTS ARE IN THEIR HOW MANY MINUTES?

>> YES, I MYSELF AND DOCTOR FERRERA WILL TELL YOU A BOY TRYING TO GET SOMEONE TO CREATE A DASHBOARD WITH THE STUDENT USAGE AND TEACHER USAGE. IN MY EMAIL WITH SOME OF OUR CURRICULUM I EVEN RECEIVED SOME OF THE INFORMATION EVERY NIGHT BUT JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE DOING WHAT WE SAID THAT WE ARE GOING TO DO. WE GIVE THE PROMISE TO YOU ALL AND THE CONSTITUENTS YOU REPRESENT THAT WEREGIVING OUR STUDENTS THE VERY BEST EDUCATION . WE ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR RETURN ON INSTRUCTION IS ACTUALLY THE RETURN WE ALL SHOULD FOR FOR OUR STUDENTS. WE DO MONITOR THE USAGE DATA.

BUT WE ALSO MONITOR THE STUDENT PERFORMANCE AROUND IT.

>> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE DAIS. A HEARING ON THIS IS AN ACTION ITEM IS THERE A MOTION?

>> MADAM PRESIDENT I MOVED WE MOVE MASTERY EDUCATION.

>> MOTION BY MR. JONES, IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND BY MS. MORRIS TO PROVE MASTERY EDUCATION PREPARATION FOR EOC ESTATE EXAMS. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING ON OCTOBER THE VOTE.

>>.

>> MYSELF VOTING YES, MOTION PASSES. AT THIS TIME THE BOARD IS GONNA TAKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK BEFORE GOING ONTO BOARD MATTERS. WE WE ARE GOING TO MOVE TO A

[8A. Discussion of Board Operating Guidelines review.]

BOARD MATTERS. A IS DISCUSSION OF BOARD OPERATING REVIEW.

THE SHERIFF FOR THIS COMMITTEE IS MS. MORRIS.

>>.

THAT? I WILL REPEAT, THANK YOU AGAIN. BUT THE REST OF IT THEY MAY HAVE HURT A LITTLE BIT OF IT. I SENT OUT QUESTIONS FOR EACH OF THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS.

WELL, I SEND A MESSAGE ASKING TO REVIEW AND ANY QUESTIONS THEY MAY HAVE IN PREPARATION FOR YOU TONIGHT. SINCE I DID NOT GIVE ANY INPUT SO IT WAS STRICTLY DONE THE RIGHT WAY WITH THE ATTORNEY'S ADVICE. I KNOW THAT MS. WHITFIELD IS HERE SO IF SHE HAS ANY QUESTIONS OR DO WE NEED TO GO THROUGH THIS.

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I KNOW WE WENT THROUGH THIS EXTENSIVELY PAGE BY PAGE AND THERE WAS NOTES THAT WAS SENT.

AGAIN, I DIDN'T GET ANY FEEDBACK FROM ANY OF THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS.

IF ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS OR WHERE WE WANT TO START FOR DISCUSSION, THE FLOOR IS OPEN.

>> I ACTUALLY, I WANTED TO EXPRESS SOME CONCERNS REGARDING THE INFORMATION THAT WAS SHARED. I DID RESPOND WITH AN EMAIL ONE ADVISING THAT IT WAS NEVER DISCUSSED AS A COMMITTEE TO DISCUSS THIS ITEM ON TONIGHT AT ALL.

WE FIND OUT VIA EMAIL AND THAT WAS THE ONLY AS IF THAT'S THE ONLY CHOICE AND IT WAS DISCUSSED BOTH BY MYSELF AND ALTHOUGH TRUSTEE STEPHENSON IS NOT HERE BUT I DID RECEIVE THIS EMAIL AS WELL REQUESTING TO HAVE TO RESCHEDULE THIS. FOR ANOTHER DAY BECAUSE HE HAD A LOT OF CONCERNS HE WANTED TO EXPRESS PER HIS EMAIL. I HAVE CONCERNS I WANTED TO EXPRESS PER MY EMAIL. ONE OF THOSE THINGS WERE THERE IS WE DID HAVE A DISCUSSION.

WE HAD I BELIEVE FOUR MEETINGS, I THINK, FIVE, OKAY FIVE. WE HAD FIVE MEETINGS REGARDING THIS AND WE WENT OVER, WE DID GO OVER THIS IN-DEPTH. HOWEVER, THERE WERE ONCE I RECEIVED THE EMAIL FROM WHAT THE ATTORNEY AFTER ATTORNEY COMPLETED IT IT SHOWS THAT THERE IS A LOT MORE INFORMATION THAT WAS PLACED IN THESE GUIDELINES THAT WE DID NOT DISCUSS.A LOT OF THIS INFORMATION I DON'T KNOW WHEN IT CAME AND WENT IT WAS INPUTTED BUT IT A LOT OF THIS IT APPEARS TO BE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST.

IT ALSO APPEARS WHEN I SAY CONFLICT OF INTEREST WE HAVE A LAW LISTED IN HERE OR SHALL I SAY, YES, WE HAVE LAW LISTED IN HERE BUT THEN THERE ARE ITEMS IN YOUR THAT CONFLICT WITH LAW.

AGAIN, THE REASON, I'M GOING TO ASK AT THIS TIME THAT WE HAVE ANOTHER MEETING.

THE MEETING THAT THIS IS PLACED ON HOLD. WE HAVE ANOTHER MEETING BECAUSE THE NEW INFORMATION THAT IS IN HERE WHICH IS A LOT OF A NEW INFORMATION WAS NEVER DISCUSSED. HOWEVER, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO STATE IS THAT DURING OUR OCTOBER 24, 2022, ABOUT 25 MINUTES INTO THE CONVERSATION WHICH IS THE AUDIO CAN BE HEARD ONLINE IF YOU GO TO LISD SITE TO LISTEN TO THE MEETING IT WAS CLEARLY STATED THE GUIDELINES WERE CREATED, A LOT OF THE INFORMATION THAT WAS IN THE GUIDELINES WE WENT OVER WAS CREATED, I'M SORRY, IT WAS TO BE MALICIOUS AND CONTROLLING THE CONTROL BOARD.

THIS WAS STATED DURING THAT MEETING AND THE MALICIOUSNESS AND THE CONTROLLING OF THE BOARD THE INFORMATION THAT WAS PUT IN HERE THAT WAS INTENTIONALLY MALICIOUS AND CONTROLLING OF THE BOARD WAS STATED BY TRUSTEE HAMILTON. THERE WAS A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE WERE DISCUSSING TO REMOVE FROM THIS FROM THE GUIDELINES AND THAT WAS BASED ON PAST PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION THAT TIE JONES, MARION HAMILTON AND CAROLYN MORRIS WERE ON AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE POLICY, WHEN WE LOOK AT THE INFORMATION THE ATTORNEY SUBMITTED, IF YOU LOOK AT THE SIGNATURES MARION HAMILTON AND CAROLYN MORRIS DID NOT SIGN THE OPERATING GUIDELINES FROM PAST ADMINISTRATION. HOWEVER, WHEN I LOOK AT THE INFORMATION THAT WAS SUBMITTED. THE ATTORNEY, PER THE BOARD'S REQUEST WHICH CONSISTS OF THOSE THREE AND THE NEW, THE INFORMATION IN YOUR IT NOTES THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION

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WAS REQUESTED TO BE ADDED AFTER OUR FIVE HOUR MEETING WAS HAD. AND A LOT OF THAT INFORMATION WAS REQUESTED BY TRUSTEE HAMILTON.

>> MS. WHITFIELD, LET ME INTERRUPT BECAUSE WHAT INFORMATION DID YOU SAY I ADDED?

>> IT IS NOTED, IT STAYS IN YOUR WHAT WAS REQUESTED.IF YOU READ IT YOU WILL SEE WHO ASKED WHAT, WHO ADDED THINGS, WHO ASKEDTO UPDATE IT . THE ATTORNEY.

THAT'S ANOTHER REASON WHY WE NEED TO GO AND REVISIT THAT. I'M GLAD YOU ASKED THAT QUESTION THAT WE NEED TO POSTPONE THIS. WITH THAT SAID, PER THAT MEETING THAT RECORDED ME BECAUSE A LOT OF THIS INFORMATION WAS MALICIOUS AND INTENT TO CONTROL THE BOARD WE DID GO IN AND REQUEST FOR A LOT OF THE INFORMATION TO BE REMOVED. WHEN WE RECEIVED THE EMAIL IT SHOWS THAT NONE OF THAT WAS REMOVED AND NOT ONLY WAS NONE OF THE INFORMATION REMOVED MORE INFORMATION WAS ADDED TO THE SAME ITEM THAT WAS STATED THAT WAS INTENDED TO BE MALICIOUS AND TO CONTROL THE BOARD.

AGAIN, I AM GOING TO ASK IF WE CAN TABLE THIS SO WE HAVE ANOTHER MEETING TO GO OVER THE NEW ITEMS AS A BOARD, AS A DISCUSSION. AS A BOARD AND MAYBE EVEN A WORKSHOP SO WE CAN GET THIS CLARIFIED OR WE JUST DO AWAY WITH THIS ALTOGETHER.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION. MY QUESTION IS TONIGHT IS MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT TONIGHT WE ARE HERE TO GO THROUGH ALL THE INFORMATION THAT WAS COMPILED AND AS A BOARD SIT HERE AND DECIDE WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO LEAVE AND WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO STRIKE OR ADD.

THE NEXT PROCESS WOULD BRING THIS TO A REGULAR BOARD MEETING TO ACTUALLY VOTE TO MOVE ON WHAT WE DECIDE ON OR TO FAIL IT.THAT'S WHY WE ARE HERE TONIGHT, AM I CORRECT?

>> YES, MA'AM. YOU ARE CORRECT. I WANT TO SAY TO THE BOARD AND THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS THAT ARE HERE. THIS IS EXTENSIVE.

I'M NOT SAYING ANY FEEDBACK I' , -- WE ALREADY WENT THROUGH FIVE DAYS.

MS. HAMILTON, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THIS DOCUMENT TOGETHERACCORDING TO LAW.

I HAD NO INPUT NOR DID I GIVE ANY INPUT . THANK YOU FOR YOUR PARALEGAL TO LISTEN TO THE TAPES AND PUTTING THIS IN A WAY THAT WE ALL COULD COME AROUND THE TABLE AND HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THIS DOCUMENT SENT IN QUESTIONS, CONCERNS, SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD. THIS IS ALMOST A YEAR LATE. WE HAVE SPENT EXTENSIVE TIME GOING OVER THIS, ARGUING BACK AND FORTH WITH IT, AND THIS IS NOT ABOUT US, THIS IS NOT ABOUT EACH ONE OF THESE BOARD MEMBERS. THIS IS ABOUT HAVING SOME OF PROCEDURES IN PLACE IN ORDER FOR US TO MOVEFORWARD , OPERATE AS A BOARD, WE DON'T HAVE TO LIKE EACH OTHER, WE DON'T. BUT WHEN WE ARE SITTING ON THIS DAY AS WE ARE AS ONE.

IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT DISTRICT I AM IN OR WHAT DISTRICT THE PRESIDENT OR ANY OTHER BOARD NUMBERS ARE IN WE ARE IN ONE OF THE YEAR FOR ONE PURPOSE. WE ARE HERE TO BE IN ACCORDANCE TO WORK FOR THE STUDENTS OF THIS DISTRICT. AND IN ORDER TO WORK FOR THE STUDENTS IN THIS DISTRICT AS THE HEAD AND THE ELECTED OFFICIALS AS THE BOARD OUR ADMINISTRATION AND OUR STAFF WE NEED TO BE TOGETHER. AND IF WE CAN'T GET OUR OPERATING GUIDELINES TOGETHER IT'S JUST A DOCUMENT STATING POLICY, AM I CORRECT? OKAY, SO DID ANYONE CALL YOU WITH CONCERNS OR QUESTIONS? WE ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE NO SPECIAL MEETING WE ALREADY DONE HAD WORKSHOPS OVER THIS. THIS HAS GOTTEN TO THIS POINT.

NOW, I DON'T THINK THAT LAST DECISION. IF THE BOARD AS A WHOLE WANT TO GO BACK INTO THOSE FIVE DAYS WE HAVE ALREADY DONE WITH THE BOARD MEMBERS THAT WERE NOT PRESENT TO GO THROUGH BACK AND FORTH SHOULD WE EVENHAVE IT OR SHOULD WE NOT HAVE IT ? GUESS WHAT TEA SAYS? IT'S A BEST PRACTICE.IF IT IS A BEST PRACTICE TO HAVE IT EVERY BOARD MEMBER SITTING ON THIS DAY IS AS AN OBLIGATION TO UNDERSTAND THE LEGAL POLICY.

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AND SO, WHEN YOU COME TO A MEETING WE ARE GOING TO ACT ACCORDINGLY.

NOW, THAT'S MY SUGGESTION AS A SHARE. I HAVE HEARD DEBATES, I HAVE HEARD WE DON'T NEED THESE WE DON'T NEED THAT, I HAVE SEEN AND EXPERIENCED MICROMANAGING FROM THE BOARD. WE DON'T DO THAT. THAT'S NOT IN OUR OPERATING PROCEDURE AND ITS AGAINST THE LEGAL POLICY. TO MICROMANAGE.

WE SHOULD HAVE PUT THAT IN HERE BUT I DID HAVE DRAFT ON HERE. THANK YOU MR. BRYANT FOR PUTTING DRAFT ON HERE. I WANT TO AGAIN THIS IS MY EXTENSIVE THAT EACH ONE OF US MADE BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY WE ARE GOING TO GETTHROUGH THIS WE ARE GOING TO PASS THIS AND GUESS WHAT HAPPENS AT THE END , EACH BOARD MEMBER CAN VOTE FOR A VOTE AGAINST IT BUT WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ON. I AM NOT FINISHED. AND I DID GIVE YOU THE FLOOR.

AND I'M NOT GOING TO GO BACK AND FORTH. I'M --TALK TO THE WHOLE BOARD DON'T TALK TO MS. MORRIS. TALK TO THE WHOLE BOARD BECAUSE IN TALKING TO THE WHOLE BOARD.

AND THIS IS NOT A DEBATE, IS NOT AN ARGUMENT AND IS NOT TARGETING ANYBODY BUT WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO READ AND UNDERSTAND AND MOVE FORWARD. NOW WE KNOW THIS HAS BEEN HANGING OUT HERE. WE TALKED ABOUT IT IN JANUARY, WE TALKED ABOUT IT IN FEBRUARY, WE TALKED ABOUT IT IN MARCH AND NOW IT'S APRIL AND I STAND TO BE CORRECTED WE TALKED ABOUT IT IN NOVEMBER, OCTOBER NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER. THAT'S A LOT OF MONTHS.

SO DO ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO SAY? ANY OTHER BOARD NUMBERS HAVE ANYTHING ELSE THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO INPUT OR THAT THEY DIDN'T UNDERSTAND I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO ASK OR DIRECT YOUR QUESTIONS TO THE BOARD ATTORNEY BECAUSE THEY LISTENED TO THE TAPE. THEY GOT ALL THE DIALOGUE THAT WENT ON THOSE FIVE DAYS.

AND THEY NOTE YOU SAID WHAT, WHO ASKED FOR WHAT. FOR SOMETHING YOU ASKED FOR AND IT'S NOT HERE LET US KNOW NOW THAT IT WAS OVERLOOKED OR WE NEED TO ADD IT AND THEY WILL GET WITH YOUR PARALEGAL AND INSERT IT IN BUT WHEN I CAN GO OUTSIDE WHAT THE POLICY SAYS.

EXCUSE ME, HOLD ON. MS. WHITFIELD, YOU ALREADY HAVE THE FLOOR.

NOW SEE, HOLD ON. LET ME SHARE THIS WITH YOU. EVERY BOARD MEMBER OUT HERE APPEARED HAS ARIGHT . MR. CLEWIS, WILL YOU FINISH. MS. WHITFIELD --.

>> YOU WANT TO SAY IT'S A LONG DAY. GO AHEAD, TRUSTEE CLEWIS.

>> I WILL MAKE THIS NOTE. THAT TONIGHT WAS TO HEAR MS. WHITFIELD'S GRIEVANCE AS WELL AS AN INTRODUCTION TO HYPHENATED. I SAID THAT RESPECTFULLY BECAUSE NONE OF THIS WAS WHAT I BUDGETED MY TIME FOR. IF WE COULD COME BACK AND GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO READ THIS IS NOT SOMETHING I WANT TO SIT HERE.

IT'S NOT GOING TO TAKE US AN HOUR IS GOING TO GUESS LONGER THAN AN HOUR.

SO IF WE COULD POSSIBLY RESCHEDULE TABLE IT FOR TODAY AND RESCHEDULE IT.

I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE FEELS THE SAME WAY BUT IF WE HAVE TO BE HERE PLEASE LET IT BE 11:59 PM.

>> THANK YOU, MR. CLEWIS. I WILL ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. THIS IS A DRAFT TO START.

THIS IS NOTHING TO VOTE ON. IT'S EXACTLY WHAT IT SAYS, HE DRAFT.

TO GIVE US TO PUT OUR THOUGHTS OUT THERE AND TO GET ANYTHING. NO, BOTH OF THESE NOTES ARE FOR SO YOU CAN PERHAPS AND I KNOW YOU ATTENDED MOST OF THE MEETINGS IF YOU CAN JUST LOOK

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THROUGH THERE AND SEE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU RECALL THAT YOU SAID OR MAY NEED TO BE CHANGED BECAUSE IT GOES BACK TO BEST STONE BECAUSE WE ARE PAYING THEM AND REPAYING THEM TO DO THIS. AND WE DON'T WANT THIS TO END UP IN ANOTHER WEEK FOR ANOTHER WEEK TO BE DISCUSSING, ANOTHER MONTH, ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE SUMMER.

BECAUSE OF POSSIBLY CAN HAPPEN. AND SO, NOW WE NEED TO TAKE AND BE ACCOUNTABLE FOR MOVING FORWARD ON THIS 13 PAGE DOCUMENT. AND SO, THAT'S ALL THIS IS IS A CONVERSATION TO GET STARTED. NOW, DID YOU SEE IT WHEN IT WAS FIRST SENT OUT? YOU DID NOT. AND SO, IT DIDN'T COME TO YOUR EMAIL?

X I WOULD NOT SAY IT DID NOT >> I WOULD NOT SAY DID NOT COME THROUGH BUT MY MIND THERE WERE TWO THINGS ONE WAS THE CONSERVATOR INTRODUCTION AND THE OTHER WAS THE GRIEVANCE. THERE WAS NOTHING IN MY MIND FOR AN EMAIL FROM MR. STEPHENS.

THE INDICATED THAT IT'S SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT IF THERE WERE ITEMS BEING PLACED ON THE AGENDA. RESPECTFULLY, I PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE LOOKED AT THAT BUT MY MIND TOLD ME WITH MY WORK SCHEDULE AND ALL THE OTHER THINGS I HAVE BROUGHT TO ME THAT THOSE WERE THE ONLY TWO THINGS THAT WERE ON THAT AGENDA. PERHAPS I SHOULD'VE LOOKED.

AGAIN, THOSE WERE NOT THE TWO THINGS I BUDGETED, THE TWO THINGS I BUDGETED MY TIME FOR WITH THE THINGS I SAID AND NOT FOR THIS HERE. I DIDN'T GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO THROUGH THIS DOCUMENT. I COULD SAY HERE AND READ MAYBE THE FIRST TWO OR THREE PAGES BUT IT SEEMS TO BE AN IMPORTANT DOCUMENT. I WOULD JUST ASK AGAIN IF WE COULD TABLE IT AND GIVE US ALL AN OPPORTUNITY TO READ THROUGH IT AND COME BACK AT A LATER DATE.

>> RESPECTFULLY, TRUSTEE CLEWI , WE ARE NOT GOING TO START THE RETAILING.

I AM SHARING WITH YOU IT'S A DRAFT. THIS IS THE BEGINNING AND IF YOU DIDN'T SEE IT IT WAS SENT OUT LAST WEEK. NOW YOU SAW MR. STEPHENS EMAIL WHICH THAT EMAIL WAS THE LAST WEEK BECAUSE HE THOUGHT I DID. NO, YOU DIDN'T.

I'M LETTING YOU KNOW I SAW THAT EMAIL. AS WELL.

BUT I WILL SHARE WITH YOU WITH RESPECT TO THE BOARD WE WANT TO BE ACCOUNTABLE AND PROACTIVE.

NOW, THE AGENDA AND PUTTING THIS ON IT IT IS NO HARM BECAUSE IT IS TIMELY SENT.

THERE'S NO HARM TO START THE DISCUSSION ON THE DRAFT. BECAUSE IF WE DON'T AT ONE POINT SAY WE ARE GOING TO START WE ARE GOING TO LOOK AT OUR INPUT AND SEE IF OUR INPUT IS CORRECT WE ARE GOING TO GIVE IT TO OUR ATTORNEY MR. STONE HAMLIN AND THEN MR. JONES AND HE WILL GO BACK TO HIS PARALEGAL AND THEN RESEARCH OR LISTEN TO THE TAPE.

THIS IS NOT THE FINAL. BUT WE WILL START TONIGHT. BUT WITH ALL DUE RESPECT I UNDERSTAND THAT. AT WHAT POINT, AT ONE POINT, WE HAVE TO THIS IS NOT AN OPTION.

THIS IS NOT AN OPTION, THIS IS NOT A GAME THIS IS A PAPER TO BE RESPECTFUL TO.

TO GET IT DONE AND WE MOVE ON. WE HOPE TO GET THIS FINISHED WE ONLY GOT TWO MORE BOARD NEEDS UNTIL SCHOOL IS OUT. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH I APPRECIATE THAT, MR. JONES.

>> THANK YOU, MADAME CHAIR.I KNOW WE HAVE THIS DOCUMENT BEFORE US AND WE SPENT 15 MINUTES ON PERSONAL COMMENTS. IF THE IDEA IS TO GO THROUGH THIS, CAN WE GET STARTED 2? WILL THAT BE MR. HAMLIN THINGS ARE YOU HANDLING?

>> IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS LET'S GET STARTED AND WE GET OUT HERE IN 10-15 MINUTES.

HOLD ON. PRESIDENT HAMILTON. LET ME SET SOME PARAMETERS HERE. EVERYBODY IS GOING TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.

EVERYBODY. MR. SMITH, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON THE DOCUMENT? ALL RIGHT, MS. WHITFIELD WE WILL COME BACK TO YOU.

>> ATTORNEY HAMLIN, MY QUESTION IS ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT WAS PLACED IN THIS DRAFT

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THAT WAS NOT IN THE RECORDING?

>> PRETTY MUCH THE ONLY ONE THAT I ADDED A SHORT DISCUSSION WITH PRESIDENT HAMILTON AND ATTEMPTED TO DO SOME OF THE STUFF AT PRIOR MEETINGS IT BEGINS ON PAGE I THINK IT'S THE FOURTH ONE IS THE BIG RED ONE. ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE. IF YOU LOOK THE PRE-EXISTING RULES OF ORDER FOR BOARD MEETINGS THAT'S IN BLUE. IN MY JUDGMENT, LOOKING AT IT AND TRY TO THINK OF HOW TO RUN MEETINGS THEIR HORTATORY BUT THEY DON'T TELL YOU MUCH ABOUT HOW TO RUN A MEETING. JUST SAY YOU SHOULD DO THIS, YOU SHOULD BE NICE TO EACH OTHER AND ALL THAT. THE LANGUAGE ON THE NEXT PAGE IS AN ATTEMPT TO RUN A MEETING.

TO SAY THAT HOW TO ADDRESS OPERATING OFFICER, NO INTERRUPTION, THE STUFF WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT ALL TONIGHT PUT IN ONE PLACE. WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO ENFORCE IT WITHOUT ANY ARTICULATION OF A POLICY. SO I WAS TRYING TO DO WAS TO WRITE IT DOWN IN A PLACE BUT WERE TRYING TO ENFORCE WITH THE OPERATING THE MEETINGS SO IT WILL BE THERE IN ONE SPACE. I WROTE THAT, QUITE FRANKLY, I WROTE IT SIGNIFICANTLY OUT OF ANOTHER FORD OPERATION PROCEDURE I WROTE FOR ANOTHER DISTRICT YEARS AGO.

SO IT'S NOT ANYTHING I HAVE INCLUDED THIS KIND OF LANGUAGE AND SEVERAL OF THESE BUT WHAT IS DIFFERENT IS THIS IS AN ATTEMPT TO BE SPECIFIC. I'M NOT TRYING TO CREATE ANY NEW PROCEDURES. I'M TRYING TO ARTICULATE THE OPERATING PROCEDURES THAT WE ARE OPERATING UNDER. IF YOU LOOK AT THE BLUE PART WHICH IS THE FIRST IT SAYS SOME OF THE SAME THINGS BUT IT'S NOT QUITE AS GRANULAR IN TERMS OF THE THING ABOUT SEEK RECOGNITION, DON'T DOMINATE DISCUSSION, THAT KIND OF STUFF IS IN THERE BUT THERE'S NO ARTICULATE STANDARD. WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS TRY TO REPLACE GENERALIZE AND LANGUAGE AND MAKE MORE SPECIFIC LANGUAGE SO WE CAN RUN A MEETING BY IT. IT'S NOT VASTLY DIFFERENT IS JUST MORE ARTICULATE.

>> I GUESS TO GO BACK TO MY INITIAL QUESTION. ITEMS IN BLUE THESE ARE BY YOU?

>> NO, IF YOU LOOK AT THE COPY I HAVE. THE ITEMS IN BLUE ARE THE PRE-EXISTING POLICY.

>> BUT, TO CONFIRM, THERE WERE QUITE A FEW INFORMATION THAT WAS PLACED IN THE GUIDELINES THAT WAS NOT IN THE RECORDING OR DISCUSSED DURING THE COMMITTEE MEETING?

>> YOU ASKED ME IF THIS THING ABOUT BOARD OPERATING PROCEDURES IS NOT RADICALLY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT'S IN THE POLICY. IT IS REWRITTEN TO BE MORE ARTICULATE IN TERMS OF THAT. I UNDERSTOOD MY PAST NOT TO MAKE POLICY TO ARTICULATED INTO A SPECIFIC DOCUMENT SO THERE WOULD BE LESS QUARRELING ABOUT IT.

NOT MY POLICY, IT IS YOU WALLS. ALL I'M TRYING TO DO IS BE MORE SPECIFIC SO THERE'S A PLACE TO LOOK AT IT WHEN THERE ARE DISPUTES SOMETHING TO REFERENCE.

>> WHAT I'M HEARING AT THIS MOMENT IS THERE HAS BEEN CHANGES OR ADDITIONS ADDED.

>> I AM GOING TO ASK YOU TO ALLOW MR. HAMLIN BECAUSE THERE ARE OTHER PEOPLE THAT ALSO SIT AROUND THIS DAIS THAT MAY HAVE A QUESTION. IF I WOULD REFER YOU TO MR. HAMLIN TO PAGE 12. THERE WAS A RECORDING ON PAGE 12.

>> SORRY, I WAS NOT FINISHED WITH MY QUESTION.

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>> YES, I AM LOOKING AT IT.

>> SINCE THIS IS JUST A DISCUSSION I'M GOING TO DISMISS MYSELF.

>> MS. MORRIS, CAN WE GO AHEAD AND START ARE GOING TO START WITH PAGE 1?

>> LET'S GO AHEAD AND START WITH PAGE 1. IF EVERYONE COULD JUST LOOK AT THE COMMENTS AND THEN IN A RED WHAT IS SUGGESTED BY THE ATTORNEY. REMEMBER THAT THE BLUE IS WHAT WAS ALREADY IN THE POLICY WHICH WE ALL HAD THE OPPORTUNITY FROM LAST YEAR TO LOOK AT.

AND THE RED IS SUGGESTIONS FROM MR. HAMLIN'S OFFICE. IT'S NOT MUCH READING.

>> ON THE FIRST ONE THE BOARD MEMBERS ONLY DID WAS MR. STEVENSON WANTED TO GET RID OF WHAT IS INSULTING TO BOARD MEMBERS THAT SAID IT'S SOMETHING HE WANTED TO DO AWAY WITH THE ETHICS PAGE. THERE WAS A SUGGESTION WAS MADE TO REQUIRE THAT THE ETHICS PAGE BE PASSED OUT ANNUALLY. WHAT I DID WAS IS A CHANGE THAT SUGGESTION AND SPECIFICALLY SAID WHEN ANNUALLY IT WOULD BE AS A SUPPOSED TO ANNUALLY AT THE FIRST MEETING WITH OFFICERS ELECTED BECAUSE THAT FISH THIS ACCIDENT. ONLY ALL I DID WAS CHANGE THE FACT THAT WAS THE PAST SO I TIED THE MESSAGE TO A SPECIFIC DATE.

WHICH STATE LAW SAYS BOARD MEMBERS OFFICERS FIRST MEETING AFTER ELECTION FIRST MEETING MAY THEY HAVE TO PASS OF THE ETHICS. PRIOR DRAFT VERSION DID NOT HAVE A DATE THAT'S ALL.

>>.

IF YOU EXPLAINED EARLIER ABOUT THE BLUE IS WHAT WAS THERE.

>> THERE WAS ONE OTHER THING ON THAT THERE WAS A RECOMMENDATION TO GET RID OF THE DISTRICT ETHICS POLICY IT IS NOT A STATE LAW REQUIREMENT IT'S A BPF LOCAL IS A DRAFT THAT THE TRUSTEES STATEMENT OF ETHICS MR. STEVENSON WANTED TO GET RID OF IT.

MR. CLEWIS WANTED TO KEEP IT. I PUT A NOTE DOWN THAT THAT WAS UNRESOLVED.

>> THANK YOU FOR THAT. NOW WE DO KNOW THAT WITH EVERY ELECTED OFFICIAL ABOUT ETHICS CODE TO ANY OF THE BOARD MEMBERS HAVE ANY COMMENT TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT.

>> MADAM CHAIR, MAY I RECOMMEND WE GO TO THE DOCUMENT AND IF WE HAVE QUESTIONS WE CAN STOP AND IDENTIFY IF WE WANT TO MAKE CHANGES RATHER THAN GOING THROUGH EVERY ITEM IN YOU POSING A QUESTION TO MAXIMIZE TIME?

>> WE CAN DO THAT BUT ALSO IF WE DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS THIS IS ONLY ABOUT THE ETHICS QUESTIONS YES, SIR NO SO WE DON'T HAVE TO GO BACK OVER AGAIN.

NOTES COULD BE WRITTEN. THAT'S WHY ASKED IF EVERYONE IS OKAY.

SO WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT PAGE.

>> THE NEXT ONE WHICH WE TALKED ABOUT SOME WASRULES OF ORDER FOR BOARD MEETINGS IN BLUE IS EXISTING OUT OF THE LANGUAGE . IN MYOPINION , IT'S NOT VERY SPECIFIC WITH RESPECT TO THE INSTRUCTIONS ABOUT HOW TO RUN A MEETING. I TRIED TO INCORPORATE ALL OF THOSE CONCEPTS AND DELINEATE THEM MORE A LITTLE BIT IN TERMS OF OPERATING POLICIES I WAS NOT TRYING TO CHANGE THE POLICY ON HOW THE MEETINGS ARE RUN I JUST WANTED TO LAY OUT IN A LITTLE MORE SEQUENCED ORDER. BY THE WAY, I PUT A BUNCH OF BULLETS IN THIS IN THE FINAL

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DRAFT WILL PUT I DON'T HAVE THE FINAL DRAFT WE COULD DO THE NUMBER SEQUENCE ONCE WE GET TO THE FINAL DRAFT. THERE WILL BE SUBSECTION ON HOW TO ASSIGN THEM AT THIS POINT.

>> MR. HAMLIN, I AM LOOKING WHAT YOU INSERTED IN RED. THE ONLY THING OF AN ISSUE WITH IS THE USE OF ELECTRONIC DEVICES PROHIBITED. BECAUSE I HAVE CHILDREN SUCH AS MYSELF WE ARE FINE WE ARE ALL RESPONSIBLE ADULTS ARE IMPORTERS SHOULD NOT BE COMMUNICATING WITH EACH OTHER ON THE DAIS USING THEIR CELL PHONES OR ANY OUTSIDE COMMUNICATIONS WITH INDIVIDUALS ABOUT THE BOARD MEETING. I DO UNDERSTAND WHY YOU PLACED A HERE BECAUSE WE DO KNOW THE INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE OUTSIDE CONNECTIONS FROM OUR DAIS BASED ON RECORDINGS WE ACTUALLY HEARD WHEN THE MICROPHONE WAS ON IN THE DAIS.

I THINK I WOULD LIKE TO JUST DELINEATE THAT BECAUSE EVERYONE SHOULD BE RESPONSIBLE AND JUST SO AS IT HAS BEEN STATED WE ARE TRYING TO CONTROL INDIVIDUALS BUT IT'S SOMETHING THINGS SHOULD NOT HAVE TO BE SAID.

>> YOUR PROPOSAL WOULD BE TO DELETE THE LAST BULLET?

>> I WOULD PROBABLY PUT IN THERE IF THERE'S AN EMERGENCY STEP AWAY FROM THE DAIS TO USE THE PHONE. I WILL PUT SOMETHING IN THERE LIKE BOARDROOMS SHOULD NOT BE COMMUNICATING WITH OTHER BOARD MEMBERS IN REFERENCE TO THE BOARD MEETING FROM THE DAIS OR EXTERNAL OUTSIDE OF THE MEETING. I KNOW SHE USES HERSELF ONTO COMMUNICATION WITH HER STAFF THAT ARE SITTING HERE IN THE ROOM WHEN SHE DID SOMETHING OR SHE'S UP TO BRING HER SOMETHING. WE ARE ALL ADULTS HERE THIS REALLY SHOULDN'T EVEN HAVE TO BE A CONVERSATION BUT AS WE KNOW THINGS HAVE HAPPENED.

>>.

KEEP IT MY PHONE WHERE I SEE IT.

>> BUT I'M NOT USING IT FOR BOARD BUSINESS USING IT FOR PERSONAL BUSINESS, SO THAT IS FINE.

>> WHAT IS YOUR RECOMMENDATION TO PUT HERE?

>> MY RECOMMENDATION IS TO PUT SOME VERBIAGE THAT BOARD MEMBERS TO USE THEIR PHONES TO CAN INDICATE WITH OTHER BOARD MEMBERS ABOUT THE BOARD MEETING OR EXTERNAL COMMUNICATIONS ABOUT THE BOARD MEETING DURING THE BOARD MEETING.

>>.

ARE COMMUNICATING TO OTHER BOARD MEMBERS ON THAT PHONE THAT COULD LOOK LIKE HOLY IT COULD LOOK LIKE SOMETHING ELSE SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD IDENTIFY THAT OTHER BOARD MEMBERS, PERIOD, SHOULD NOT DO ANYTHING AND MR. HAMLIN YOU CAN WORD IT ACCORDING TO THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT HOWEVER YOU THINK WOULD BE THE RIGHT WAY BUT COMMUNICATING WITH BOARD MEMBERS THROUGH ELECTRONICS THAN THE PUBLIC CANNOT HEAR, THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT IS BEING SAID SO IT COULD BE AND THE IMPRESSION YOU COULD BE PULLING THE BOARD EARLY TO BE DOING OTHER THINGS.

>> HOW ABOUT USE OF ELECTRONIC DEVICES ARE PROHIBITED FOR TRUSTEE TO TRUSTEE COMMUNICATION FOR RECEIVING INPUT DURING THE COURSE OF A MEETING ABOUT TOPICS UNDER DISCUSSION.

>> I LIKE THAT BUT IS THERE ANY WAY YOU CAN NOTATE WHERE THAT WILL BE FOUND IN THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT? BECAUSE WHEN BOARD MEMBERS JUST LIKE IF YOU ARE ON THE PHONE AND YOU CALL ME AND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT WELL WE HAVE THIS ON THE AGENDA TODAY WHAT YOU THINK, HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT I , CAN I GET YOUR SUPPORT? THAT'S KIND OF POLLING.

IN SORT OF THE SAME THING.

>> I FIND THAT REFERENCE IF YOU WANT.

>> IS THAT OKAY?

>> ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? I'M SORRY MS. MORRIS, IT'S NOT MY FLOOR.

>> MADAM CHAIR, AS IT RELATES TO THAT PARTICULAR ITEM I REALLY DON'T THINK IT'S NECESSARY TO HAVE AN OPERATING PROCEDURES. IF YOU GO BACK TO OUR ETHICS AND FALLS ALIGNMENT WITH THE STATEMENTS IN THERE ABOUT I WILL CONSISTENTLY UPHOLD ALL

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APPLICABLE LAWS, RULES AND POLICIES AND GOVERNMENT PROCEDURES SO WILL BE ADDED INTERESTED THEY SHOULD BE AWARE AND THEN WE CAN HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE WHICH IS WITHIN OUR ETHICS POLICY. FOR OUR ETHICS STATEMENT WHICH IS ON THE PREVIOUS PAGE WHICH WE JUST DISCUSSED. I THINK SOME OF THESE ARE GETTING REALLY GRANULAR AND MAY NOT BE NECESSARY. BUT IN THE EVENT YOU GUYS WANT TO LEAVE THEM IN HERE WE DEFINITELY CAN BECAUSE NEXT TIME WE REVIEW OPERATING PROCEDURES WHAT IS FOR ITS ELECTRONIC DEVICE B. YOU KNOW AS PRESIDENT HAMILTON STATED IF SOMETHING HAPPENS WITH HER FAMILY WE WILL HAVE TO STEP OUT.

>> AND THANK YOU SO MUCH MR. JONES. I AGREED TO A CERTAIN EXTENT BUT AS A REMINDER AND WE DO HAVE A BOARD MEMBERS COMING ON IT JUST A REFRESHER.

>> IT'S GOING TO BE US FOR THE NEXT THREE YEARS.

>> BUT NEVERTHELESS, JUST FOR EVEN SEASON BOARD MEMBERS TO GO BACK AND REFRESH SO JUST LITTLE THINGS JUST A REMINDER AND WE CAN GO BACK AND LOOK AT IT AND REVIEW IT.

WE SHOULD ANNUALLY EVERY YEAR.

>> IS WERE GOING TO THIS AND MAKING OUR RECOMMENDATIONS WITH A BE A NEW DOCUMENT THAT COMES OUT WHICH WILL HAVE WHAT I SAID, WITH MR. HAMLIN SAID, WHAT YOU SAID? IS THAT THE PLAN?

>> EVERYTHING IS RECORDED.

>> THE SESSIONS WHERE THERE IS SOME DISAGREEMENT I WILL GO BACK AND PUT THEM IN A COLOR OR SOMETHING WHERE YOU CAN SEE SO YOU CAN SPOT IT.

>> THE REASON I SAID IS BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO DEBATE BACK AND FORTH WHAT YOU AGREE WITH I AGREE WITH.

>> I WILL DRAFT THE LANGUAGE AND IF YOU DON'T WANT TO JUST DELETE.

THE LAST BULLET WITH RESPECT TO THAT POLICY IS PROCEDURAL MOTIONS AND THERE IS ONE KIND OF CONFLICT THAT YOUR DISCUSSIONS HAVE INDICATED AN INTENT FOR THE SIMPLE MAJORITY TO CALL THE QUESTION, ROBERTS RULES SAYS TWO THIRDS. YOU ARE NOT, YOU ARE BOUND TO ROBERTS RULES BUT YOU CAN OVERRIDE THEM WITH SPECIFIC INTENT.

I NEED TO KNOW WHAT IT TAKES TO CALL A QUESTION. EITHER A SIMPLE MAJORITY OR TWO THIRDS.

>> THAT WHEN I AGREE ON BECAUSE I THINK IF I RECALL I CALL A QUESTION.

QUITE A BIT. LET'S HEAR SOME FEEDBACK ON THAT.

>> TWO THIRDS IS ROBERTS RULES OF ORDER.

>> SO THAT'S ORGAN TO GO BY SO WHEN A QUESTION IS CALLED WE STOP.

THAT WHAT IS SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN.

>> WHEN A QUESTION IS CALLED IS ACTUALLY A MOTION. IT REQUIRES A SECOND AND IT TAKES TWO THIRDS MAJORITY TO CALL THE QUESTION WHICH IS WHEN EVERYBODY IS HERE FIVE VOTES.

SIMPLE MAJORITY IS FOR VOTES. WHEN EVERYBODY IS HERE. ROBERTS SAYS TWO THIRDS BUT YOU'RE NOT BOUND BY ROBERTS. THE ONLY REASON YOU BOUND BY ROBERTS IS YOU HAVE ADOPTED IT.

YOUR CHOICE.

>> IF I WAS NOT CLEAR THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT WHEN A QUESTION IS CALLED THEN YOU STOP AND GET A SECOND AND IT DIES WITH A SECOND BUT THE DEBATE HAS TO STOP.

>> YES, CALL A QUESTION IS A PRIVILEGE.

>> MS. MORRIS, MY COMMENT WILL BE I UNDERSTAND TWO THIRDS WOULD BE FIVE VOTES I THINK A BIG. IF WE DO THE SIMPLE WITH FOUR BECAUSE SOMETIMES OR SHORTLY BOARD MEMBER. THAT'S JUST MY SUGGESTION.

>> IF THERE IS ONLY SIX TWO THIRDS IS FOR. MAJORITY OR TWO THIRDS?

>> TWO THIRDS.

>> ALL RIGHT, THAT IS HOW THE LANGUAGE IS DRAFTED.HE NEXT IS A SERIES OF THINGS WITH RESPECT TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE AGENDA. AND YOUR OLD OPERATING POLICY

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THERE IS LANGUAGE WITH RESPECT TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE AGENDA BUT THERE IS ALSO INFORMATION ABOUT HOW THE SENTENCES ARE SET AND BE LOCAL. VE LOCAL YOU CAN DISAGREE BUT YOU HAVE TO BE SHOULD ONLY BE ONE PLACE. IN MY OPINION, JUST KIND OF LOOKING AT THIS BOARD OPERATING PROCEDURES OR BOARD TO BOARD AGENDA SETTING IS BOARDED TO SUPERINTENDENT SO THAT'S MORE LIKELY TO BE POSTED POLICY. I DRAFTED THERE IS AN ATTACHMENT BEHIND THIS POTENTIAL MODIFICATION TO BE LOCAL.

IF WE, IF YOU ACCEPT MY RECOMMENDATION ON THAT THAT ONLY BE IN ONE PLACE WE WENT TO DELETE THE SECTION ABOUT THE BOARD AGENDA. IN THE BOARD OPERATING PROCEDURE AND JUST GO ON AND BE LOCAL. IF THAT IS THE CASE THEN BE LOCAL HAS THE 100 DOLLARS QUESTION THERE WAS SOME DISPUTE ABOUT, HOW MANY PEOPLE DOES IT TAKE TO GET AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA? THERE IS NO CONSENSUS ON THIS AT THE STATE SOME HAVE ONE, SOME HAVE TWO, SOME HAVE THREE. IN THE STATE, IT IS STRICTLY A MATTER OF BOARD POLICY. SO THAT'S QUESTION ONE.

>> CAN ADDRESS QUESTION ONE BEFORE HE MOVED TO? WOULD IT NOT BE POLLING OR BORDERLINE POLLING IF I WANTED SOMETHING I AGENDA AND I REACHED OUT TO MR. JONES PERHAPS HE SAID NO AND I WENT TO THIS MORRIS.

>> THAT'S A REALLY GOOD QUESTION BUT IT HAS AN ANSWER. THE ANSWER IS, IT NEVER VIOLATES THE PUBLIC MEETINGS ACT TO DISCUSS THE AGENDA ITSELF.

THE TIMING OF THE AGENDA OR ITEMS TO BE PLACED ON THE AGENDA.

AS LONG AS YOU DON'T GET INTO ARGUMENTS BACK-AND-FORTH ABOUT WHAT THE ITEM SHOULD BE AS LONG AS LET'S CONSIDER THIS AT THE THEN THAT DOES NOT VIOLATE IT. THERE ARE OPINIONS ON IT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME. THE BOARD PRESIDENT CAN'T DO THEIR JOB WHICH IS TO FOR SPECIAL MEETINGS FIVE AVAILABLE MEETING DATES TO GET THE MOST PEOPLE PRESENT WITHOUT CALLING AROUND AND ASKING WHO IS AVAILABLE AND WHO IS IT.NO, THAT'S OKAY AS LONG AS YOU DON'T GO INTO TRADING VOTES AND SAY HOW YOU SHOULD VOTE.

>> MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE ONE.

>> YOUR RECOGNITION WOULD BE ONE.

>> IT ONLY REQUIRES MYSELF TO HAVE THAT PARTICULAR ITEM PLACED ON THEAGENDA .

IT DOESN'T REQUIRE A SECOND.

>> MR. HALE AND HAMLIN, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A STATEMENT BECAUSE AT 7:30 PM.

WOULD YOU ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS LIKE TO SET AHARD STOP TIME ?

>> MADAM CHAIR, I WOULD LIKE THAT. 7:35 PM?

>> SECOND.

>> SO YOU DON'T WANT TO DO THIS AT ALL? BECAUSE I AM SERIOUS YOU ALL.

BUT PLEASE, HOW ABOUT 8:30 PM, HARD STOP.

>> AS RELATES TO DESIGN THE BOARD POLICY LIMITED TO OPERATIVE PROCEDURES AND GETTING BOARD BEING THIS PARTICULAR LANGUAGE AND IS BEEN OPERATIVE PROCEDURES AND ACTRESS POLICY. WE DO THIS INITIALLY BACK IN THE DAY THAT OPERATIVE PROCEDURES OR GUIDELINES AS AN ONBOARDING DOCUMENT FOR TRUSTEES MAY NOT BE FAMILIAR OR HAVE ACCESS TO SO THE INFORMATION IN THIS DOCUMENT WERE LOOKING AT THEIR CANDIDACY WAS SEE HOW WE CONDUCT OUR BUSINESS. THIS IS ONE WAY WE CAN PRESENT TO THEM SO I RECOMMEND WE TAKE THE PORTIONS OF THE LOCAL AND PLACE OF OUR OPERATING GUIDELINES.

>> RUSTY JONES TRUSTEE JONES, THAT'S WHAT I WAS REFERRING THAT A COUPLE OF PAGES BACK TO.

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AS ALWAYS SINCE IN BLACK AND WHITE.

>> THE LAWYER IN ME SAYS THIS, IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT THEN MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD TO BE YOU LITERALLY COPY THE LOCAL INTO THE OPERATIVE PROCEDURES. THAT WAY THERE'S NO CONFLICT.

>> I AGREE. THAT WAS A RECOMMENDATION OF MINE, AS WELL.

>> WHATEVER THE LOCAL COMES BACK THAT WILL BE DUPLICATED AS THAT SECTION AND EVERY TIME WE MODIFY IT WE MODIFY THE OPERATIVE PROCEDURES. THAT SHOULDN'T BE A PROBLEM.

>> MADAM CHAIR, I AGREE WITH THAT ALSO. BUT THE UNFORTUNATE PART IS IT'S IN OUR BOARD OPERATING PROCEDURES INSTEAD OF OUR FOLLOW UP TO DATE SO I DON'T WANT TO PUT IT AND TO BE RECEIVED.

>> I WILL LITERALLY LABEL IT SDE LOCAL. IT WILL BE IN THE SAME SECTION WHERE IT IS NOW BUT THE BOARD POLICY VE LOCAL WITH RESPECT TO THE AGENDA AS FOLLOWS.

THERE'S ONE OTHER ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM WITH RESPECT TO THIS AND THAT'S GOES TO WHAT I HAVE CALLED OVER THE YEARS THE ONE SKIP RULES. IF YOU GO DOWN TO AGENDA PREPARATION THE SECOND FULL PARAGRAPH NOT IN BLUE IT SAYS THE BOARD PRESIDENT SHALL ENSURE THAT ANY CONFLICTS THAT TO BOARD MEMBERS AND THAT WILL CHANGE IF YOU GO TO ONE HAVE REQUESTED TO BE ADDRESSED ARE EITHER ON THAT AGENDA WERE SCHEDULED FOR DELIBERATION AT AN APPROPRIATE TIME IN THE NEAR FUTURE. THIS IS TEA STATED BY WHICH IT IS CREATED WHAT I INTEND TO CALL SO THE BOARD PRESIDENT CANNOT ORGANIZE THE MEETINGS AND MANAGE THE TIME BUT NOT BECOME TYRANTS OVER AGENDAS. WHAT I CALL THE ONE SKIP RULE SO IF YOU GET A REQUEST YOU DON'T HAVE TO PUT IT ON THAT'S HOW I'VE INTERPRETED THIS LANGUAGE OVER THE YEARS FOR ALL MY CLIENTS BECAUSE IT ALWAYS COMES UP.

IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THAT WAY. YOU CAN HAVE IT TO WHERE YOU GOT TO PUT IT ON BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT THE POLICY SAYS. I JUST WANT TO HAVE THAT ADDRESSED FROM THE OTHER SO WE DON'T KEEP HAVING THAT OVER AND AGAIN. THE QUESTION SO WE NEED TO ADDRESS THAT IN TERMS OF HOW WE MANAGE THE AGENDA. THE WAY I HAVE INTERPRETED IT IS THAT THE NEAR FUTURE IF YOU SKIP A MEETING IT'S THE NEXT MEETING IS THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING. THAT CANNOT BE LONGER THAN THAT.

THAT'S HOW I HAVE INTERPRETED THAT IN THE PAST. IF YOU THINK THAT IS TOO MUCH FOR THE PRESIDENT THEN TAKE IT OUT BUT IT'S IN THEIR AND IT HAS TO MEAN SOMETHING.

THAT'S HOW WE HAVE INTERPRETED THAT.

>> MADAM CHAIR, MAY I? THIS PARTICULAR ITEM DO YOU SUGGEST WE ALTER THIS LANGUAGE TO GIVE US THE ONE SKIP RULE?

>> YOU ADDRESS THAT QUESTION WITH THE BOARD PRESIDENT SUPPORT WHETHER YOU BELIEVE IT OR DON'T WE STILL NEED GUIDANCE ON IT.

>> WITH THAT BEING SAID, IF THERE IS AN ITEM AS PRESENTED WITH TWO PEOPLE WHERE IT CURRENTLY STANDS DO WE ADD TO THE NEXT FUTURE AGENDA FOR NEXT AGENDA, HOWEVER, BOARD PRESIDENT AND SUPERINTENDENT WILL THEN COMMUNICATE WITH THAT INDIVIDUAL AND WILL BE IN THE FOLLOWING MEETING, IS ACCURATE AS OUR RATES?

>> THAT'S NOT HOW IT READS THAT WAS BETTER READING OF. DID YOU SAY TWO OR ONE?

>> THE WAY IT CURRENTLY READS IT IS TOO.

>> RIGHT, IT IS ONE OF THE PRESIDENT HAS TO NOTIFY THE INDIVIDUAL THAT THEY ARE EXERCISING A PREROGATIVE TO PUT IT ON THE NEXT MEETING. IT DOESN'T SAY THAT IT IMPLIES THAT BUT IT DOESN'T SAY IT. SO THAT IS BETTER.

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>> IF WE SPECIFY THE ONE SKIP ROLE THAT WE NEED TO SPECIFY THAT IN A WAY SO THERE'S NO

CONFUSION. >> PRESIDENT MUST NOTIFY.

AND ONE SKIP WILL ARTICULATE FOR THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING.

>> NOW, I HAVE A CONCERN WITH THAT. IT'S BECAUSE IF WE DO ONE PERSON EVEN IF WE DO TWO FROM PAST EXPERIENCE THE INDIVIDUALS THAT'S PLACING IT ON THE AGENDA NEED TO GIVE BACK UP AND SUPPORTING DOCUMENTATION TO WHAT THEY ARE REQUESTING TO PUT ON THE AGENDA. AND, PRIME EXAMPLE, INDIVIDUALS MAY NOT HAVEN'T SEEN THIS AGENDA TONIGHT WITH THIS BACKUP BUT THE BACKUP WASN'T THERE. AND SO, EACH BOARD MEMBER WILL POLICE THEMSELVES TO REVIEW TRUSTEE CLEWIS REQUESTED WHEN AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA BUT ALSO BE ABLE TO SEE AND REVIEW THE SUPPORTING DOCUMENTATION FOR THE BACK THAT IS REFERENCED THE POLICY OR REFERENCING ANYTHING THAT THE BOARD HAS CONTROL OF OTHER THAN MICROMANAGING.

>> ONE WAY TO DO THAT WOULD BE TO BECAUSE WHENEVER THERE'S AN ITEM THERE'S A SEPARATE RULE IN THE EDUCATION CODE THIS IS A SUPERINTENDENT HAS THE RIGHT TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON EVERY ITEM ON THE AGENDA. ONE WAY TO DO THAT AND TO ALLOW THE PREPARATION MATERIALS COULD BE TO HAVE A SOMEWHAT EARLIER FILING OR BOARD INITIATED ITEMS NOT MONTHS BUT INSTEAD OF THIS IS SIX DAYS MAKE IT TWO WEEKS. SO THE AGENDA STUFF THAT WOULD BE ONE WAY TO HANDLE IT.

IF THAT WAS ACCEPTABLE. OR, IT'S A BIT UNREASONABLE, FOR EXAMPLE, IF THE BOARD WANTED A TRUSTEE WANTED TO START A RUGBY TEAM AND THEY WANTED TO EXPAND, START A RUGBY PROGRAM IN THE DISTRICT, THE SUPERINTENDENT THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE TO COMPILE ALL THE DATA ABOUT COST AND ALL THAT OTHER THING IN TERMS OF THAT THAT'S KIND OF ADMINISTRATIONS POINT OF VIEW TO DO THE ANALYSIS OF THAT AND COST AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION.

I DON'T WANT TO GET TO MAKE THE TRUSTEES ACTUALLY HAVE TO PREPARE THE ITEMS. ALL THE BACKUP FOR THAT WHICH IS KIND OF A STAFF FUNCTION. YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO POLICY FOR BE PART OF THE ADMINISTRATION. IT IS REASONABLE TO EXPECT TO GIVE THE ADMINISTRATION SOME TIME IF A RECOMMENDATION, POLICY RECOMMENDATION, COMES UP TO THE ANALYTICS TO PREPARE FOR IT. THE REASONABLE MINDS CAN DO DIFFER ON WHAT THAT AMOUNT OF TIME IS.

>> I DON'T HAVE A VOTE ON THIS BUT WANTED TO SHARE WHAT I HAVE SEEN IN PAST EXPERIENCES WITH AGENDA ITEMS IS THAT THEY ARE PART OF BOARD MATTERS IN EACH BOARD MEETING AND THAT WAY YOU ARE NOT FUMBLING THROUGH EMAILS I'M JUST GONNA BE HONEST I CAN'T SEE ANY EMAIL THAT COMES THROUGH. IF I SEE AN EMAIL BUT AGENDA ITEM SIX.

THE AMOUNT OF TIME YOU NEED TO GET PREPARED. WHAT I'M SAYING IS WHAT I'VE SEEN IN THE PAST AND JUST A SUGGESTION AND A SHARE OF THE BOARD OF SPRING ITEMS THEY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE ON FUTURE AGENDAS AS PART OF BOARD MATTERS WE DISCUSSED THAT AND VOTE AS TO WHEN AND WHERE. SOMETIMES THOSE THINGS ARE ALREADY COMING UP ON OUR OWN AGENDAS AS THE DISTRICT AND WE WILL REPORT THOSE THINGS. CASE IN POINT, WE DISCUSSED DISCIPLINE ON BUSES WE DO HAVE A TIMEFRAME EVERY YEAR THAT WE BRING INFORMATION TO THE BOARD

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SO TO RANDOM ITEMS LIKE THAT SOMETIMES THERE'S A SIMPLE RESPONSE AS TO WHEN AND WHERE THAT INFORMATION WILL COME FRO . JUST A SUGGESTION WHAT I'VE SEEN IN THE PAST HAS WORKED WELL WITHOUT RANDOM EMAILS OR CALLS OR TEXTS ABOUT WHETHER THIS IS ON THE AGENDA WERE NOT. AND THEN ALSO HELPS GET THE INDIVIDUALS MIND AS TO WHAT THEY WANT AS WELL. AGAIN, A SUGGESTION JUST WANTED TO SHARE.

>> MADAM CHAIR.

>> TRUSTEE CLEWIS.

>> IF I COULD TAKE A STEP BACK AND STRIKE THE ONE PERSON FOR THE AGENDA REQUEST.

ITEM TO BE PLACED ON THE AGENDA. I HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND THE CURRENT CLIMATE WE ARE IN RIGHT NOW WITH HOW THAT COULD POSSIBLY FLOOD ITEMS THAT ARE BEING PLACED ON THE AGENDA. SO, IF I COULD STRIKE THE ONE I THINK TO MAKE FOR SEX.

>> OKAY SO, IF WE GO WITH TWO THAT HELPS ADMINISTRATION OUT A LITTLE BIT.

BUT THE NEXT TRIGGER IS SIX DAYS BEFORE THE MEETING HOW ABOUT 10?

>> 10 DAYS BEFORE THE MEETING?

>> THAT'S A LITTLE LONGER THE WAY THE ADMINISTRATION WORKS WITH STAFF WITH THE SUPERINTENDENT TO PUT ON THEIR USUALLY THE SUPPORTING DOCUMENT WHEN BOARD OF TRUSTEES INITIATE IT THEY USUALLY DON'T WHICH IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT YOU ALL ARE PAID STAFFERS AND THAT KIND OF STUFF BUT I TRIED TO PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO PULL AN AGENDA ITEM OR PUT IN AGENDA ITEM TOGETHER FOR THAT BUT WITH THAT BEING SAID YOU ALSO THE ONE SKIP RULE SO IF THAT GETS STAY THEN MAYBE IT COULD STAY SIX IF YOU CAN'T GET W TO THE ONE SKIP.

YOUR CHOICE.

>> TRUSTEE JONES.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO MAINTAIN THE SIX DAYS AND FOR RECOMMENDING SOMETHING TO BE ON THE AGENDA I WOULD HAVE THE DUE DILIGENCE ATTACK MIGHTSUPPORTING DOCUMENTS .

AND TO SUBMIT SO IT'S ON THERE FOR THE REST OF THE BOARD TO REVIEW.

THAT ALSO TIES INTO OUR COMMITTEES, AS WELL. COMMITTEE NOTES ARE PROVIDED PRIOR TO THE MEETING.

>> JUST AS A PRACTICAL MATTER BECAUSE NOT A REGULAR RECIPIENT ON THE CURRENT SCHEDULE ON THE THURSDAY MEETINGS WHEN IS THE BACKUP MATERIAL POSTED MADE AVAILABLE TO THE TRUSTEES?

>> 72 HOURS.

>> PART OF ME? SO, THREE DAYS. SO IF THERE IS A TRUSTEE REQUEST THREE, IF OUR TRUSTEE REQUEST IS SIX DAYS THE LAST THREE DAYS.

>> TRUSTEE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE THE INFORMATION A LOT SOONER. OUR POLICY SAYS SIX CALENDAR DAYS.

>> SIX DAYS BUT THREE OF THOSE DAYS IT HAS TO BE OUT THREE DAYS.

SO THAT GIVES STAFF THREE DAYS.

>> WHAT THEY ARE DOING IS UPLOADING WHAT WE ARE CITY TO THEM.

UPLOADING A PDF OR WORD DOCUMENT.

>> LIKE I SAID, IT'S ALWAYS, TO ME, IT'S BEEN UNREASONABLE TO ASK TRUSTEES TO DO ALL THE STAFF WORK WITH THE POLICY INITIATIVE YOU MAY HAVE. BUT YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO

GO RESEARCH. >> ANOTHER POINT OF THIS THIS WILL HAVE TO GO TO OUR POLICY COMMITTEE AS WELL CHANGING THE POLICY I THINK THAT CAN BE A DISCUSSION WE HAVE THE NET POLICY MEETING THE DIFFERENCES BE BROUGHT TO THE BODY THEREAFTER.

>> THE SIX DAYS AND THE ONE SKIP RULE ARTICULATED.

>> MR. HAMLIN I HAVE A QUESTION BECAUSE I DEFINITELY CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT TRUSTEE CLEWIS AND A TRUSTEE JONES IS SAYING BUT MY FOCUS WOULD BE MORE THAN EACH INDIVIDUAL ON THE BOARD CAN ALSO REQUEST AN ITEM THAT WILL BE A GENERAL ITEM BUT THEY CAN SUPPORT LIKE IF THERE IS SOMETHING NEEDING TO HAPPEN LIKE IF A BOARD MEMBER WHICH I THINK WE ALL OF THE BOARD

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MEMBERS SHOULD EITHER DO IT IN A GROUP OR SEPARATE WE SHOULD ME AT LEAST ONCE A YEAR OR TWICE 1/4 OR ONCE A YEAR BUT WE SHOULD HAVE A COMMUNITY MEETING WHETHER THIS MEETING IS JOINED WITH THE CITY OR HERE. THAT WOULD BE AN ITEM FOR MYSELF IF I SAY DISTRICT 6 AND DISTRICT 5 MAYBE WE IN CONJUNCTION, I'M SORRY, WHAT'S YOUR DISTRICT? OKAY SO, I'M GOING TO SAY SIX IS A WAY DOWN BY THE VALLEY AND HIM DOWN BY CEDAR VALLEY BUT I'M BACK TO BACK WITH MR. SMITH ON THE OTHER SIDE OF TOWN, THAT'S FOR REAL.

AND SO, I WANTED PLACED ON THE AGENDA FOR DISTRICT 6 AND DISTRICT 7 TO HAVE A COMMUNITY EVENT FOR THEIR CONSTITUENTS BUT INVITE ALL THE COMMITTEE SO THAT WOULD BE ON THE AGENDA.

THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE SOMETHING I WOULD GET A SECOND FROM DISTRICT 7 TO GET DISTRICT 7 TO AGREE TO DO THAT AND SHOW THAT WE WOULD INCLUDE THAT BECAUSE OUR DISTRICT RUNS CONSECUTIVE WITH THE CITY DISTRICT LIVES. THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE A BOARD AGREEMENT.

THE OTHER THOUGHT TO ADD TO THAT IF THE BOARD, I THINK, SHOULD ALWAYS COLLABORATE WITH THE TWO LARGEST EMPLOYERS IN THIS CITY THAT WE SHOULD HAVE A ROUTINE MEETING BETWEEN THE CITY AND SCHOOL BOARDS TOGETHER THAT IF IT HAS NOT HAPPENED IT HAS TO CHANGE.

BECAUSE THE SCHOOL BOARD HAVE TO COLLABORATE WITH THE CITY, THE CITY SHOULD COLLABORATE WITH THEDISTRICT , BECAUSE WE SHARE TAXES. WE SHARE TAXES, THEY GET HALF AND WE GET HALF. SO WE HAVE NO DISCUSSION AND THAT'S THE SECOND THING.

THE OTHER THING IS WHEN SO IT'S THREE AND I WILL LEAVE IT AT THREE IS WHEN A BOARD MEMBER PUT AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA TO SEE SOMETHING HAPPEN THAT WE RESPECT THAT BOARD MEMBER REGARDLESS OF WHO THAT WHATEVER IS WE RESPECT THAT BOARD MEMBER IN THE PUTTING THAT ITEM IF THAT BOARD MEMBER HAS A SECOND TO PUT ON THERE. I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD GET TO A MEETING AND BOARD MEMBERS SEE THAT ITEM ON THE AGENDA AND THEY IMMEDIATELY MAKE A MOTION TO WASH IT BEFORE IT'S EVER HEARD. I THINK WE SHOULD BE FAIR TO ALL BOARD MEMBERS WHERE THEY CAN EXPRESS THEIR CONCERN BECAUSE THAT RELATIONSHIP AND THEN NOBODY WALK AWAY WITHANGER , UPSET, EVERYBODY, I DON'T THINK BOARD MEMBERS SHOULD ATTACK OTHER BOARD MEMBERS BY PUTTING AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA WHETHER THEY LIKE IT OR NOT OR DON'T WANT TO DO IT. THEY WILL HAVE OUR VOTE HOW THEY WANT TO.

>> THE SECOND ONE WAS A MEETING BOARD MEMBER HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PUT POINTS ON THE AGENDA WITH THE SUPERINTENDENT AND BECAUSE IT WOULD HAVE TO BE THE SUPERINTENDENT AND THE CITY MANAGER SET IT UP .THAT WOULD NOT CALL FOR BACKUP THAT WOULD JUST CALL TO HAVE THE BOARD TO VOTE ON. YOU GOT THE THIRD ONE? THAT WE WILL RESPECT THE INDIVIDUAL BOARD MEMBERS PLACING AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA AND GIVE THEM WHENEVER THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT IT BECAUSE I CAN SAY THAT TRULY HAS HAPPENED TO ME ONE TIME AND BEFORE EVERYBODY SAID NOBODY WANTED TO LOOK AT THE BACKUP IT WAS JUST AUTOMATICALLY NOW. BECAUSE THE BOARD WAS OVERFLOWED WITH THE NOTES.

WELL, ARE WE REALLY FAIR TO THE INDIVIDUALS IN SUPPORT OF IT? THAT WAS MY TREAT.

>> MADAM CHAIR. SOME ITEMS WE YOU REFERENCE WILL COME UNDER TOWNHALL MEETINGS WHICH IS THE NEXT SECTION. JUST LET ME FINISH.

THE OTHER IS JOINED MEETINGS A MEASURE THAT BELONGS TOOUR BOARD OPERATING PROCEDURES .

THE TRAINING AND WE GET THAT SCHEDULED. THOSE ARE JUST MY TWO POINTS THERE. THE THIRD POINT AT THE GOES BACK TO THE ETHICS WHICH ALSO

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ENCOMPASSES SOME OF THOSE ITEMS THERE. NOT SPECIFICALLY SAY YOU CAN PUT ON THE AGENDA YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT IT BUT I THINK WE HAVE THAT TRAINING BE VERY SPECIFIC WHEN GIVING EXAMPLES OF WHAT WE DEFINE AS BEING RESPECTFUL AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.

SO I DID NOTE THOSE FOR MY RECORDS, AS WELL. THAT'S MY THREE CENTS, THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, TRUSTEE JONES, FOR THAT INFORMATION. I WILL GO BACK TO TRUSTEE CLEWIS. SOME OF US AS SEASONED BOARD MEMBERS DO NOT UNDERSTAND THAT AND IT JUST A REFRESHER TO REMIND WITH DUE RESPECT WITH SEVEN BOARD MEMBERS JUST TO GIVE THEM THAT LITTLE COMFORT THAT THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO PUT SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA AND NOT GET TO A BOARD MEETING SOON AS I COME UP ALL MAKE A MOTION TO NOT DO IT.

I AM NOT SAYING IT LIKE THAT ARE RELATED TO THE ATTORNEYS TO PUT IT IN THE LEGAL TERM BUT I WILL STAND WITH THAT BECAUSE IT HAPPENS TOO MUCH ON THIS BOARD AND WE ARE TRYING TO SHOW, SOMETIMES THINGS HAVE TO BE IN BLACK AND WHITE. WE ARE NOT POLICING NOBODY.

BUT WE ARE GIVING INDIVIDUALS THEY FEEL LIKE IF THEY ARE NOT A PART AN OPPORTUNITY TO FEEL LIKE THEY ARE A PART. WITH THE SUPPORT AND MAKE SURE BECAUSE EVERYTHING WILL NEED TO BE DISCUSSED WITH THE SUPERINTENDENT. THAT WAS MY FEEDBACK TO THAT AND I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENT. ANYBODY ELSE? WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT ONE.

>> ON THE CONDUCTING BOARD MEETINGS TO YOUR WANT TO HAVE AN OVERALL TIME LIMIT? RIGHT NOW YOU ARE AT THREE MINUTES YOU SIGN UP THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT WE REPRESENT SOME DISTRICTS WHERE THREE MINUTES TIMES 150 PEOPLE SIGN UP THAT WOULD BE A LOT OF TIME. THE STATUTE THAT REQUIRES THAT AUTHORIZES YOU ALL TO PUT A REASONABLE TIME LIMIT ON THE PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION IF YOU CHOOSE TO DO SO.

WE HAVE A BUNCH OF DISTRICTS IT'S NOT A HUGE PROBLEM IN THIS DISTRICT WE DON'T HAVE TWO TOO MANY BUT IT IS PUT OUT THERE IF YOU WANT TO BE ABLE TO SET A TIME LIMIT LIKE 30 MINUTES OR SOMETHING FOR CITIZEN COMMENTS OR NOT?

>> ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENTS BEFORE I SAY SOMETHING ON THAT ONE?

>> I AM OKAY WITH THREE MINUTES.

>> IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE 30 MINUTES.

>> I SAID THREE.

>> IF I CAN, SAY THAT WE HAVE A HOT TOPIC TO DISCUSS IN A BOARD MEETING AND YOU DO HAVE 50-100 I THINK IF THEY ARE ONLY SPEAKING ON THAT ONE TOPIC I BELIEVE THAT THE 50 OF 100 SHOULD SELECT WHO WOULD BE THE SPOKESPERSON FOR IT COULD BE T , THREE OR FOUR AND THEN WE SAID AN OVERALL TIMEFRAME FOR THAT DISCUSSION TO BE DONE WITH THE STOP.

TO GIVE THEIR BOARDS TO BE HEARD. BECAUSE FOR EACH ONE OF THEM TO COME UP AND SPEAK AND THEY GOT 50-100 BUT THE BOARD CAN'T GIVE ANY FEEDBACK TO THEM WE WILL ONLY DIRECT THE SUPERINTENDENT SO THE SUPERINTENDENT WILL LOOK TO ALL OF THESE LETTERS AND ALL THESE EMAILS TO FIGURE OUT WHAT EVERY ONE OF THEM WANTED WHEN IT WAS ACTUALLY THE SAME THING.

AND SO, WE CAN SAY IF IT'S A HOT TOPIC THE INDIVIDUALS I THINK IT GOES TO MS. SIMPSON THE COMMUNICATION PERSON IF YOU HAVE A HOT TOPIC.

>> MADAM CHAIR, I GUESS THE QUESTION IS GOING TO BE 30 MINUTES OR LESS THAN 30 MINUTES?THE TIME IS REALLY EXPIRING.

>> THAT WAS WHAT I WAS ASKING MS. SIMPSON. IF THERE IS IF YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO CALCULATE HOW MANY IT IS BECAUSE THAT'S GONNA DRIVE THE MINUTES.

>> THREE MINUTES PER SPEAKER AND WE GIVE THEM A MAXIMUM OF 30 MINUTES FIRST ALL SPEAKERS.

>> THERE ARE SKEWED STANDARD PROVISIONS WHAT IS TOO MANY SPEAKERS SAID YOU CAN CUT THE THREE MINUTES DOWN TO ONE AND NUMBER TWO THERE'S ANOTHER STANDARD PROVISION THAT SAYS IF

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MULTIPLE SPEAKERS SPEAK ON ONE TOPIC THEY CAN APPOINT A REPRESENTATIVE AND THEY GET MAYBE DOUBLETIME.

>> IS THAT POLICY?

>> NO, THAT WOULD BE THE POLIC . IT COULD GO EASILY AND HERE.

>> ALL RIGHT, I'M IN AND BRINGS WITH THE TIME LIMIT. CITIZEN COMMUNICATIONS CANNOT EXCEED 30 MINUTES FOR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT. AND THEN TO BE OUR DISCRETION BASED ON THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT SIGN UP IF YOU WILL EXTEND THE THREE MINUTES OR NARROW IT DOWN.

>> THAT'S STILL GOING TO COME BACK TO MS. SIMPSON BECAUSE SHE WILL GOING TO GET IT SO BEFORE WE HAVE THE BOARD MEETING MRS. SIMPSON WOULD ALREADY COMMUNICATE WITH THE BOARD PRESIDENT HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE SPEAKING ON IT. THAT'S WHAT I WAS SAYING THAT WOULD BE THE DETERMINING FACTOR.

>> THEN IF YOU HAD 30 PEOPLE SIDE OF YOU LIMIT IT.

>> LET THEM ALL TALK THEY HAVE TO SIT HERE AND LISTEN. LET ALL 150 OF THEM.

>> OKAY, THE NEXT ONE.

>> THE RETENTION OF THE TEMPLE I LOOKED AT THE TOWNHALL MEETING THINK AND UNDER THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT MEETINGS ACT YOU MAY DECIDE TO RETAIN IT BECAUSE YOU LIKE THE NAME BUT THE TOWNHALL MEETING WHERE FOUR OR MORE TRUSTEES AND SUPPORT ME.

SO I COULD CALL IT A TOWNHALL MEETING IS TO THE BOARD MEETING.SO I'M SURE I NEED A SPECIFIC PROVISION TO THAT YOU MAY DISAGREE AND THINK THAT'S A GOOD THING TO KEEP.

--BUT REGARDLESS WHETHER YOU PUT IT IN OR NOT IT'S A BOARD MEETING AND HAS TO BE POSTED.

THE GOVERNMENT MEETINGS ACT.

>> I THINK WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT THIS MANY MOONS AGO IT WAS MORE SO TO BE ONE OF TRUSTEE DOING THAT FOR THEIR RESPECTIVE DISTRICT AND POSSIBLY THE BOARD PRESIDENT THE COMPANY.

HE WOULD NOT BE A QUORUM IT WOULD JUST BE MAXIMUM OF TWO TRUSTEES.

>> THAT'S NOT A MEETING AT ALL.

>> THE TOWNHALL IS WITH US COMMUNICATING WITH THE SUPERINTENDENT WHAT'S GOING ON IN OUR DISTRICT WITH RESPECT OUR CONSTITUENTS.

>> YOU WANT TO MEMORIALIZE THAT?

>> THAT'S WHAT WE THINK ABOUT THE TOWNHALL MEETING THAT'S HOW THE CITY INDEXERS.

WHEN THEY HAVE THE CITY COUNCIL GOT TO THE RESPECTIVE DISTRICTS AND HAVE THE COMMUNITY COME OUT AND LISTEN TO WHAT IS GOING ON. THAT WAS THE INTENT OF THE TOWNHALL.

WHEN WE INITIALLY TALKED ABOUT IT.

>> LET ME QUESTIONS ONE MORE TIME FOR YOU TO DO THAT AND MEMORIALIZE IT IN THE POLICY WILL THE DISTRICT MAKE THE RESOURCE AVAILABLE?

>> I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ONE CONDUCTING ONE HONESTLY. I THINK WE PLANNED TO WE ALSO WENT TO SOME HOA MEETINGS WHICH COULD HAVE BEEN DONE DURING THOSE PARTICULAR SETTINGS BECAUSE OF CALL THAT A TOWNHALL MEETING.

>> THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT BUT IF THERE ARE FACILITIES IN SOMEONE'S GONNA POLITICIZE IT I WOULD RATHER BECAUSE OF THE WITH THE TRUSTEE YOU THE PERMISSION TO USE A DISTRICT FACILITY.

>> MR. HAMLIN IF I MAY SAY IN THE LATE 90S AND EARLY 2000 IT WAS HAPPENING LIKE THAT.

IT WAS ACTUALLY PER DISTRICT BUT IT WAS IN A JOINT WITH THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE SUPERINTENDENT ACTUALLY GUIDED THAT. AND SO, THAT'S THE WAY IT WAS WAY BACK IN THE DAY. SO AFTER 2010, I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY WERE LOOKING AT IT BUT I WAS THINKING SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I WOULD ONLY JUST SAY MR., DISTRICT SIMPSON DISTRICT 7 OUR DISTRICTS BUT HEADS. IN THE PAST IT WAS ONLY IT WAS

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ONE CITY COUNCILMEMBER IN THE DISTRICT AND ONE BOARD MEMBER BUT ACTUALLY THE SUPERINTENDENT LED THE MEETING.

>> MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE IF YOU DO THAT IT DOESN'T MATTER IF IT'S ONE OR TWO OR EVEN THREE. THAT WE PUT IN THE THAT IS ABSOLUTE CONSTITUENT MEETINGS ARE ABSOLUTELY LEGITIMATE EXERCISE OF GOVERNANCE SO THAT IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT IS PERFECTLY LEGITIMATE BUT YOU COULD REQUISITION FACILITY TO CONDUCT THAT.

>> I KINDA THINK WE SHOULD EXPLORE THAT FOR THE FACT THAT I DO HERE IN THE COMMUNITY A LOT THERE'S NO COMMUNICATION COMING FORWARD WITH THE COMMUNITY AND THE BOARD.

IT'S JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT.

>> I WILL HAVE SOME LANGUAGE I CAN'T MEMBER THE NAME OF IT THERE WAS ONE TRUSTEE AT.

>>, THANK YOU FOR THE >> TRUSTEE VISITATION POLICIES.

>> YES, BOARD MEMBERS, ANY COMMENT ABOUT WHAT IS IN PLACE NOW AS FAR AS VISITING OUR CAMPUSES AND VISITING THE CLASSROOMS?

>> I LIKE WHAT IS IN PLACE NOW I HAVE TO ADMIT PROBLEM THE ORIGINAL THESE OF THE

>> RIGHT NOW THIS IS BROUGHT TO OUT OF NOT LONG AGO WITH RESPECT IT IS TO BALANCE TO THE BUT ALSO PROVIDES SAFE HARBORS FOR TRUSTEE IS APPARENT IS THAT WHEN YOU AND YOUR PARENT YOU DON'T DO THAT. OR ANY OTHER PUBLIC SO YOU CAN'T BE BANNED, ESSENTIAL, FROM PUBLIC AT THAT TIME.

>> GLAD YOU SAID THAT. I DO AGREE THAT THE SUPERINTENDENT SHOULD BE NOTIFIED WHEN A BOARD MEMBER IS GOING ON A CAMPUS JUST TO VISIT ESPECIALLY TO SPEAK WITH ANY OTHER ADMINISTRATOR ABOUT THEIR DUTIES OR ABOUT CONCERNS ABOUT THE DISTRICT.

SO I AGREE WITH THAT.

>> THANK YOU, MADAME CHAIR. I LIKE WHAT IS HERE, AS WELL. I WOULD ONLY ASK I MIGHT SEND AN EMAIL MINUTES BEFORE YOU GO TO THE CAMPUS AND SAY I'M GOING TO THE HIGH SCHOOL AND END UP THERE AND I HAD NO ABILITY TO RESPOND TO THAT I THINK EVERYBODY HERE HAS A CELL PHONE NUMBERS AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS SO RESPECT WE I ASK THAT WE ARE AWARE IF YOU'RE GOING TO VISIT CAMPUS AND IF YOU LIKE TO VISIT CAMPUS.

>> SECOND PARAGRAPH IT SAYS MUST COORDINATE WITH THE SUPERINTENDENT WAS SCHOOLS AND OBTAIN CONSENT.

>> I UNDERSTAND THE COMMUNICATION WITH A SIMPLE EMAIL THAT WENT TO THE HIGH SCHOOL.

>> THEY HAVE TO GET YOUR CONSENT.

>> I UNDERSTAND.

>> WHAT ELSE DO YOU WANT?

>> I DON'T WANT ANYTHING ELSE I JUST WANTED TO BE CLEAR. IT WAS COMMUNICATED TO ME ABOUT THAT BUT IT WAS NOT COLLABORATION. IN FACT, I WAS NOT EVEN IN TOWN.

>> THE TERMS AS THE SUPERINTENDENT DEEMS APPROPRIATE.

>> I JUST WANTED TO REITERATE IT.

>> MADAM CHAIR, IF I COULD ASK A QUESTION. YOUR REFERENCING SOMEONE WENT ON A CAMPUS AS A TRUSTEE VERSUS BEING A PARENT. I'M OKAY TO VISIT IS APPARENT

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WITHOUT THE PERMISSION, CORRECT?

>> THE LAST PARAGRAPH, TRUSTEES IN THEIR INDIVIDUAL CAPACITIES AS PARENTS OR GRANDPARENTS DO NOT HAVE TO OBTAIN SUPERINTENDENT APPROVAL.LAST PARAGRAPH.

>> TRUSTEE CLEWIS THERE WAS A COMMISSIONER RULING ON THE AND THAT REALLY STANDS SET PRECEDENT BUT IT WAS A RULING. IN THAT.

>> I SHOULD ADD GUARDIANS.

>> AND IT'S A SAFETY ISSUE, TOO. ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT ONE?

>> NO QUESTIONS A COUPLE OF COMMENTS. SECOND PARAGRAPH WE HAVE TRUSTEES MUST COORDINATE THAT SECOND LINE READS UPON SUCH TERMS THAT SHE SUPERINTENDENT.

>> I GOT THAT. SORRY ABOUT THAT.

>> THE OTHER PART ON BULLET C THAT KIND OF TIES INTO WHAT YOU BRING DOWN THOSE PARAGRAPHS SO WE NEED TO UPDATE THAT.

>> YES, THAT WAS PRE-EXISTING POSITION TO UNDERSTAND.

>> MADAM CHAIR. IT WAS ALSO RECOMMENDED THAT INSTEAD OF SAYING TRUSTEES IS IT THE CAMPUS BUT ALSO OTHER FACILITIES.

>> RIGHT, RIGHT, I WAS READING THAT WHEN MR. STEPHENS HAD INDICATED THAT HE HAD STATED DESCRIBING TO ADD TO ANY BUSINESS TO OBSERVE ANY SECURITY CHANGES WHILE THERE.

I DIDN'T GET THAT PART.

>> THE FIRST PARAGRAPH IN BLUE REFERS TO VISITING CAMPUS ADMINISTRATION BUILDINGS.

>> TRUSTEE JONES.

>> I THINK I RECOMMEND REFLECTION TAKEN OUT OF THE ADMINISTRATION BUILDING.

>> HOLD ON, WE HAVE A SIDEBAR AND I WANT TO KNOW THE SIDEBAR IS TO SEE THIS RELATED TO THIS.

>> THE TITLE IS TRUSTEE SCHOOL CAMPUSES WE MADE TO STRIKE THE WORD SCHOOL BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO SAY CAMPUSES SHOULD PROBABLY JUST MAYBE SAY VISIT TO FACILITIES OR DISTRICT PROPERTY. BECAUSE WERE TRYING TO NARROW IT DOWN SO BE SCHOOL CAMPUS WINNING ANY DISTRICT PROPERTY.

>> RIGHT, IF YOU LOOK TO THE CORNER WITH TRUSTEE STEPHENS HAD SAID WHICH MAKES SENSE MADAM PRESIDENT BUT JUST FOR THE SAKE OF SOME BOARD MEMBERS DON'T REALIZE THAT JD HALL IS IN SCHOOL. THEY MAY NOT THINK OF IT AS A SCHOOL OR EVEN AS A SCHOOL PROPERTY. SO IS THE INTERPRETATION OF THE INDIVIDUAL.

>> IF WE SAY DISTRICT FACILITIES THAT INCLUDES THAT.

>> WE KNOW THAT AND UNDERSTAND THAT BUT THEN READER FRIENDLY.

>> THERE IS AN EXCEPTION TO THE PUBLIC SO IF IT'S LIKE A FOOTBALL GAME YOU DON'T NEED THE SUPERINTENDENT'S APPROVAL FOR THAT BECAUSE YOU'RE ALWAYS INVITED.

OR OVER TO THE BASKETBALL GAME WE ARE INVITED. BUT IF YOU'RE GOING TO VISIT THE CAMPUS OR VISIT CLASSROOMS WITH THE TEACHERS THEN THE PUBLIC ISN'T INVITED TO THAT SO THAT'S WHERE THEY NEED THE INVITE.

>> I WAS JUST DATA FOR INTERPRETATION WELL I CAN GO TO A GAME SO I CAN GO TO SCHOOL.

NOT REALIZING THE GAME IS ON SCHOOL DISTRICT PROPERTY. I KNOW IT MAY SOUND ELEMENTARY.

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>> HE HAS A SECTION IN THEIR THIS IS AN LESS AS A PUBLIC INVITE IT'S THERE TO LET THEM KNOW THE DIFFERENTIATION BETWEEN CLOSED SOMETHING IS SOMETHING THAT'S OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.

>> I HERE AND YOU CAN CLEAN THAT UP. OKAY WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT ONE.

>> THE NEXT ONE IS COMMUNICATIONS. I DID NOT MAKE ANY MANYCHANGES IN THAT . THIS IS NOT NECESSARILY TRYING TO CONTROL PEOPLE'S COMMUNICATIONS SO MUCH AS THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT IS A TRICKY THING SO TRUSTEES NEED TO SEND ALL IS THAT THE ENEMY OF TRUSTEES BECAUSE IT'S EASY TO DO YOU SAID ABOUT THE TRUSTEES YOU JUST VIOLATED OPEN MEETINGS ACT. ALL YOUR COMMUNICATION SHOULD BE THROUGH THE SUPERINTENDENT AND THAT THE SUPERINTENDENT CAN DISTRIBUTE THAT THAT'S THE TECHNICAL COMPLIANCE ISSUE YOU NEED TO STAY AWARE OF TO KEEP EVERYBODY OUT OF TROUBLE IS NOT A CONTROL THING IT'S COMPLIANCE WITH THE LAW.

>> MADAM CHAIR AND MR. HALE AND IF I COULD ASK THIS QUESTION BECAUSE HERE LATELY I HAVE SEEN A NUMBER OF EMAILS THAT HAVE DONE JUST THAT TO VIOLATE SO HOW DO WE ADDRESS THOSE VIOLATIONS? IS IT SOMETHING HERE THAT SPEAKS TO WHAT THE CONSEQUENCES WILL BE? SHOULD THERE BE IF THERE IS NOT SOMETHING HERE WORD IT.

>> IF YOU ARE ASKING ME, MR. CLEWIS, THAT WAS DIRECTED TOWARDS MR. HALE AND BECAUSE WE DON'T POLICE A BOARD MEMBER BUT IF WE KNOW THAT THERE IS A BOARD MEMBER THAT'S VIOLATING THE LAW WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY AND WE HAVE IT OUTLET FOR THAT.

LUCKILY AT THIS POINT WE HAVE A CONSERVATOR BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE A CONSERVATOR YOU CAN COMPLETE A REPORT THAT TO THE STATE. WE DO HAVE AN OUTLET. I THINK A LOT OF THINGS HAPPEN AND THEY CONTINUED TO HAPPEN BECAUSE BOARD MEMBERS KNOW IT'S ILLEGAL IT'S ALMOST LIKE YOU PLAY SHE PLAY YOU BOTH GUILTY. IF YOU KEEP ALLOWING ONE TO DO IT AND IT'S A VIOLATION.

I THINK THAT HOPEFULLY WILL BE FORWARD YOU ALL RESPECT THAT. THAT WAS A GOOD QUESTION MR. CLEWIS.

>> MADAM CHAIR, I DID SAY TO HIM WE HAVE SIX AND 21 WHICH ALSO TIES INTO PDF LOCAL SO IT WILL BE ADDRESSED AS WE MOVE FORWARD MAYBE NOT TONIGHT BECAUSE IT'S 8:15 O'CLOCK AND WE DO STOP IN ABOUT 15 MINUTES.

>> LET ME TRY TO GET THE LAST PAGE. THE WEEKLY NEWSLETTER IS FINE ALL THE ITEMS I DON'T SEE ANY REASON TO CHANGE THE SEAMS EVERYBODY SEEMS TO BE OKAY WITH ALL THAT. THERE IS INFORMATION IN HERE ABOUT THE BOARD SELF-EVALUATIO . IT SETS A DATE. THERE'S NO STATUTE ON THAT.

JUST BE AWARE THAT RIGHT NOW IT'S IN AUGUST. THE BOARD SELF-EVALUATION IS IN APRIL. YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO SET GOALS BY THE END OF AUGUST IF I COULD SUGGEST A SLIGHT ALTERATION OF THAT EITHER DO IT AT THE END, DUE IN JULY OR SEPTEMBER BECAUSE AUGUST IS A BUDGET MONTH. AND THAT ALWAYS SLIPS SO I WOULD DO IT IT DOESN'T MATTER WHETHER AFTER BUT IF YOU DO IT AT THE SAME TIME AS ALWAYS GET SHORT SHIFT IN TERMS OF THAT BECAUSE EVERYBODY SPENDING THEIR TIME WITH THE BUDGET. THAT'S NOT LAWYER TALK THAT'S JUST PRAGMATIC.

>> THANK YOU FOR THAT SUGGESTION. I THINK THAT'S WELL TAKEN.

THAT WE CONSIDER THAT. ANY BOARD MEMBERS HAVE ANY CONCERNS OR SUGGESTIONS?

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OKAY WE CAN MOVE TO THE NEXT ONE.

>> THE PROCESS FOR SELECTING BOARD OFFICERS I WOULD TAKE OUT BECAUSE YOU WHOLE SECTION IN YOUR POLICY ABOUT BOARD OFFICERS. , IF MR. JONES WAS TO INCLUDE IN HERE I WOULD DO THE SAME THING WITH BOARD OFFICERS AND PUT THAT SECTION IN HERE IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT. BUT, THERE'S A COUPLE NEW CONCEPTS IN HERE THAT ARE NOT A NEW POLICY SO THEY SHOULD ALL BE IN ONE PLACE AND THAT POLICY THAT'S ARTICULATED IN HERE IS TRUSTEE MAY NOT SERVE AS A BOARD OFFICERS UNTIL MEMBERS COMPLETE AT LEAST ONE YEAR OF SERVICE. THAT THE POLICY CHANGE YOU CAN MAKE OR NOT IF YOU CAN MAKE IT I WOULD PUT IN AND IN THE BOARD POLICY, AS WELL. AND THEN TO ANY TRUSTEE DEFICIENT AND TRAINING IS NOT ELIGIBLE FOR NOMINATION TO HOLD THE OFFICE OF THE BOARD AS WELL. JUST FOR REFERENCE YOU HAVE MADE ELECTIONS THE NOMINATIONS WOULD BE IN THE BAY IN TERMS OF THE TRAINING SCHEDULE IS OUT THERE IN TERMS OF THAT SO JUST BE AWARE. THAT WOULD MEAN FOR TWO REASONS IF YOU FEEL LIKE A TRUSTEE CANNOT BE AN OFFICER THAT THE POLICY DECISION, IT'S YOUR CALL.

>> MADAM CHAIR, MR. HANLIN. SO IF YOU WANT TO MAINTAIN CURRENT OPERATING PROCEDURES WE CAN UPDATE THAT WITH OUR POLICY?

>> WE NEED TO SYNCHRONIZE THEM AND LIKE A SAID WE CAN DO THE SAME THING WE DID ON THE OTHER ONE WHICH IS WHAT THAT POLICY IN HERE VERBATIM IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT AND PLACES.

>> I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA.

>> DO YOU WANT TO RETAIN THESE PROVISIONS?

>> I WOULD SAY YES BUT I KNOW IT IS TO GO TO THE POLICY COMMITTEE FOR US TO REVIEW IT AS WELL AND BRING IT BACK TO THE BODY SO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION WE WILL HAVE THAT IN MEETING.

>> NOT TO DRAW ANY OBJECTIONS.

>> RIGHT, BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY BEEN DISCUSSED. I THINK WITH THAT'S WHAT WERE

ACTING ON IT NOW. >> I MEAN, I GUESS JUST POLICY TO REFLECT THIS IT HAS TO GO TO THE POLICY COMMITTEE.

>> RIGHT, BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS THE BOARD HAS ALREADY ACTING IN THE MANNER SO APPARENTLY WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS IT MUST'VE ALREADY BEEN SETTLED WITH THE BOARD BECAUSE WHAT MR. HANLIN IS STATING IS HE HAS CHANGED YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE TRAINING AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE AT LEAST SERVED FOR A YEAR. I HAVE SEEN THAT PRACTICE FOR A WHILE.

>> I UNDERSTAND THE PRACTICE BUT IS NOT IN THE POLICY RIGHT NOW.

>> MAYBE IT CAME OUT SO IF YOU WANT TO TAKE IT TO THE POLICY COMMITTEE YOU CAN.

>> FOR US TO PUT IN POLICY IT NEEDS TO.

>> WE ARE PUTTING ON THE GUIDELINES.

>> WHAT HE JUST MENTIONED AS HE WAS TO PUT A POLICY IN THE GUIDELINES.

WE THE POLICY TO REFLECT WHAT WE HAVE BEEN HERE SO IT'S SYNCHRONIZED.

>> IN THE NEXT DRAFT LIKE A DID WITH THIS OTHER POLICY AND DID THIS TO SINK UP AND WE CAN PLACE IT IN THEM.

>> THANK YOU, TRUSTEE JONES. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T LEAVE PAGE 6 DOWN AT THE BOTTOM THE BOARD SUPERINTENDENT. WE WANT TO ADDRESS ABOUT SUPERINTENDENT SHOULD SHARE ALL REQUESTS FOR INFORMATION. WE KNOW THAT BUT MORE THAN IT NEEDS TO BE A NUMBER THERE MORE THAN THAT BULLET MORE THAN INDIVIDUAL TRUSTEE REQUEST FOR INFORMATION MAY MAKE ON A MONTHLY BASIS WITHOUT INVOKING THE PROCEDURES SET FORTH THEREIN.

SO WHAT DO THE BOARD THINK ABOUT A NUMBER THERE? IT'S ON PAGE 6 WE DON'T GET HALFWAY THROUGH THIS.

>> AS AN REQUEST OR THE NUMBER OF REQUESTS?

>> IT'S WHAT I CALL PITCH COUN . FOR POINT OF REFERENCE THE

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TEXAS EDUCATION CODE SAYS YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO REPORT MORE THAN 200 PAGES PER MONTH.

SUPPOSED TO KEEP A RUNNING TOTAL OF THE REQUESTED REPORT WHICH MAY BE A DECENT NUMBER BECAUSE IT'S GOT SOME PROVISION IN THE LAW.

>> AND SO, TO MAKE CLARITY ON THAT SO THAT 200 PAGES HAS THE WORD AFTER THAT INDIVIDUAL.

SO I AM THINKING IN MIND NO MORE THAN 74 NUMBERS NO MORE THAN HOW MANY PAGES BECAUSE AND I'M KEEPING IN MIND THAT OUR REQUEST SHOULD COME EITHER FROM A CONSTITUENT THAT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH MAYBE SOMETHING THEY SAW ON THE BUS STOP OR SOMETHING DEALING WITH SOMETHING IN THE NORM OF OUR AREA. NOT SO MUCH AS I WANT TO KNOW HOW MANY EMPLOYEES YOU DISCIPLINED I WONDER HOW MANY SOMEONE WITH OPERATIONS.

BECAUSE I THINK THAT WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WILL BE GOING REQUEST BECAUSE IT WILL TAKE AWAY FROM STAFF ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS SO WHAT WILL WE AS INDIVIDUAL BOARD MEMBERS HOW MANY TIMES MY CAN ASK DOCTOR PERERA ABOUT GETTING OFF THE BUS.

>> YES, IT GOES ON THE WEBSITE. THE INFORMATION IT GOES ON THE WEBSITE AND THE NUMBER OF REQUESTS AND THAT AMOUNT OF TIME SPENT RESPOND TO THE REQUEST THAT IS CORRECT.

>> AND THE MONEY IT COST TO FULFILL.

>> THE TIME AND COSTS AND EXPENSES.

>> THANK YOU DOCTOR FRIENDS WHILE FOR THAT IS SOMETHING WE HAVE BEEN TRACKING IN MY OFFICE REGARDING HOW MANY REQUESTS COME IN AND HOW MUCH TIME IT TAKES OUR STAFF BASED ON THEIR RATE AS WELL. IT'S QUITE LOFTY RIGHT NOW.

>>.

>> WE WILL LIFTED THE LANGUAGE FROM THE STATUTE AND PUT IN.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT COMMENT. TRUSTEE SMITH I SAW YOUR HAND UP.

>> PARDON MY RUDENESS THAT WAS AN AGREEMENT THAT VERY TOPIC HAS COME UP SEVERAL TIMES IN SEVERAL DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS SO I APPRECIATE YOU MAKING THE SENTIMENT.

THAT'S ALL IT WAS.

>> ANY MORE COMMENTS ON THAT ONE? AND THAT WAS AT THE END OF PAGE 6. DO YOU ALL WE GOT ABOUT FOUR MINUTES DO YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND I'M GOING TO THANK YOU ALL FOR GOING AHEAD AND WORKING WITH ME TONIGHT TO GIVE YOU THIS BECAUSE WE ARE ALMOST FINISHED.

>> A NUMBER OF REQUESTS IN A NUMBER OF PAGES OR JUST LEAVE IT BLANK FOR NOW?

>> IF YOU GIVE US SOME EXAMPLES WITH IDEAS.

>> 200 BECAUSE I THAT'S THE STATUTE.

>> THAT'S IT. TWO PAGES BUT WHEN EVERYTHING IS NOT A PAGE SOME THINGS ARE PAPERS OR RESEARCH DRIVEN SO MAYBE TIME VERSUS PAGES.

>> WE CAN PUT A TIME CONSTRAIN .

>> TIME VERSUS PAGES GENERATED.

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>> STAFF TIME, SUPERINTENDENT TIME, HOW MANY HOURS?

>> SO WOULD THIS BE PER MONTH, PER TRUSTEE?

>> I SAY NO MORE THAN 15 MINUTES FOR US IN THIS REASON WHY I SAY NO MORE THAN 15 MINUTES IS BECAUSE MS. BRYANT, I'M TALKING ABOUT PER BOARD MEMBER PER REQUEST BECAUSE MS. BRYANT IS OFFERED TO THE BOARD SHE DOESN'T GET PAID EXTRA TO DO ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT THINGS. IF SHE IS GOING TO TAKE 15 MINUTES A DAY AND YOU COULD ALMOST GET AN EMAIL FROM A PERSON THREE OR FOUR TIMES A DAY, 10 TIMES A WEEK, SO IF WE CUT IT AND BE MORE SPECIFIC THAT HER TIME WOULD BE BETTER USED THAT HAVE THIS EMAIL AND HAVE DEDICATED 15 MINUTES. PRESIDENT HAMILTON, WERE YOU FINISHED?

>> FIRST THING, IF WE COULD GO BACK IT SAYS NO MORE THAN INDIVIDUAL TRUSTEE REQUEST TO BECOME OF A NUMBER WILL FOR THAT REQUEST FOR INDIVIDUAL TRUSTEE?

>> I THINK MR. HANLIN WAS A 200 BUT NOT 200 INDIVIDUAL HE WAS A COLLECTIVELY BETWEEN SEVEN BOARD MEMBERS, RIGHT?

>> THE 200 WAS PAGES REMEMBER WHATEVER NUMBER WE HAVE IT'S TIME SEVEN OR COULD BE TIMES SEVEN. SO WE NEED TO TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT.

IF WE USE TIME INSTEAD OF PAGES AND LEASE 15 MINUTES THEN THAT WOULD BE 300 MINUTES PER MONTH.

ASK LET ME BETTER QUANTIFIED THAT I AGREE

>> LET ME QUALIFY THAT I AGREE SO WHEN TRUSTEE HAS FACILITATED $40,000 PLUS WILL SELECT DIFFERENT THAN 22 PAGES.

>> WE CAN DO IN DOLLAR AMOUNTS WE CAN DO ANY FIXED AMOUNT WE JUST NEED TO ARTICULATE IT.

WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO IS WE GOT A STATUTORY THING THE ADMINISTRATION HAS BEEN SWAMPE . THERE HAVE BEEN INCIDENCES. THERE'S A SUPREME COURT CASE WERE TRUSTEE AT THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS. CONSTRAINT ON THAT TRUSTEE THAT WERE UPHELD SO WERE TRYING TO MIRROR THAT A LITTLE BIT IN TERMS OF CONSTRAINING THE REQUESTS. IT'S A BALANCE. AND MAYBE YOU ASKING FOR THAT INFORMATION AT ANY GIVEN POINT IN TIME SO THERE NEEDS TO BE A REASONABLE AMOUNT NOT SO MUCH THAT THE ADMINISTRATION SPENDS ALL THEIR TIME ANSWERING REQUESTS AND NOT RUNNING THE PLACE. SO WE OUGHT TO DO IT NOW RIGHT UP FOR HOURS FOR COST ALL RIGHT OF ALL THE DIFFERENT WAYS AND YOU CAN PUT IN THE WAY YOU WANT.

>> MR. HANLIN, THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST THAT YOU BRING SOME SUGGESTIONS BACK WITH THE BOARD AND IF YOU WANT TO REFERENCE CASE LAW PLEASE DO SO.

I DIDN'T WANT IT TO GET TO 8:30 PM SO WE ARE RIGHT IN BETWEEN 830 AND 831 AND WE DID SAY HARD STOP. I WANT TO APPRECIATE YOU ALL FOR MOVING ON TO SEVEN PAGES SO HOW DO YOU FEEL?

>> IN THE RECENT 8:30 PM BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT MY QUESTION TO ANSWER.

THE SECOND PART OF THAT IS IF THERE'S A SALARY THAT IS TO BE MADE CERTAIN WHEN NOT DO ANYOF THE WORK . THAT'S JUST MY THOUGHTS.

>> I WANT YOUR QUESTION TO BE ANSWERED BUT I DO WANT THE BOARD TO SAY DO YOU WANT TO GO TO A 30 5 PM OR DO YOU WANT TO STOP? 8:35 PM, OKAY.

SO, TRUSTEE CLEWIS HAS A QUESTION.

>> I AM STILL NOT CLEAR THE REQUEST VERSUS THE NUMBER OF PAGES OR IS THAT SOMETHING MR. HANLIN WILL BRING BACK.

>> HE IS GOING TO GIVE US SOME EXAMPLES.

>> I WILL WRITE A LINE FOR EACH ONE. YOU CAN SAY LET'S DO THE HOURS

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FOR THE DOLLARS OR WHATEVER. SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION. SO I UNDERSTAND MR. SMITH DOLLARS THE ONLY THING WAS ALWAYS IS BASED ON WHERE THE INFORMATION IS COMING FROM BASED OF THE PERSON'S SALARY THAT'S GIVEN INFORMATION, CORRECT? SO THAT THEY WILL BE LITTLE DIFFERENT. SO I THINK TIME WOULD PROBABLY BE MORE BENEFICIAL THAN DOLLAR COST IT WOULD TAKE TO PRODUCE THE REQUEST.

>> I AM COMPENSATING AND THINKING ABOUT THAT THERE IS A SET PRICE FOR COFFEE SO FOR NOW WILL IF IT IS A COPY IF IT IS RESEARCH SO IS IT GOING TO BE BASED ON THAT SALARY OR SEQUENTIALLY BASED ON THE REQUEST?

>> WE UNDERSTAND IT SEE DOCTOR BARKER DOES SOMETHING SOMEONE HAS A LOWER SALARY IT WOULD COST MORE THAN THE PERSON.

>> THAT SHOULD BE REFLECTED.

>> THAT'S WAS THE DOLLAR PART MIGHT BE DIFFERENT.OU DON'T KNOW IS CHEMICAL THIS DEPARTMENT OR THIS DEPARTMENT I THINK IS JUST THE TIME SPENT OF AN EMPLOYEE.

>> I UNDERSTAND THAT BUT I GUARANTEE THAT THE SECRETARY SHE'S CAPACITY ALL I WOULDN'T KNOW BUT THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING WHEN HE BRINGS IT BACK HOWEVER GOING TO LOOK AT SALARY VERSUS IF THERE'S HARDCOPIES.

>> CLARIFYING AS A REP WEIGHTS TO REQUEST FOR INFORMATION. THIS IS NOT RELATED TO THE BOARD QUESTIONS BECAUSE OF THE GULF WRAP UP A LOT OF MY, OKAY, THAT'S OUTSIDE THE SCOPE.

>> WE CAN ARTICULATE THAT. IF THAT MAKES YOU MORE COMFORTABLE.

>> IT IS A 30 5 PM AND WE ARE AT PAGE 7. THE 2:35 PM ---- SO DO YOU ALL WANT TO STOP HERE?

>> I RECOMMEND WE GO AHEAD AND STOP AND SEND ANY QUESTIONS TO YOU AS IT PERTAINS TO ANY ITEM AND YOU CAN FORWARD THOSE ACCORDINGLY.

>> I WOULD SAY PLEASE IF YOU FORWARDED TO ME AND I WILL FORWARD THEM TO BOARD PRESIDENT AND FORWARD THEM TO THE ATTORNEY SO HE WILL BE PROVIDED WITH CONCERNS FROM OUR BOARD PRESIDENT AND FROM THE SHIP. HOW WOULD THE BOARD LIKE TO PROCEED? SO WE WON'T HAVE ANY MISUNDERSTANDING ABOUT THIS MEETING.

WOULD YOU ALL LIKE FOR THIS TO BE FINALIZED FOR THE APRIL MEETING OR FINALIZED FOR OUR MAY MEETING? IF WE GOT THROUGH SEVEN PAGES NOW YOU ALL WE COULD REALLY FINISH THIS BECAUSE EVERYBODY HAS BEEN VERY COOPERATIVE AND I APPRECIATE THAT.

>> MADAM CHAIR, WE HAVE GONE THROUGH X PAGE 8 THE PROCESS FOR SELECTING BOARD MEMBERS.

>> WE GOT TO PAGE 8? I'M READING IT WRONG. YOU ALL, THAT IS AWESOME, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO PROCEED? HAVE ANOTHER MEETING BECAUSE WE CAN WIPE IT OUT WE PROBABLY COULD WORK THIS OUT ANOTHER 30 MINUTES IN ANOTHER MEETING?

>> MR. JONES COMMENT WAS FOR US TO REVIEW THE REST OF THE PAGES AND SENT COMMENTS TO YOU TO FORWARD TO THE ATTORNEY. AND THEN WE WILL COME BACK AND LOOK THROUGH THEM.

WE PROBABLY ADDED TO THE BOARD MEETING.

>> RIGHT, I DON'T WANT TO LEAVE THIS PART WITHOUT ACTUALLY HAVING AN IDEA WHEN WE ARE GOING TO COME BACK AND FINISH IT ALL BUT MEANWHILE THAT'S WHAT I SAID DO WE WANT TO HAVE IT READY FOR AN APRIL MEETING OR HAVE IT READY FOR A MAY MEETING WHICH IS A MAY MEETING THAT WE HAVE TIME TO PUT IT IN REVIEW AND THEN ADD TO IT.

>> MADAM CHAIR, THAT DEPENDS ON HOW MANY RESPONSES YOU GET AND HOW LONG IT WOULD TAKE MR. HANLIN.

>> MAY MEETING SO PRESIDENT YOU WILL SEND IT TO ME TO LEAVE IT TO ME TO ASK FOR TIME TO

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DISCUSS THE REMAINING PAGES WHICH WILL BE NINE, 10 AND 11. 9-12.

IS THAT WHAT YOU ALL ARE GOING TO DO? I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO GET SOME FEEDBACK SO IT WON'T BE A SURPRISE IF I SAY.

>> WE WILL ANTICIPATE MAY.

>> NO, MAY 2 FINALIZED SO WE WILL NEED A MEETING. OUR NEXT BOARD MEETING.

>> SO WILL NOT HAVE ANOTHER CALL MEETING. BECAUSE WILL BE ANOTHER DISCUSSION LIKE THIS. AND IF YOU HAVE ANY CONCERNS IF YOU ALL REVIEW THE REMAINING PAGES YOU WANT TO SEND ANY COMMENTS ON THAT IS FEEL. TO DO THAT, AS WELL.

THANK YOU ALL FOR THE BOARD REVIEWS. DOCTOR PERERA IS THERE A NEED FOR CLOSED SESSION?NO NEED FOR CLOSED SESSION SO NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS OUR GERMAN IS THERE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND

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